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Dr. David Gwynn

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The Ancients
Emperor Diocletian and the Great Persecution

And in a sense, what's the classical pagan equivalent to Batman and Robin?

The Ancients
Emperor Diocletian and the Great Persecution

Jupiter and Hercules.

The Ancients
Emperor Diocletian and the Great Persecution

And this is actually the symbolism they use.

The Ancients
Emperor Diocletian and the Great Persecution

So Diocletian becomes Jovius, Maximian is Hercules.

The Ancients
Emperor Diocletian and the Great Persecution

So they're both claiming divine strength, but there's a hierarchy there.

The Ancients
Emperor Diocletian and the Great Persecution

Jupiter, the father, the oldest, the king of the gods, Hercules, the great hero.

The Ancients
Emperor Diocletian and the Great Persecution

And when it is just the two of them, where do they base themselves?

The Ancients
Emperor Diocletian and the Great Persecution

So where are you going to prioritize?

The Ancients
Emperor Diocletian and the Great Persecution

Well, the greatest single threat is the Persian Sasanian Empire.

The Ancients
Emperor Diocletian and the Great Persecution

So Diocletian stays in the east.

The Ancients
Emperor Diocletian and the Great Persecution

Increasingly, although he does move around, using the city of Nicomedia, not that far from modern Istanbul, but on the Turkish side in Asia Minor.

The Ancients
Emperor Diocletian and the Great Persecution

Maximian gets sent westward, because the most immediate single concern is the person that Diocletian had hoped would help stabilize the Rhine, and in particular Britain, has decided to set up his own miniature empire instead.

The Ancients
Emperor Diocletian and the Great Persecution

This is Carusius.

The Ancients
Emperor Diocletian and the Great Persecution

And so Carusius has seized power in Britain,

The Ancients
Emperor Diocletian and the Great Persecution

Maximian's job is going to be to stabilize those regions.

The Ancients
Emperor Diocletian and the Great Persecution

So where does Maximian go?

The Ancients
Emperor Diocletian and the Great Persecution

He goes to Trier on the modern French-German border.

The Ancients
Emperor Diocletian and the Great Persecution

dividing power between two rulers had been quite common in Roman history.

The Ancients
Emperor Diocletian and the Great Persecution

Marcus Aurelius had done it back in the second century.

The Ancients
Emperor Diocletian and the Great Persecution

It happened quite often in the third century crisis.