Dr. Elizabeth Comen

I loved...

Was that something you were trained with?

No, I think we trained similarly, but I think this threat of humanity has always been in medicine, but more recently we've really lost the plot.

If you look at, we've lost our trust in science, we've lost our trust in medicine, in our healthcare system, in these third-party players that infiltrate the doctor-patient relationship and pull us away from where we want to be.

I think we could both agree that almost all doctors go into this caring for humans, and yet we are pulled away from these natural, intuitive senses of how we wanna connect.

Yeah.

And I think it is a calling for so many of us, but I would love to see medicine and our healthcare system wrap around that calling and bring the patient and doctor to the forefront.

Back together.

Yes.

I mean, I think, and it deeply affects women's healthcare as well.

If you look at what gets reimbursed for men's healthcare.

So when we say third

party we're talking about insurance yeah and if you if you look at what gets reimbursed for female specific procedures you would know better than i i mean surgeries for fibroids and endometriosis some of which are extremely complicated comparable surgeries and men often get reimbursed two to three times yes higher yeah lose the surgeon she's a gynecologic surgeon jocelyn fitzgerald yes

Yes, and again, it points to what do we value as a society and how have we devalued women's health?

Where do these gaps come from?

How do we close them?

And what are the financial ramifications of that?

And the financial ramifications are not just to who gets reimbursed, but you know that we are the primary caregivers, deliverers, and providers of our healthcare.

So even if you don't care about women, if you are not supporting women's health, you're not supporting our society, you're not supporting our economic security, and it has huge ramifications.

Yeah, you got it.