Dr. Baland Jalal

It's very interesting. So we actually, we were the first group to show that people with OCD who has very fixed sense of self, right? So they wash their hands all the times, washing and scrubbing.

When they do this illusion, they have a much more sensitivity to it to the extent that there's a control condition for this illusion where you, so the illusion, for the illusion to occur, you have to stroke and tap, tap, tap, stroke and stroke and tap in a synchronized manner. That's important, right? So that's key.

When they do this illusion, they have a much more sensitivity to it to the extent that there's a control condition for this illusion where you, so the illusion, for the illusion to occur, you have to stroke and tap, tap, tap, stroke and stroke and tap in a synchronized manner. That's important, right? So that's key.

When they do this illusion, they have a much more sensitivity to it to the extent that there's a control condition for this illusion where you, so the illusion, for the illusion to occur, you have to stroke and tap, tap, tap, stroke and stroke and tap in a synchronized manner. That's important, right? So that's key.

But in people with, oh, so the control for this, by the way, is if you do it in a random sequence, like tap, tap, stroke, stroke, but everything is just random. Right. And you do, again, the touching and stroking is random. Then the illusion will not occur or it would be slightly. So you have a slight illusion there or most of the time, no illusion. So this is the key control for the illusion.

But in people with, oh, so the control for this, by the way, is if you do it in a random sequence, like tap, tap, stroke, stroke, but everything is just random. Right. And you do, again, the touching and stroking is random. Then the illusion will not occur or it would be slightly. So you have a slight illusion there or most of the time, no illusion. So this is the key control for the illusion.

But in people with, oh, so the control for this, by the way, is if you do it in a random sequence, like tap, tap, stroke, stroke, but everything is just random. Right. And you do, again, the touching and stroking is random. Then the illusion will not occur or it would be slightly. So you have a slight illusion there or most of the time, no illusion. So this is the key control for the illusion.

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Yes. Okay, so elaborate on that. Absolutely. And I just want to, just one point here is that I mentioned a table. So the original experiment was done with a rubber hand, right? Right, right. But I'm using table because it's more, it illustrates the experiment better, I think, and you can have a table as well.

Yes. Okay, so elaborate on that. Absolutely. And I just want to, just one point here is that I mentioned a table. So the original experiment was done with a rubber hand, right? Right, right. But I'm using table because it's more, it illustrates the experiment better, I think, and you can have a table as well.

Yes. Okay, so elaborate on that. Absolutely. And I just want to, just one point here is that I mentioned a table. So the original experiment was done with a rubber hand, right? Right, right. But I'm using table because it's more, it illustrates the experiment better, I think, and you can have a table as well.

Right. So instead of a table, you just have a rubber hand that looks like your own hand, and then you stroke and tap the rubber hand, right, in front of the person.

Right. So instead of a table, you just have a rubber hand that looks like your own hand, and then you stroke and tap the rubber hand, right, in front of the person.

Right. So instead of a table, you just have a rubber hand that looks like your own hand, and then you stroke and tap the rubber hand, right, in front of the person.

Right, right, exactly.