Daniel Dines

yes we we had the rocky ride into the public markets and probably in 2021 we were to what extent was that avoidable versus unavoidable i think if i do a second ipo i would be better equipped what would you do differently if you did a second ipo i would look into into finance and go to market a bit differently what does that mean sorry go into finance and go to market differently

You can plan maybe a bit less aggressively, but more consistently. I think it's better to plan and execute a growth of 30% year over year rather than 80%, 60%, 30%, 20%, 10%. Because in a way, doing such a huge aggressive growth makes you maybe sometimes steal from the future. Not knowingly, but you discover in time. An organic growth in a public market, it's better rewarded.

You can plan maybe a bit less aggressively, but more consistently. I think it's better to plan and execute a growth of 30% year over year rather than 80%, 60%, 30%, 20%, 10%. Because in a way, doing such a huge aggressive growth makes you maybe sometimes steal from the future. Not knowingly, but you discover in time. An organic growth in a public market, it's better rewarded.

You can plan maybe a bit less aggressively, but more consistently. I think it's better to plan and execute a growth of 30% year over year rather than 80%, 60%, 30%, 20%, 10%. Because in a way, doing such a huge aggressive growth makes you maybe sometimes steal from the future. Not knowingly, but you discover in time. An organic growth in a public market, it's better rewarded.

There are stages where founders mode work better. When I hired Rob, he's actually a great guy. But when I hired him, I didn't realize that we were still at the stage where founder mode is essential. I thought we are at the stage where we are more established and we need an experience that is stage appropriated for something bigger than us.

There are stages where founders mode work better. When I hired Rob, he's actually a great guy. But when I hired him, I didn't realize that we were still at the stage where founder mode is essential. I thought we are at the stage where we are more established and we need an experience that is stage appropriated for something bigger than us.

There are stages where founders mode work better. When I hired Rob, he's actually a great guy. But when I hired him, I didn't realize that we were still at the stage where founder mode is essential. I thought we are at the stage where we are more established and we need an experience that is stage appropriated for something bigger than us.

Yeah, but Larry and Senge didn't get back to the CEO job. No, but they've come back. Actually, I never left the company. I ran product and engineering directly while Rob was co-CEO and CEO. I almost think that's harder with respect to you.

Yeah, but Larry and Senge didn't get back to the CEO job. No, but they've come back. Actually, I never left the company. I ran product and engineering directly while Rob was co-CEO and CEO. I almost think that's harder with respect to you.

Yeah, but Larry and Senge didn't get back to the CEO job. No, but they've come back. Actually, I never left the company. I ran product and engineering directly while Rob was co-CEO and CEO. I almost think that's harder with respect to you.

In many ways, it's hard. It's hard. I know it's a bit of a dance. Maybe I didn't speak enough to him. He didn't speak enough to me. And it could have been probably better. I agree. It's in a time when there is such a huge change in technology.

In many ways, it's hard. It's hard. I know it's a bit of a dance. Maybe I didn't speak enough to him. He didn't speak enough to me. And it could have been probably better. I agree. It's in a time when there is such a huge change in technology.

In many ways, it's hard. It's hard. I know it's a bit of a dance. Maybe I didn't speak enough to him. He didn't speak enough to me. And it could have been probably better. I agree. It's in a time when there is such a huge change in technology.

Look, my way is to speak really transparent to the teams. This is where we are, guys. It's a lot of work ahead of us. We made these mistakes. We have to fix these things. It's not easy. It's going to require a serious, serious work. And maybe that's not a way to energize them, but it's a way to make them hurt.

Look, my way is to speak really transparent to the teams. This is where we are, guys. It's a lot of work ahead of us. We made these mistakes. We have to fix these things. It's not easy. It's going to require a serious, serious work. And maybe that's not a way to energize them, but it's a way to make them hurt.

Look, my way is to speak really transparent to the teams. This is where we are, guys. It's a lot of work ahead of us. We made these mistakes. We have to fix these things. It's not easy. It's going to require a serious, serious work. And maybe that's not a way to energize them, but it's a way to make them hurt.

I think one of the things that, as you grow bigger, is that people feel smaller and smaller. I don't want, this is hard. I want to work in a company where people have joy. People feel that they are empowered to do things.

I think one of the things that, as you grow bigger, is that people feel smaller and smaller. I don't want, this is hard. I want to work in a company where people have joy. People feel that they are empowered to do things.

I think one of the things that, as you grow bigger, is that people feel smaller and smaller. I don't want, this is hard. I want to work in a company where people have joy. People feel that they are empowered to do things.

not in the alignment but it's very important that if you want to make a big change go and drive a big change and have the voice to fight for it if you are shut down then it affects the moral more than the stock price i think how do you actually do that though you say hey go take big bets i support you Yeah, we are trying to reduce bureaucracy.