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Dave Fleming

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Pablo Torre Finds Out
Watching the Dallas Cowboys on Death Row: Our Visit to a Supermax Prison

It was a ritual. Go to church, come home, gather around the TV, root on the Cowboys.

Pablo Torre Finds Out
Watching the Dallas Cowboys on Death Row: Our Visit to a Supermax Prison

That deep connection to the Cowboys, it sort of, it continued once Charles was put on death row.

Pablo Torre Finds Out
Watching the Dallas Cowboys on Death Row: Our Visit to a Supermax Prison

That deep connection to the Cowboys, it sort of, it continued once Charles was put on death row.

Pablo Torre Finds Out
Watching the Dallas Cowboys on Death Row: Our Visit to a Supermax Prison

That deep connection to the Cowboys, it sort of, it continued once Charles was put on death row.

Pablo Torre Finds Out
Watching the Dallas Cowboys on Death Row: Our Visit to a Supermax Prison

It gets sadder because he's been there so long now. Both his parents, that ritual is gone now because both of his parents have passed away. And as you listen to Charles, you understand that with his parents gone, that's just made sports all the more important to Charles and his survival on death row.

Pablo Torre Finds Out
Watching the Dallas Cowboys on Death Row: Our Visit to a Supermax Prison

It gets sadder because he's been there so long now. Both his parents, that ritual is gone now because both of his parents have passed away. And as you listen to Charles, you understand that with his parents gone, that's just made sports all the more important to Charles and his survival on death row.

Pablo Torre Finds Out
Watching the Dallas Cowboys on Death Row: Our Visit to a Supermax Prison

It gets sadder because he's been there so long now. Both his parents, that ritual is gone now because both of his parents have passed away. And as you listen to Charles, you understand that with his parents gone, that's just made sports all the more important to Charles and his survival on death row.

Pablo Torre Finds Out
Watching the Dallas Cowboys on Death Row: Our Visit to a Supermax Prison

The way I interpreted what he was saying was he lives in a way where 24 hours a day, seven days a week, someone's trying to kill him. That's the white noise of his life. He doesn't know when it's going to happen, but that's the stress that he lives under.

Pablo Torre Finds Out
Watching the Dallas Cowboys on Death Row: Our Visit to a Supermax Prison

The way I interpreted what he was saying was he lives in a way where 24 hours a day, seven days a week, someone's trying to kill him. That's the white noise of his life. He doesn't know when it's going to happen, but that's the stress that he lives under.

Pablo Torre Finds Out
Watching the Dallas Cowboys on Death Row: Our Visit to a Supermax Prison

The way I interpreted what he was saying was he lives in a way where 24 hours a day, seven days a week, someone's trying to kill him. That's the white noise of his life. He doesn't know when it's going to happen, but that's the stress that he lives under.

Pablo Torre Finds Out
Watching the Dallas Cowboys on Death Row: Our Visit to a Supermax Prison

And so the line about how maybe the crazy ones are the ones who continue to live on death row and the sane ones are the ones who check out by committing suicide. I mean, if there's a better way to explain the insanity and the pressure that they live under, I haven't read it.

Pablo Torre Finds Out
Watching the Dallas Cowboys on Death Row: Our Visit to a Supermax Prison

And so the line about how maybe the crazy ones are the ones who continue to live on death row and the sane ones are the ones who check out by committing suicide. I mean, if there's a better way to explain the insanity and the pressure that they live under, I haven't read it.

Pablo Torre Finds Out
Watching the Dallas Cowboys on Death Row: Our Visit to a Supermax Prison

And so the line about how maybe the crazy ones are the ones who continue to live on death row and the sane ones are the ones who check out by committing suicide. I mean, if there's a better way to explain the insanity and the pressure that they live under, I haven't read it.

Pablo Torre Finds Out
Watching the Dallas Cowboys on Death Row: Our Visit to a Supermax Prison

It's just amazing that one day two of these prisoners were talking and they were like, maybe we're the crazy ones because we've adapted to live like this.

Pablo Torre Finds Out
Watching the Dallas Cowboys on Death Row: Our Visit to a Supermax Prison

It's just amazing that one day two of these prisoners were talking and they were like, maybe we're the crazy ones because we've adapted to live like this.

Pablo Torre Finds Out
Watching the Dallas Cowboys on Death Row: Our Visit to a Supermax Prison

It's just amazing that one day two of these prisoners were talking and they were like, maybe we're the crazy ones because we've adapted to live like this.

Pablo Torre Finds Out
Watching the Dallas Cowboys on Death Row: Our Visit to a Supermax Prison

Yeah, we can survive in this situation. It's stunning.

Pablo Torre Finds Out
Watching the Dallas Cowboys on Death Row: Our Visit to a Supermax Prison

Yeah, we can survive in this situation. It's stunning.

Pablo Torre Finds Out
Watching the Dallas Cowboys on Death Row: Our Visit to a Supermax Prison

Yeah, we can survive in this situation. It's stunning.

Pablo Torre Finds Out
Watching the Dallas Cowboys on Death Row: Our Visit to a Supermax Prison

Yeah, that was the whole point of this exercise, right? Is to find out why someone would love sports that much. that they would include it in their last words. And before even leaving on this assignment, I shared this database with a anthropologist in Chicago. Her name is Dr. Shannon Lee Doughty. And she is an expert in death rituals. And I just wanted to get her opinion on it.