Dr. Hilary Cass

Yes. So my name's Hilary Cass. I'm chair of the Independent Review into Services for Gender Questioning Young People. And I was selected because I have previously been a president of the Royal College of Paediatrics and Child Health. And so that gives me a fairly high profile role in policy and

Yes. So my name's Hilary Cass. I'm chair of the Independent Review into Services for Gender Questioning Young People. And I was selected because I have previously been a president of the Royal College of Paediatrics and Child Health. And so that gives me a fairly high profile role in policy and

And having just started my retirement, the phone went and NHS England asked if I might be interested in taking on this role.

And having just started my retirement, the phone went and NHS England asked if I might be interested in taking on this role.

Yes, the plans to learn how to play the saxophone and how to play bridge kind of went to the wall.

Yes, the plans to learn how to play the saxophone and how to play bridge kind of went to the wall.

So I obviously had some idea of how contentious it was. It's become more toxic in the time since I took it on.

So I obviously had some idea of how contentious it was. It's become more toxic in the time since I took it on.

So the most important concern for me is just how poor the evidence base is in this area. And some people have questioned, did we set a higher bar for this group of young people? We absolutely didn't.

So the most important concern for me is just how poor the evidence base is in this area. And some people have questioned, did we set a higher bar for this group of young people? We absolutely didn't.

She says that for most young people, a medical pathway will not be the best way to manage their gender-related distress.

She says that for most young people, a medical pathway will not be the best way to manage their gender-related distress.

From the New York Times, I'm Austin Mitchell. This is The Protocol with Azeen Qureshi. Part 5. The Review.

From the New York Times, I'm Austin Mitchell. This is The Protocol with Azeen Qureshi. Part 5. The Review.

Yes.

Yes.

People were worried that we throw out anything that wasn't a randomized controlled trial, which is the gold standard for study design. We didn't.

People were worried that we throw out anything that wasn't a randomized controlled trial, which is the gold standard for study design. We didn't.

Even so… Other kinds of studies that aren't RCTs can give us really good information, but they have to be well-conducted.

Even so… Other kinds of studies that aren't RCTs can give us really good information, but they have to be well-conducted.