Diane Diamond
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On May 1, 1990, Pamela is at a school board meeting. She gets home about 10 o'clock. She goes to the front door, and she notices that the light is out. This is odd. And she opens the front door, and in the vestibule is her husband.
On May 1, 1990, Pamela is at a school board meeting. She gets home about 10 o'clock. She goes to the front door, and she notices that the light is out. This is odd. And she opens the front door, and in the vestibule is her husband.
She starts banging on doors. Somebody call 911. Hurry, hurry. My husband, my husband.
She starts banging on doors. Somebody call 911. Hurry, hurry. My husband, my husband.
Pamela is outside. She's sobbing. She wants to know what's going on. Is there a burglar in the house? Is Greg okay? Is he breathing? What's happening?
Pamela is outside. She's sobbing. She wants to know what's going on. Is there a burglar in the house? Is Greg okay? Is he breathing? What's happening?
People in that house that night told me that she was a wreck. She was an inconsolable mess.
People in that house that night told me that she was a wreck. She was an inconsolable mess.
However, police find that Greg still has his wallet. He still has a gold wedding band on his hand. Pamela reported nothing much was missing except a few little pieces of her jewelry.
However, police find that Greg still has his wallet. He still has a gold wedding band on his hand. Pamela reported nothing much was missing except a few little pieces of her jewelry.
Something just doesn't seem right here.
Something just doesn't seem right here.
Pam gave her first media interview to a local television reporter six days after Greg was murdered.
Pam gave her first media interview to a local television reporter six days after Greg was murdered.
At that time, she appears perfectly together. She has on a prim little outfit.
At that time, she appears perfectly together. She has on a prim little outfit.
She does appear introspective. She does appear to miss her husband.
She does appear introspective. She does appear to miss her husband.
Until... The big break for police comes on June 10th, 1990, about six weeks after the murder.
Until... The big break for police comes on June 10th, 1990, about six weeks after the murder.
Ralph Welsh is the first one who mentions Pam Smart's name.
Ralph Welsh is the first one who mentions Pam Smart's name.
The police have finally got a direction in which to take this investigation.
The police have finally got a direction in which to take this investigation.
Pam has an answer for everything the police called suspicious. So who do you believe?
Pam has an answer for everything the police called suspicious. So who do you believe?
Yeah, I was. Pam learned about a contest for high school kids in which they made a commercial about orange juice. So she got the kids together and said, hey, you can win a trip to Disneyland if you want to make this commercial.
Yeah, I was. Pam learned about a contest for high school kids in which they made a commercial about orange juice. So she got the kids together and said, hey, you can win a trip to Disneyland if you want to make this commercial.
This put Pam and Billy in very close proximity. She directed it. He wrote the music for the commercial.
This put Pam and Billy in very close proximity. She directed it. He wrote the music for the commercial.
You know, I'm still here. They have a 22-year-old woman who's having an affair with a 16-year-old boy, and that boy is tied to the murder weapon.
You know, I'm still here. They have a 22-year-old woman who's having an affair with a 16-year-old boy, and that boy is tied to the murder weapon.
These three teenagers are in custody, but they are not talking to the police.
These three teenagers are in custody, but they are not talking to the police.
Cecilia Pierce is a teenager who goes to Winnicott at high school. She is the intern of Pamela Smart.
Cecilia Pierce is a teenager who goes to Winnicott at high school. She is the intern of Pamela Smart.
This is a bombshell. Imagine what the police are thinking at this point. They have a 22-year-old woman who's having an affair with a 16-year-old boy, and that boy is tied to the murder weapon that was used to kill the woman's husband. These are big pieces of a puzzle they're putting together here.
This is a bombshell. Imagine what the police are thinking at this point. They have a 22-year-old woman who's having an affair with a 16-year-old boy, and that boy is tied to the murder weapon that was used to kill the woman's husband. These are big pieces of a puzzle they're putting together here.
My name is Diane Diamond. I am a veteran journalist, reporter, and I've been covering the Pamela Smart case since the mid-90s. Pamela is one of three children. She has a sister and a brother. Her mother, a homemaker, who took homemaking very seriously.
My name is Diane Diamond. I am a veteran journalist, reporter, and I've been covering the Pamela Smart case since the mid-90s. Pamela is one of three children. She has a sister and a brother. Her mother, a homemaker, who took homemaking very seriously.
Ultimately, the wire that Cecilia Pierce wore became the reason the police were able to go and arrest Pamela Smart.
Ultimately, the wire that Cecilia Pierce wore became the reason the police were able to go and arrest Pamela Smart.
They have convinced themselves that they will go free once they turn 18 if they just keep their mouths shut.
They have convinced themselves that they will go free once they turn 18 if they just keep their mouths shut.
Then her family moved to New Hampshire.
Then her family moved to New Hampshire.
So did they concoct this as teenagers frequently do to protect each other? Yeah, it wasn't us. It was Pam. Or did Pam really help them? Was she the mastermind of this whole conspiracy to murder plot?
So did they concoct this as teenagers frequently do to protect each other? Yeah, it wasn't us. It was Pam. Or did Pam really help them? Was she the mastermind of this whole conspiracy to murder plot?
The prosecutor made a plea deal agreement with Pete Randall and Billy Flynn, the two who had actually committed the murder.
The prosecutor made a plea deal agreement with Pete Randall and Billy Flynn, the two who had actually committed the murder.
When Billy Flynn took the stand, he seemed to be every bit the innocent virgin that the prosecution painted him in the opening statements.
When Billy Flynn took the stand, he seemed to be every bit the innocent virgin that the prosecution painted him in the opening statements.
Those photographs made it into court, and the prosecution claimed that she had deliberately taken those to be seductive, to get Billy Flynn to do her bidding, to kill her husband.
Those photographs made it into court, and the prosecution claimed that she had deliberately taken those to be seductive, to get Billy Flynn to do her bidding, to kill her husband.
The courtroom was hushed. She was, again, dressed in her prim, proper little outfit with her hair done perfectly with a big bow.
The courtroom was hushed. She was, again, dressed in her prim, proper little outfit with her hair done perfectly with a big bow.
The defense argument was that Pamela Smart fully admitted she'd had an affair with a teenage boy.
The defense argument was that Pamela Smart fully admitted she'd had an affair with a teenage boy.
Pamela Smart had broken the affair off, and he got mad. And that was his retribution, to kill her husband in cold blood.
Pamela Smart had broken the affair off, and he got mad. And that was his retribution, to kill her husband in cold blood.
Greg Smart's family let out a howl. On Pam's side of the courtroom, her parents just sat in deathly silence, crushed.
Greg Smart's family let out a howl. On Pam's side of the courtroom, her parents just sat in deathly silence, crushed.
I remember Diane Sawyer interviewed Pamela Smart, and I was riveted. Tonight, Pamela Smart, her first interview since the arrest.
I remember Diane Sawyer interviewed Pamela Smart, and I was riveted. Tonight, Pamela Smart, her first interview since the arrest.
She also got the only interview ever with Billy Flynn.
She also got the only interview ever with Billy Flynn.
That's the guy Pam told me she fell in love with.
That's the guy Pam told me she fell in love with.
She was attacked by two inmates who thought she was a snitch.
She was attacked by two inmates who thought she was a snitch.
He wasn't interested in going to college. He was just interested in being with Pam.
He wasn't interested in going to college. He was just interested in being with Pam.
Greg and Pam got married on May 7, 1989.
Greg and Pam got married on May 7, 1989.
When you look at the photographs and the video of that wedding, I don't know that I've seen a happier couple.
When you look at the photographs and the video of that wedding, I don't know that I've seen a happier couple.
The couple moved back to New Hampshire.
The couple moved back to New Hampshire.
Derry, New Hampshire's nickname is the Space Town. It's named because it was the home of Alan Shepard, the astronaut. The poet Robert Frost comes from there.
Derry, New Hampshire's nickname is the Space Town. It's named because it was the home of Alan Shepard, the astronaut. The poet Robert Frost comes from there.
Pamela got a job with the public school system, and she became the media liaison among about a dozen public schools.
Pamela got a job with the public school system, and she became the media liaison among about a dozen public schools.
Greg sort of settled down a little bit. He cut off his long hair. He went into the respectable insurance business with his father.
Greg sort of settled down a little bit. He cut off his long hair. He went into the respectable insurance business with his father.
It seemed that this couple had everything going for them. Good jobs, a nice rented home, good furniture. They even had a little dog.
It seemed that this couple had everything going for them. Good jobs, a nice rented home, good furniture. They even had a little dog.
Greg was working a lot. And he would work at night, go to people's homes, pitch insurance policies. And Pam was left alone.
Greg was working a lot. And he would work at night, go to people's homes, pitch insurance policies. And Pam was left alone.
Her mother later told me that during this period, it seemed like Pam finally stopped focusing on just work and became more social, but a little immaturely social. She started to hang around with the high school students when she went to work every day.
Her mother later told me that during this period, it seemed like Pam finally stopped focusing on just work and became more social, but a little immaturely social. She started to hang around with the high school students when she went to work every day.
This story had it all. A beautiful young woman, a seductress of a young teenage boy.
This story had it all. A beautiful young woman, a seductress of a young teenage boy.