Clarence Jones

some of these kids had severe mental health issues. And well these years, it has stuck with me how any of us can be affected so dramatically by mental health issues. So let's get the show going here by saying, all right, can you give us kind of Mike, the gestalt of all the clinical aspects or the clinical diagnoses of mental health that certainly you've seen in your career?

some of these kids had severe mental health issues. And well these years, it has stuck with me how any of us can be affected so dramatically by mental health issues. So let's get the show going here by saying, all right, can you give us kind of Mike, the gestalt of all the clinical aspects or the clinical diagnoses of mental health that certainly you've seen in your career?

So is it true that, that it just seems to me that today we hear more about anxiety and depression more than maybe some of the other clinical manifestations of mental health that I heard about for sure over the years. Is that a fair statement?

So is it true that, that it just seems to me that today we hear more about anxiety and depression more than maybe some of the other clinical manifestations of mental health that I heard about for sure over the years. Is that a fair statement?

Um, so let me, you know, it seems like there's like these components, um, let's talk about, um, your, your experience with, um, mental health hospitalizations or mental health therapy or, and, or mental health, um, uh, medication. Okay. Um, Can you kind of talk about those three a little bit? Are we seeing more people, for instance, being hospitalized today than we did yesterday?

Um, so let me, you know, it seems like there's like these components, um, let's talk about, um, your, your experience with, um, mental health hospitalizations or mental health therapy or, and, or mental health, um, uh, medication. Okay. Um, Can you kind of talk about those three a little bit? Are we seeing more people, for instance, being hospitalized today than we did yesterday?

Are we seeing more people today being in therapy per se than we did yesterday? Put it in kind of a perspective for us a little bit.

Are we seeing more people today being in therapy per se than we did yesterday? Put it in kind of a perspective for us a little bit.

So it's interesting, you know, one of our last shows, actually, I think it was after our first show with you, we had Dr. Jeff Louie, who is an emergency room physician. And we talked at length about. You know, kids, because he's a pediatric ER specialist, kids showing up in ERs with mental health issues and they're just dropped off there and left there.

So it's interesting, you know, one of our last shows, actually, I think it was after our first show with you, we had Dr. Jeff Louie, who is an emergency room physician. And we talked at length about. You know, kids, because he's a pediatric ER specialist, kids showing up in ERs with mental health issues and they're just dropped off there and left there.

And then the ERs become holding tanks for these kids that have mental health issues and they have nowhere to put them. And so there's policy implications for this, and it's being addressed at the state legislature as we speak. Clarence, you got a question?

And then the ERs become holding tanks for these kids that have mental health issues and they have nowhere to put them. And so there's policy implications for this, and it's being addressed at the state legislature as we speak. Clarence, you got a question?

So let me, there's a couple of things I want to, you know, kind of touch on a little bit historically, then also where we are today. Like I remember, and you know, perhaps you do too, Mike, where shock therapy. was used. So comment on that.

So let me, there's a couple of things I want to, you know, kind of touch on a little bit historically, then also where we are today. Like I remember, and you know, perhaps you do too, Mike, where shock therapy. was used. So comment on that.

Okay.

Okay.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So let me give you a couple of things here. And I want you to react to a panic attack. So I can, I can, I'll relate one specific. I had a panic attack when I had a detached retina in my eye. Okay. And to the point where I felt as though I couldn't breathe. Okay. It was that bad. So I bring that up as it relates to mental health, acute conditions and more chronic conditions.

So let me give you a couple of things here. And I want you to react to a panic attack. So I can, I can, I'll relate one specific. I had a panic attack when I had a detached retina in my eye. Okay. And to the point where I felt as though I couldn't breathe. Okay. It was that bad. So I bring that up as it relates to mental health, acute conditions and more chronic conditions.