Charles Huber

They, again, test Kathy's evidence. They compare it directly to Bruce Lindahl's DNA that they have at that time. But unfortunately, our samples at that point are too degraded to get a workable profile.

They, again, test Kathy's evidence. They compare it directly to Bruce Lindahl's DNA that they have at that time. But unfortunately, our samples at that point are too degraded to get a workable profile.

So at that point, the case, you know, for lack of a better term, it doesn't go cold, but it's kind of we're back right where we started of, well, we at least know there's a male there. But, you know, was it the boyfriend or was it the guy who killed her? You know, we don't have any idea who it could be at that point. So it's just kind of we're back at square one.

So at that point, the case, you know, for lack of a better term, it doesn't go cold, but it's kind of we're back right where we started of, well, we at least know there's a male there. But, you know, was it the boyfriend or was it the guy who killed her? You know, we don't have any idea who it could be at that point. So it's just kind of we're back at square one.

The family sees the documentary and they're like, hey, what the heck? Why are they saying that Bruce Lindahl killed our daughter or our sister? And we're like, we have zero evidence to prove that.

The family sees the documentary and they're like, hey, what the heck? Why are they saying that Bruce Lindahl killed our daughter or our sister? And we're like, we have zero evidence to prove that.

One of the instructors there was Orland Park Deputy Chief Larry Rafferty, and his block of information that he presents in the class is all about Mvac technology, which is this new DNA technology that allows degraded and minuscule samples to kind of get the best possible profile based off of these filters that this Mvac uses.

One of the instructors there was Orland Park Deputy Chief Larry Rafferty, and his block of information that he presents in the class is all about Mvac technology, which is this new DNA technology that allows degraded and minuscule samples to kind of get the best possible profile based off of these filters that this Mvac uses.

So the smallest particle... of skin or whatever is being vacuumed up with that solution and collected in these filters. The filters are then tested and they were able to build better profiles off of degraded DNA because you're getting every last scrap of it pulled out of the evidence.

So the smallest particle... of skin or whatever is being vacuumed up with that solution and collected in these filters. The filters are then tested and they were able to build better profiles off of degraded DNA because you're getting every last scrap of it pulled out of the evidence.

This is one of the leading labs in the nation and the world, and this is their specialty, is working on these cold cases and using the NVEC to solve these types of cases. And that's how I got hooked up with DNA Labs.

This is one of the leading labs in the nation and the world, and this is their specialty, is working on these cold cases and using the NVEC to solve these types of cases. And that's how I got hooked up with DNA Labs.

For us to find a workable profile is going to be tough because of those situations. Kathy, from all we can tell, sat in running water in the Fox River for three weeks. You know, so at that point, we're like, any DNA or anything's going to be washed away, or so we thought.

For us to find a workable profile is going to be tough because of those situations. Kathy, from all we can tell, sat in running water in the Fox River for three weeks. You know, so at that point, we're like, any DNA or anything's going to be washed away, or so we thought.

Yeah, this is our Hail Mary. Who knows what is going to be down the road 10 years from now, but this was, for our time and space right now, this was our shot to try to close this case.

Yeah, this is our Hail Mary. Who knows what is going to be down the road 10 years from now, but this was, for our time and space right now, this was our shot to try to close this case.

And we came up with a plan that was like, let's start with the underwear, the tampon string and the main areas that we want to focus on. Let's test those first. And that got our price down to about, I believe, around $9,000.

And we came up with a plan that was like, let's start with the underwear, the tampon string and the main areas that we want to focus on. Let's test those first. And that got our price down to about, I believe, around $9,000.

Season of Justice is a nonprofit organization that basically provides grants for laboratories to do DNA research on these cold cases.

Season of Justice is a nonprofit organization that basically provides grants for laboratories to do DNA research on these cold cases.