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Dr. Anna Lembke

👤 Speaker
1745 total appearances

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Podcast Appearances

The Oprah Podcast
When Your Kids Won’t Put Their Phones Down, with Oprah & Addiction Specialist Dr. Anna Lembke

To really conceptualize digital media as a potent drug and to think about, you know, protecting their child from it.

The Oprah Podcast
When Your Kids Won’t Put Their Phones Down, with Oprah & Addiction Specialist Dr. Anna Lembke

I think a good analogy for digital media is actually processed food.

The Oprah Podcast
When Your Kids Won’t Put Their Phones Down, with Oprah & Addiction Specialist Dr. Anna Lembke

So, for example, most parents would not feed their kid ice cream for breakfast, and yet many parents are fine letting their kid, even a very young child, hold the phone at the breakfast table.

The Oprah Podcast
When Your Kids Won’t Put Their Phones Down, with Oprah & Addiction Specialist Dr. Anna Lembke

I think when we think about it that way, there are occasions when you would give your child ice cream or chocolate cake or what have you, but you wouldn't just let them have it whenever they wanted it all day long.

The Oprah Podcast
When Your Kids Won’t Put Their Phones Down, with Oprah & Addiction Specialist Dr. Anna Lembke

I think this idea that we're sort of entertaining ourselves to death and there's in fact a famous older book called Amusing Ourselves to Death by Neil Postman is really does capture it well.

The Oprah Podcast
When Your Kids Won’t Put Their Phones Down, with Oprah & Addiction Specialist Dr. Anna Lembke

It's very subtle and insidious.

The Oprah Podcast
When Your Kids Won’t Put Their Phones Down, with Oprah & Addiction Specialist Dr. Anna Lembke

It seems harmless.

The Oprah Podcast
When Your Kids Won’t Put Their Phones Down, with Oprah & Addiction Specialist Dr. Anna Lembke

In the moment it feels good, but it's the cumulative effect over time that really adversely impacts our wellbeing, our mental health,

The Oprah Podcast
When Your Kids Won’t Put Their Phones Down, with Oprah & Addiction Specialist Dr. Anna Lembke

and truly our ability to connect to other people.

The Oprah Podcast
When Your Kids Won’t Put Their Phones Down, with Oprah & Addiction Specialist Dr. Anna Lembke

I mean, social media in particular essentially takes our innate need and desire to connect with other people and distills it down to its most addictive elements so that for very little upfront work, all we have to do is swipe right, swipe left,

The Oprah Podcast
When Your Kids Won’t Put Their Phones Down, with Oprah & Addiction Specialist Dr. Anna Lembke

And it creates this illusion of connection, even when real connection is not happening.

The Oprah Podcast
When Your Kids Won’t Put Their Phones Down, with Oprah & Addiction Specialist Dr. Anna Lembke

Because real connection with other humans is effortful, right?

The Oprah Podcast
When Your Kids Won’t Put Their Phones Down, with Oprah & Addiction Specialist Dr. Anna Lembke

We have to go out and find the humans.

The Oprah Podcast
When Your Kids Won’t Put Their Phones Down, with Oprah & Addiction Specialist Dr. Anna Lembke

We have to, you know, compromise.

The Oprah Podcast
When Your Kids Won’t Put Their Phones Down, with Oprah & Addiction Specialist Dr. Anna Lembke

There's give and take, there's gonna be conflict, there's frustration.

The Oprah Podcast
When Your Kids Won’t Put Their Phones Down, with Oprah & Addiction Specialist Dr. Anna Lembke

But digital media and social media in particular removes all of that.

The Oprah Podcast
When Your Kids Won’t Put Their Phones Down, with Oprah & Addiction Specialist Dr. Anna Lembke

So it's just this seamless experience where we feel

The Oprah Podcast
When Your Kids Won’t Put Their Phones Down, with Oprah & Addiction Specialist Dr. Anna Lembke

feel like we're connecting.

The Oprah Podcast
When Your Kids Won’t Put Their Phones Down, with Oprah & Addiction Specialist Dr. Anna Lembke

Or you get the likes or the friends or the followers, you know, the comments.

The Oprah Podcast
When Your Kids Won’t Put Their Phones Down, with Oprah & Addiction Specialist Dr. Anna Lembke

It's like this trance-like state that we can get in where it just feels so good, like with any drug.