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Daniel Dines

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
396 total appearances

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The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: UiPath's Daniel Dines on Why Agents Do Not Mean RPA is F***** | Why We Have Reached the Upper End of Scaling Laws | The Future of Work in an Agent World and What Everyone Misunderstands About Enterprise AI

Because at this point, that's basically the best model for this particular job. We might change it. This is why I think the experience around the product will be so important. Because we do a lot, it's very difficult to use that model without the entire product experience, without helping people tagging documents and retraining the model on the fly.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: UiPath's Daniel Dines on Why Agents Do Not Mean RPA is F***** | Why We Have Reached the Upper End of Scaling Laws | The Future of Work in an Agent World and What Everyone Misunderstands About Enterprise AI

Because at this point, that's basically the best model for this particular job. We might change it. This is why I think the experience around the product will be so important. Because we do a lot, it's very difficult to use that model without the entire product experience, without helping people tagging documents and retraining the model on the fly.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: UiPath's Daniel Dines on Why Agents Do Not Mean RPA is F***** | Why We Have Reached the Upper End of Scaling Laws | The Future of Work in an Agent World and What Everyone Misunderstands About Enterprise AI

Because at this point, that's basically the best model for this particular job. We might change it. This is why I think the experience around the product will be so important. Because we do a lot, it's very difficult to use that model without the entire product experience, without helping people tagging documents and retraining the model on the fly.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: UiPath's Daniel Dines on Why Agents Do Not Mean RPA is F***** | Why We Have Reached the Upper End of Scaling Laws | The Future of Work in an Agent World and What Everyone Misunderstands About Enterprise AI

So it's an entire experience that we make it extremely simple, and we can exchange the model. If we find another model, maybe LAMA 3.3 is better. And it's always a cost versus speed and versus accuracy equation that we have to consider.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: UiPath's Daniel Dines on Why Agents Do Not Mean RPA is F***** | Why We Have Reached the Upper End of Scaling Laws | The Future of Work in an Agent World and What Everyone Misunderstands About Enterprise AI

So it's an entire experience that we make it extremely simple, and we can exchange the model. If we find another model, maybe LAMA 3.3 is better. And it's always a cost versus speed and versus accuracy equation that we have to consider.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: UiPath's Daniel Dines on Why Agents Do Not Mean RPA is F***** | Why We Have Reached the Upper End of Scaling Laws | The Future of Work in an Agent World and What Everyone Misunderstands About Enterprise AI

So it's an entire experience that we make it extremely simple, and we can exchange the model. If we find another model, maybe LAMA 3.3 is better. And it's always a cost versus speed and versus accuracy equation that we have to consider.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: UiPath's Daniel Dines on Why Agents Do Not Mean RPA is F***** | Why We Have Reached the Upper End of Scaling Laws | The Future of Work in an Agent World and What Everyone Misunderstands About Enterprise AI

I don't think models would measure the cloud development. I think there will be multiple models. Even if we look at the human brain development, we have multiple models. We have some general cognitive models, but we have a lot of specialized models that would do some tasks better than using my general model.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: UiPath's Daniel Dines on Why Agents Do Not Mean RPA is F***** | Why We Have Reached the Upper End of Scaling Laws | The Future of Work in an Agent World and What Everyone Misunderstands About Enterprise AI

I don't think models would measure the cloud development. I think there will be multiple models. Even if we look at the human brain development, we have multiple models. We have some general cognitive models, but we have a lot of specialized models that would do some tasks better than using my general model.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: UiPath's Daniel Dines on Why Agents Do Not Mean RPA is F***** | Why We Have Reached the Upper End of Scaling Laws | The Future of Work in an Agent World and What Everyone Misunderstands About Enterprise AI

I don't think models would measure the cloud development. I think there will be multiple models. Even if we look at the human brain development, we have multiple models. We have some general cognitive models, but we have a lot of specialized models that would do some tasks better than using my general model.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: UiPath's Daniel Dines on Why Agents Do Not Mean RPA is F***** | Why We Have Reached the Upper End of Scaling Laws | The Future of Work in an Agent World and What Everyone Misunderstands About Enterprise AI

One of the most difficult tasks to replicate today is to take this cup and drink out of it. I am doing, it's just perfect how I do it. But that's a dedicated model that we are training since we are very young. We train how to work. I don't think in how to work, so it's a dedicated model. So obviously there will be a world of few frontier models and a lot of dedicated models.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: UiPath's Daniel Dines on Why Agents Do Not Mean RPA is F***** | Why We Have Reached the Upper End of Scaling Laws | The Future of Work in an Agent World and What Everyone Misunderstands About Enterprise AI

One of the most difficult tasks to replicate today is to take this cup and drink out of it. I am doing, it's just perfect how I do it. But that's a dedicated model that we are training since we are very young. We train how to work. I don't think in how to work, so it's a dedicated model. So obviously there will be a world of few frontier models and a lot of dedicated models.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: UiPath's Daniel Dines on Why Agents Do Not Mean RPA is F***** | Why We Have Reached the Upper End of Scaling Laws | The Future of Work in an Agent World and What Everyone Misunderstands About Enterprise AI

One of the most difficult tasks to replicate today is to take this cup and drink out of it. I am doing, it's just perfect how I do it. But that's a dedicated model that we are training since we are very young. We train how to work. I don't think in how to work, so it's a dedicated model. So obviously there will be a world of few frontier models and a lot of dedicated models.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: UiPath's Daniel Dines on Why Agents Do Not Mean RPA is F***** | Why We Have Reached the Upper End of Scaling Laws | The Future of Work in an Agent World and What Everyone Misunderstands About Enterprise AI

And dedicated models will be built on the top of, I think is more likely to be built on the top of open source models, that closed source frontier models.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: UiPath's Daniel Dines on Why Agents Do Not Mean RPA is F***** | Why We Have Reached the Upper End of Scaling Laws | The Future of Work in an Agent World and What Everyone Misunderstands About Enterprise AI

And dedicated models will be built on the top of, I think is more likely to be built on the top of open source models, that closed source frontier models.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: UiPath's Daniel Dines on Why Agents Do Not Mean RPA is F***** | Why We Have Reached the Upper End of Scaling Laws | The Future of Work in an Agent World and What Everyone Misunderstands About Enterprise AI

And dedicated models will be built on the top of, I think is more likely to be built on the top of open source models, that closed source frontier models.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: UiPath's Daniel Dines on Why Agents Do Not Mean RPA is F***** | Why We Have Reached the Upper End of Scaling Laws | The Future of Work in an Agent World and What Everyone Misunderstands About Enterprise AI

It has a big impact. It's a very big shift that we have actually made in the company in the way we've built software. It's not enough to think building incremental. Cursor was built from ground up, really, and in an AI world. It was an AI-first product. This is how we should build. So we are building our agentic AI approach from the ground up.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: UiPath's Daniel Dines on Why Agents Do Not Mean RPA is F***** | Why We Have Reached the Upper End of Scaling Laws | The Future of Work in an Agent World and What Everyone Misunderstands About Enterprise AI

It has a big impact. It's a very big shift that we have actually made in the company in the way we've built software. It's not enough to think building incremental. Cursor was built from ground up, really, and in an AI world. It was an AI-first product. This is how we should build. So we are building our agentic AI approach from the ground up.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: UiPath's Daniel Dines on Why Agents Do Not Mean RPA is F***** | Why We Have Reached the Upper End of Scaling Laws | The Future of Work in an Agent World and What Everyone Misunderstands About Enterprise AI

It has a big impact. It's a very big shift that we have actually made in the company in the way we've built software. It's not enough to think building incremental. Cursor was built from ground up, really, and in an AI world. It was an AI-first product. This is how we should build. So we are building our agentic AI approach from the ground up.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: UiPath's Daniel Dines on Why Agents Do Not Mean RPA is F***** | Why We Have Reached the Upper End of Scaling Laws | The Future of Work in an Agent World and What Everyone Misunderstands About Enterprise AI

We gave up on some of our RPA stuff in order to come on the new technology, new frameworks, building from scratch, because we want to build an AI-first experience.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: UiPath's Daniel Dines on Why Agents Do Not Mean RPA is F***** | Why We Have Reached the Upper End of Scaling Laws | The Future of Work in an Agent World and What Everyone Misunderstands About Enterprise AI

We gave up on some of our RPA stuff in order to come on the new technology, new frameworks, building from scratch, because we want to build an AI-first experience.