Clifford Ismay
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Bruce was among the last passengers to be taken aboard. Once he was aboard, he kind of stood with his back to the bulkhead of the ship. One of the stewards came and offered him some soup. And he just kept saying, I'd rather not, I'd rather not. He offered him some hot tea, just the same as he did with all the other passengers. And all Bruce could say was, I'd rather not.
Bruce was among the last passengers to be taken aboard. Once he was aboard, he kind of stood with his back to the bulkhead of the ship. One of the stewards came and offered him some soup. And he just kept saying, I'd rather not, I'd rather not. He offered him some hot tea, just the same as he did with all the other passengers. And all Bruce could say was, I'd rather not.
And he was just staring into the water. Obviously, Titanic was long gone then. And we were just staring out at the water, probably thinking about all those lives that had been lost. And I think at that point, that's when the PTSD was first hitting him. The Carpathians doctor was walking around everyone, and I think he realized with Bruce that there was something serious going on here.
And he was just staring into the water. Obviously, Titanic was long gone then. And we were just staring out at the water, probably thinking about all those lives that had been lost. And I think at that point, that's when the PTSD was first hitting him. The Carpathians doctor was walking around everyone, and I think he realized with Bruce that there was something serious going on here.
So the doctor took Bruce back to his own private cabin, which also doubled up as a surgery, and Bruce spent the rest of the voyage in that cabin.
So the doctor took Bruce back to his own private cabin, which also doubled up as a surgery, and Bruce spent the rest of the voyage in that cabin.
Jack Thayer was taken to the cabin by the doctor in the hope that Thayer would be able to bring Bruce back into the world, as it were, because Thayer and Bruce were acquainted. But even young Jack Thayer, he couldn't get anything out of Bruce at all.
Jack Thayer was taken to the cabin by the doctor in the hope that Thayer would be able to bring Bruce back into the world, as it were, because Thayer and Bruce were acquainted. But even young Jack Thayer, he couldn't get anything out of Bruce at all.
You could say the chairman of the White Star Line had the luxury and warmth of the doctor's cabin while the other passengers were on the deck. And I'm sure many of the passengers would have been in the same situation. And I think it was probably the fact that the doctor had realized that Bruce was the chairman of the White Star Line that brought his attention to Bruce's condition.
You could say the chairman of the White Star Line had the luxury and warmth of the doctor's cabin while the other passengers were on the deck. And I'm sure many of the passengers would have been in the same situation. And I think it was probably the fact that the doctor had realized that Bruce was the chairman of the White Star Line that brought his attention to Bruce's condition.
However, he did end up in the doctor's cabin where he was given opioids to calm him down, and he just sat there staring."
However, he did end up in the doctor's cabin where he was given opioids to calm him down, and he just sat there staring."
Again, what if? What if they added more watertight compartments? What if they had more lifeboats? What if anything? And I think he was probably very troubled by the fact that he survived when he realized that there were still women and children on board the Titanic when she went down. He probably did have to survive his guilt over that.
Again, what if? What if they added more watertight compartments? What if they had more lifeboats? What if anything? And I think he was probably very troubled by the fact that he survived when he realized that there were still women and children on board the Titanic when she went down. He probably did have to survive his guilt over that.
I mean, how do you live with something like that? Realizing that you had escaped the Titanic when afterwards you'd learned women and children had still been on board.
I mean, how do you live with something like that? Realizing that you had escaped the Titanic when afterwards you'd learned women and children had still been on board.
I didn't really know much about the Titanic until I was about eight or nine years old. I was in the sitting room with my father and there was this movie about the Titanic came on TV, black and white. It wasn't in those days, of course. And I saw at the end this scene of this cowardly-looking gentleman very, very sheepishly climbing into a lifeboat, hoping not to be seen.
I didn't really know much about the Titanic until I was about eight or nine years old. I was in the sitting room with my father and there was this movie about the Titanic came on TV, black and white. It wasn't in those days, of course. And I saw at the end this scene of this cowardly-looking gentleman very, very sheepishly climbing into a lifeboat, hoping not to be seen.
And I thought, what's happened to my relative? Did he really do that? It's difficult to know what was going on in Bruce's mind. He wasn't in a state of deep depression. I wonder if he ever had any suicidal tendencies.
And I thought, what's happened to my relative? Did he really do that? It's difficult to know what was going on in Bruce's mind. He wasn't in a state of deep depression. I wonder if he ever had any suicidal tendencies.