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Dr. Karen Guzzo

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353 total appearances

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Fresh Air
Baby Bonuses, Trad Wives & The Pronatalist Movement

Well, I think what's interesting about them is that they have evolved in how they appear in the media. They are now a very specific brand, and they are cultivating that brand. And one of the things they talk about in their brand is their view of everything is data-driven. Everything they're doing is very calculated and designed to be really efficient.

Fresh Air
Baby Bonuses, Trad Wives & The Pronatalist Movement

Well, I think what's interesting about them is that they have evolved in how they appear in the media. They are now a very specific brand, and they are cultivating that brand. And one of the things they talk about in their brand is their view of everything is data-driven. Everything they're doing is very calculated and designed to be really efficient.

Fresh Air
Baby Bonuses, Trad Wives & The Pronatalist Movement

Well, I think what's interesting about them is that they have evolved in how they appear in the media. They are now a very specific brand, and they are cultivating that brand. And one of the things they talk about in their brand is their view of everything is data-driven. Everything they're doing is very calculated and designed to be really efficient.

Fresh Air
Baby Bonuses, Trad Wives & The Pronatalist Movement

And that's how they figure out what kids and how to have kids and spacing and all sorts of things and parenting. Except there was a profile of them a few years ago where Malcolm sort of swatted his child in front of the reporter. And the reporter was sort of aghast at it. And he said that his wife saw it on like a nature documentary.

Fresh Air
Baby Bonuses, Trad Wives & The Pronatalist Movement

And that's how they figure out what kids and how to have kids and spacing and all sorts of things and parenting. Except there was a profile of them a few years ago where Malcolm sort of swatted his child in front of the reporter. And the reporter was sort of aghast at it. And he said that his wife saw it on like a nature documentary.

Fresh Air
Baby Bonuses, Trad Wives & The Pronatalist Movement

And that's how they figure out what kids and how to have kids and spacing and all sorts of things and parenting. Except there was a profile of them a few years ago where Malcolm sort of swatted his child in front of the reporter. And the reporter was sort of aghast at it. And he said that his wife saw it on like a nature documentary.

Fresh Air
Baby Bonuses, Trad Wives & The Pronatalist Movement

that this is what a lioness was doing to her cubs, and they thought that was good. Tigers. It was tigers. Yes, there you go. So I'm thinking to myself, wow, data-driven. I'm like, well, as a family sociologist and demographer, I can tell you there's a whole lot of research on corporal punishment and child outcomes and well-being. So that data was, I think, inconvenient.

Fresh Air
Baby Bonuses, Trad Wives & The Pronatalist Movement

that this is what a lioness was doing to her cubs, and they thought that was good. Tigers. It was tigers. Yes, there you go. So I'm thinking to myself, wow, data-driven. I'm like, well, as a family sociologist and demographer, I can tell you there's a whole lot of research on corporal punishment and child outcomes and well-being. So that data was, I think, inconvenient.

Fresh Air
Baby Bonuses, Trad Wives & The Pronatalist Movement

that this is what a lioness was doing to her cubs, and they thought that was good. Tigers. It was tigers. Yes, there you go. So I'm thinking to myself, wow, data-driven. I'm like, well, as a family sociologist and demographer, I can tell you there's a whole lot of research on corporal punishment and child outcomes and well-being. So that data was, I think, inconvenient.

Fresh Air
Baby Bonuses, Trad Wives & The Pronatalist Movement

So they are data-driven when it's convenient and not data-driven when it doesn't fit their brand. Right.

Fresh Air
Baby Bonuses, Trad Wives & The Pronatalist Movement

So they are data-driven when it's convenient and not data-driven when it doesn't fit their brand. Right.

Fresh Air
Baby Bonuses, Trad Wives & The Pronatalist Movement

So they are data-driven when it's convenient and not data-driven when it doesn't fit their brand. Right.

Fresh Air
Baby Bonuses, Trad Wives & The Pronatalist Movement

I really think it's a term we bandy around a lot in the United States, which is Christian nationalism. So it's evangelical Christians who have a very specific view of what family looks like and that it's not just religion, but it's specifically sort of Christian evangelist. And they are worried about the sanctity of life.

Fresh Air
Baby Bonuses, Trad Wives & The Pronatalist Movement

I really think it's a term we bandy around a lot in the United States, which is Christian nationalism. So it's evangelical Christians who have a very specific view of what family looks like and that it's not just religion, but it's specifically sort of Christian evangelist. And they are worried about the sanctity of life.

Fresh Air
Baby Bonuses, Trad Wives & The Pronatalist Movement

I really think it's a term we bandy around a lot in the United States, which is Christian nationalism. So it's evangelical Christians who have a very specific view of what family looks like and that it's not just religion, but it's specifically sort of Christian evangelist. And they are worried about the sanctity of life.

Fresh Air
Baby Bonuses, Trad Wives & The Pronatalist Movement

So they're going after IVF, but they're also even going after certain types of contraception, thinking that they cause abortion. They would like to get those outlawed. They would like to, again, move against different types of mifepristone coverage or access to mifepristone, which is one of the medication abortion pills.

Fresh Air
Baby Bonuses, Trad Wives & The Pronatalist Movement

So they're going after IVF, but they're also even going after certain types of contraception, thinking that they cause abortion. They would like to get those outlawed. They would like to, again, move against different types of mifepristone coverage or access to mifepristone, which is one of the medication abortion pills.

Fresh Air
Baby Bonuses, Trad Wives & The Pronatalist Movement

So they're going after IVF, but they're also even going after certain types of contraception, thinking that they cause abortion. They would like to get those outlawed. They would like to, again, move against different types of mifepristone coverage or access to mifepristone, which is one of the medication abortion pills.

Fresh Air
Baby Bonuses, Trad Wives & The Pronatalist Movement

They're really going after family planning writ large because they are worried about what it means when women can control their own reproduction.

Fresh Air
Baby Bonuses, Trad Wives & The Pronatalist Movement

They're really going after family planning writ large because they are worried about what it means when women can control their own reproduction.