Dhruv Khullar

Yes. Okay.

Yes. Okay.

Yes. Okay.

I want to ask you about the dietary guidelines. So a group of experts. Yes. —met in the fall to preview their recommendations for the next five years of dietary guidelines for the United States. And that group of nutrition experts at least seem to say that we don't have enough high-quality evidence to make a strong recommendation against ultra-processed foods.

I want to ask you about the dietary guidelines. So a group of experts. Yes. —met in the fall to preview their recommendations for the next five years of dietary guidelines for the United States. And that group of nutrition experts at least seem to say that we don't have enough high-quality evidence to make a strong recommendation against ultra-processed foods.

I want to ask you about the dietary guidelines. So a group of experts. Yes. —met in the fall to preview their recommendations for the next five years of dietary guidelines for the United States. And that group of nutrition experts at least seem to say that we don't have enough high-quality evidence to make a strong recommendation against ultra-processed foods.

I think they talked about some caution around processed meats, but they declined to basically tell people in a clear way that you should avoid ultra-processed foods. What did you make of that? —

I think they talked about some caution around processed meats, but they declined to basically tell people in a clear way that you should avoid ultra-processed foods. What did you make of that? —

I think they talked about some caution around processed meats, but they declined to basically tell people in a clear way that you should avoid ultra-processed foods. What did you make of that? —

What do you make of some of the other ideas? I mean, I'm thinking about things like no ultra-processed food in schools. I'm thinking about taxes on certain types of foods or food additives, changing the subsidies to corn and soy, for instance. You know, what do you make of those types of proposals?

What do you make of some of the other ideas? I mean, I'm thinking about things like no ultra-processed food in schools. I'm thinking about taxes on certain types of foods or food additives, changing the subsidies to corn and soy, for instance. You know, what do you make of those types of proposals?

What do you make of some of the other ideas? I mean, I'm thinking about things like no ultra-processed food in schools. I'm thinking about taxes on certain types of foods or food additives, changing the subsidies to corn and soy, for instance. You know, what do you make of those types of proposals?

Yeah. Okay, gotcha, gotcha. As I understand it, there's this, what I call the vitamin era, you know, around the Great Depression and the World War II. There's the nutrient era, maybe mid-century to the 90s, where people are focused on individual nutrients, and then kind of more of a dietary pattern era. Maybe we've been in that one since the 90s.

Yeah. Okay, gotcha, gotcha. As I understand it, there's this, what I call the vitamin era, you know, around the Great Depression and the World War II. There's the nutrient era, maybe mid-century to the 90s, where people are focused on individual nutrients, and then kind of more of a dietary pattern era. Maybe we've been in that one since the 90s.

Yeah. Okay, gotcha, gotcha. As I understand it, there's this, what I call the vitamin era, you know, around the Great Depression and the World War II. There's the nutrient era, maybe mid-century to the 90s, where people are focused on individual nutrients, and then kind of more of a dietary pattern era. Maybe we've been in that one since the 90s.

How does ultra-processed food fit into that framework, if at all?

How does ultra-processed food fit into that framework, if at all?

How does ultra-processed food fit into that framework, if at all?

So, Marion, you're someone who's probably thought about this more than anyone that I know. What's your relationship to food? How do you make the right decisions? Okay. And how do you choose the right foods?

So, Marion, you're someone who's probably thought about this more than anyone that I know. What's your relationship to food? How do you make the right decisions? Okay. And how do you choose the right foods?