Dr. Clare Craig
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That's like, you know, part of the sequence of what a virus could do. What these replicating ones, one of the differences is, as you pointed out, their capsule is lipid rather than protein. What that means is they haven't got anything on the surface that allows antibodies to bind to say this is something foreign that we need to get rid of.
That's like, you know, part of the sequence of what a virus could do. What these replicating ones, one of the differences is, as you pointed out, their capsule is lipid rather than protein. What that means is they haven't got anything on the surface that allows antibodies to bind to say this is something foreign that we need to get rid of.
So they're actually like kind of stealth viral type things because they've got nothing. The immune system can't attack them until they've already done something in a cell. So that in some ways they're even worse than a virus would be. But yeah, the ethics of it is something that has just been sidelined and it's been done very intentionally.
So they're actually like kind of stealth viral type things because they've got nothing. The immune system can't attack them until they've already done something in a cell. So that in some ways they're even worse than a virus would be. But yeah, the ethics of it is something that has just been sidelined and it's been done very intentionally.
And there are lots and lots of strict and difficult experiments that have to be done in order to do anything to do with genetic therapies. And those were all bypassed on the basis that we were in an emergency and then we were going to call these vaccines. And it's as if the word vaccine has this kind of, you know, all powerful sanctification of a drug when the drug is still a gene therapy.
And there are lots and lots of strict and difficult experiments that have to be done in order to do anything to do with genetic therapies. And those were all bypassed on the basis that we were in an emergency and then we were going to call these vaccines. And it's as if the word vaccine has this kind of, you know, all powerful sanctification of a drug when the drug is still a gene therapy.
And it should have had to go through all of the hoops that gene therapy drugs go through. And now that they've done that. they seem to think, well, we can carry on down this path and we don't have to, first of all, go back and do the work on the products that billions of people have had, which have not been done. And second of all, just carry on with these crazy experiments.
And it should have had to go through all of the hoops that gene therapy drugs go through. And now that they've done that. they seem to think, well, we can carry on down this path and we don't have to, first of all, go back and do the work on the products that billions of people have had, which have not been done. And second of all, just carry on with these crazy experiments.
So there's sort of fundamental points around checking whether or not a product like that will enter the DNA, what kind of rate at which it will sort of get into the human DNA. And, you know, the sort of thing I was referring to before around how long it lasts and what happens to the nucleotides after the product's broken down.
So there's sort of fundamental points around checking whether or not a product like that will enter the DNA, what kind of rate at which it will sort of get into the human DNA. And, you know, the sort of thing I was referring to before around how long it lasts and what happens to the nucleotides after the product's broken down.
what it does for fertility and the germline, you know, all of that wasn't done. It wasn't done. And they just said, oh, we didn't do this. And they were quite open about it because they didn't need to lie because the regulators weren't making them do it. And the regulators still haven't made them do it. That's the real scandal. It's not even been done in retrospect.
what it does for fertility and the germline, you know, all of that wasn't done. It wasn't done. And they just said, oh, we didn't do this. And they were quite open about it because they didn't need to lie because the regulators weren't making them do it. And the regulators still haven't made them do it. That's the real scandal. It's not even been done in retrospect.
And I was looking today at something Pfizer said at the time, back in 2021 on their website, when they were talking about how they had a whole team of people who did gene therapy and And they got that team and they just pulled them into the COVID vaccine and worked because they had all the experience of their mRNA technology and their lipid nanoparticles because that is what gene therapy is.
And I was looking today at something Pfizer said at the time, back in 2021 on their website, when they were talking about how they had a whole team of people who did gene therapy and And they got that team and they just pulled them into the COVID vaccine and worked because they had all the experience of their mRNA technology and their lipid nanoparticles because that is what gene therapy is.
They were the experts in it.
They were the experts in it.
Yeah. And, you know, of course, the story that I was referring to earlier that's been shared a lot is around the DNA that was in these products, which were contaminant DNA. And that DNA included... regions of sequence that tells the surrounding cell machinery to replicate it and make a particular protein.
Yeah. And, you know, of course, the story that I was referring to earlier that's been shared a lot is around the DNA that was in these products, which were contaminant DNA. And that DNA included... regions of sequence that tells the surrounding cell machinery to replicate it and make a particular protein.
And if that kind of sequence ends up in your DNA near a whole load of different genes, which are growth genes or replication genes or anything like that, that is a That is a cancer risk. And that sequence should never have been there at all. The DNA should never have been contaminating these vials. The regulator wasn't told about this sequence.
And if that kind of sequence ends up in your DNA near a whole load of different genes, which are growth genes or replication genes or anything like that, that is a That is a cancer risk. And that sequence should never have been there at all. The DNA should never have been contaminating these vials. The regulator wasn't told about this sequence.