Dallas Jenkins

But when you start to bring your own analysis to it, now we're treading on thin ice, and that's for the realm of pastors to provide commentary, not for Dallas Jenkins to tell his own story.

But when you start to bring your own analysis to it, now we're treading on thin ice, and that's for the realm of pastors to provide commentary, not for Dallas Jenkins to tell his own story.

So you look at a movie like The Last Temptation of Christ from Martin Scorsese's exploration of things, and most Christians were horrified to imply—I mean, Scorsese was exploring Jesus as humanity, and it went too far, right?

So you look at a movie like The Last Temptation of Christ from Martin Scorsese's exploration of things, and most Christians were horrified to imply—I mean, Scorsese was exploring Jesus as humanity, and it went too far, right?

So you look at a movie like The Last Temptation of Christ from Martin Scorsese's exploration of things, and most Christians were horrified to imply—I mean, Scorsese was exploring Jesus as humanity, and it went too far, right?

But then it's put in the hands of a— struggling Catholic... Right, right, right. ...who has made movies that most Christians would never even dare to see. But, of course, if you look closely, you can see a spiritual beauty in Taxi Driver and in Raging Bull and some other things.

But then it's put in the hands of a— struggling Catholic... Right, right, right. ...who has made movies that most Christians would never even dare to see. But, of course, if you look closely, you can see a spiritual beauty in Taxi Driver and in Raging Bull and some other things.

But then it's put in the hands of a— struggling Catholic... Right, right, right. ...who has made movies that most Christians would never even dare to see. But, of course, if you look closely, you can see a spiritual beauty in Taxi Driver and in Raging Bull and some other things.

But it's a little too... Risqué, you might say.

But it's a little too... Risqué, you might say.

But it's a little too... Risqué, you might say.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So... So... I became comfortable with that as an evangelical, and my church was comfortable with it. Not only comfortable— Why? Well, because it felt so plausible, and yet it was rooted in a fidelity to Scripture, meaning it wasn't made by someone who doubts it.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So... So... I became comfortable with that as an evangelical, and my church was comfortable with it. Not only comfortable— Why? Well, because it felt so plausible, and yet it was rooted in a fidelity to Scripture, meaning it wasn't made by someone who doubts it.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So... So... I became comfortable with that as an evangelical, and my church was comfortable with it. Not only comfortable— Why? Well, because it felt so plausible, and yet it was rooted in a fidelity to Scripture, meaning it wasn't made by someone who doubts it.

You know, you look at the movie Noah from Darren Aronofsky where many Christians were offended by that because he was exploring the story of Noah as an environmentalist manifesto of sorts. And Ridley Scott doing the Exodus story about Moses and he's clearly not a believer. Right. And so that was clear.

You know, you look at the movie Noah from Darren Aronofsky where many Christians were offended by that because he was exploring the story of Noah as an environmentalist manifesto of sorts. And Ridley Scott doing the Exodus story about Moses and he's clearly not a believer. Right. And so that was clear.

You know, you look at the movie Noah from Darren Aronofsky where many Christians were offended by that because he was exploring the story of Noah as an environmentalist manifesto of sorts. And Ridley Scott doing the Exodus story about Moses and he's clearly not a believer. Right. And so that was clear.

Correct, but when it's in the hands of someone like myself who is a believer and who has been raised and trained in fidelity to Scripture and loves it. So my artistic imagination has some boundaries to it that I'm happy to— See, this is what Jonathan Paggio has done on the iconography side, right?

Correct, but when it's in the hands of someone like myself who is a believer and who has been raised and trained in fidelity to Scripture and loves it. So my artistic imagination has some boundaries to it that I'm happy to— See, this is what Jonathan Paggio has done on the iconography side, right?

Correct, but when it's in the hands of someone like myself who is a believer and who has been raised and trained in fidelity to Scripture and loves it. So my artistic imagination has some boundaries to it that I'm happy to— See, this is what Jonathan Paggio has done on the iconography side, right?