Dr. Aaron Kheriaty

I heard it used. I heard the word catharsis used a couple times on cable news. They said, whoa, people feel a catharsis. And I thought, you're not endorsing this behavior. That's a tragic, the tragedy that they're feeling this way.

I heard it used. I heard the word catharsis used a couple times on cable news. They said, whoa, people feel a catharsis. And I thought, you're not endorsing this behavior. That's a tragic, the tragedy that they're feeling this way.

What do you say, Matthias? Extricate yourself, ourselves.

What do you say, Matthias? Extricate yourself, ourselves.

I worry about the health of our families as the zone most responsible for developing, I think you called empathic attunement or resonance. But let me push back on one little piece. And that is religion throughout human history, really until kind of Christianity, involves sacrifice. And I would argue that Aaron talked about how the catharsis associated with scapegoating only lasts so long.

I worry about the health of our families as the zone most responsible for developing, I think you called empathic attunement or resonance. But let me push back on one little piece. And that is religion throughout human history, really until kind of Christianity, involves sacrifice. And I would argue that Aaron talked about how the catharsis associated with scapegoating only lasts so long.

The Aztecs perfected that. They understood that, and that's why they did it every day to keep the cohesion together. And then it seems like on some level, subconscious or otherwise, the Christians got it too, and their position was, we can stop all the sacrifice now because this one guy is sacrificed. One guy got sacrificed for you, and he is God's guy. Therefore, we only have to do this once.

The Aztecs perfected that. They understood that, and that's why they did it every day to keep the cohesion together. And then it seems like on some level, subconscious or otherwise, the Christians got it too, and their position was, we can stop all the sacrifice now because this one guy is sacrificed. One guy got sacrificed for you, and he is God's guy. Therefore, we only have to do this once.

And you can eat him and drink his blood every so often in this ritual, but it's still about sacrifice and still about scapegoating, isn't it, Matthias?

And you can eat him and drink his blood every so often in this ritual, but it's still about sacrifice and still about scapegoating, isn't it, Matthias?

I'm not hearing a clear solution from either of you. I'm hearing a dynamic that needs to be put in place, but I'm not hearing a solution. Is that because we don't have one? Aaron, you first.

I'm not hearing a clear solution from either of you. I'm hearing a dynamic that needs to be put in place, but I'm not hearing a solution. Is that because we don't have one? Aaron, you first.

It's the Beatles answer. We'll call it the Beatles answer. So, but I'm looking for, you know, we're talking a lot about forces. And, Matthias, I'll get you to answer this question, too. They get put in place that are working against all this. What forces can we put solutions? What forces can we put in place to push things in the right direction?

It's the Beatles answer. We'll call it the Beatles answer. So, but I'm looking for, you know, we're talking a lot about forces. And, Matthias, I'll get you to answer this question, too. They get put in place that are working against all this. What forces can we put solutions? What forces can we put in place to push things in the right direction?

I mean, for instance, putting things in place that helps families stay together, helps families thrive, things like that. But, Matthias, you go ahead.

I mean, for instance, putting things in place that helps families stay together, helps families thrive, things like that. But, Matthias, you go ahead.

I love it. I think... And I want to break it down a little bit and I will... Aaron, I've got to take a break and I will pick up right with your comment, okay? Write it down. Remember what you want to say. Don't leave me because I'm sure it's something significant. We'll be right back. You can follow Matthias on MatthiasDesmond.org. Also, X...

I love it. I think... And I want to break it down a little bit and I will... Aaron, I've got to take a break and I will pick up right with your comment, okay? Write it down. Remember what you want to say. Don't leave me because I'm sure it's something significant. We'll be right back. You can follow Matthias on MatthiasDesmond.org. Also, X...

Desmond Matias, Aaron Cariotti, and Aaron Cariotti, M-D-K-H-E-R-I-A-T-Y. The New Abnormal is his book. The Psychology of Totalitarianism is Desmond's. We'll be right back after this. The wellness company knows that taking charge of your family's health care is a top priority, and being rationally ready, who knows what the future will hold for us.

Desmond Matias, Aaron Cariotti, and Aaron Cariotti, M-D-K-H-E-R-I-A-T-Y. The New Abnormal is his book. The Psychology of Totalitarianism is Desmond's. We'll be right back after this. The wellness company knows that taking charge of your family's health care is a top priority, and being rationally ready, who knows what the future will hold for us.