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What hurt me was my coaches sucked. They kind of sucked. And I wasn't being showcased or anything like that, but it weirdly helped me because when it was time to get to the NFL, there was no history on me. So there was no like, oh, you know, you had these injuries and this and this. You didn't do this versus this. Nobody scouted me.

What hurt me was my coaches sucked. They kind of sucked. And I wasn't being showcased or anything like that, but it weirdly helped me because when it was time to get to the NFL, there was no history on me. So there was no like, oh, you know, you had these injuries and this and this. You didn't do this versus this. Nobody scouted me.

So it was a blank slate, which helped me actually get my opportunity. That's very weird. Right. But that is the truth.

So it was a blank slate, which helped me actually get my opportunity. That's very weird. Right. But that is the truth.

You already started it. It's the truth. How about Mike Patton? I'm sorry. Said that he sucked. You know, it was very much like... I did everything I was supposed to do. I worked my butt off and you know, you feel crazy.

You already started it. It's the truth. How about Mike Patton? I'm sorry. Said that he sucked. You know, it was very much like... I did everything I was supposed to do. I worked my butt off and you know, you feel crazy.

This is why I'm so like, you feel crazy when you go through something and you have a confidence about yourself and you work at it and you feel like, man, I feel like I'm good, but everything around me says otherwise. So then when life happens and you were the one who was effing right,

This is why I'm so like, you feel crazy when you go through something and you have a confidence about yourself and you work at it and you feel like, man, I feel like I'm good, but everything around me says otherwise. So then when life happens and you were the one who was effing right,

Then, yeah, I don't give those people a pass because I felt like a lunatic at that time that I could play in the NFL. And they told me I was a lunatic and people told me I was crazy. And then I'm here and it's like, oh, you persevered. It's like kiss my ass. All right. Because those were hard years. So, no, I don't give those guys a pass because I knew what it was then.

Then, yeah, I don't give those people a pass because I felt like a lunatic at that time that I could play in the NFL. And they told me I was a lunatic and people told me I was crazy. And then I'm here and it's like, oh, you persevered. It's like kiss my ass. All right. Because those were hard years. So, no, I don't give those guys a pass because I knew what it was then.

And I felt like they knew, too. But yet I had to go the track that I had.

And I felt like they knew, too. But yet I had to go the track that I had.

I like Pettin. Pettin was a good dude.

I like Pettin. Pettin was a good dude.

No. He was a defensive coach, and he was more focused there. We had Kyle Shanahan. You had Kyle and Mike McDaniels. Who was like, yeah, we're running the offense. And Pettin was like, all right, cool. There's that viral clip of him suggesting an offensive play one time, and Kyle looks at him like... Why are you talking to me? That was kind of what it was with Petten.

No. He was a defensive coach, and he was more focused there. We had Kyle Shanahan. You had Kyle and Mike McDaniels. Who was like, yeah, we're running the offense. And Pettin was like, all right, cool. There's that viral clip of him suggesting an offensive play one time, and Kyle looks at him like... Why are you talking to me? That was kind of what it was with Petten.

Petten was a great guy, great coach, more on the defense than the offensive side. I enjoyed Petten. We weren't very successful. We worked for like 10 games. We went 7-4, which was significant in Cleveland.

Petten was a great guy, great coach, more on the defense than the offensive side. I enjoyed Petten. We weren't very successful. We worked for like 10 games. We went 7-4, which was significant in Cleveland.

Then we put in Johnny and, you know, we made a documentary.

Then we put in Johnny and, you know, we made a documentary.