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Dr. Karen Guzzo

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Fresh Air
Baby Bonuses, Trad Wives & The Pronatalist Movement

That halved child poverty, and we did not vote to expand it or continue it. And so the idea that we would be revisiting this in a different way on a much more limited basis is really concerning.

Fresh Air
Baby Bonuses, Trad Wives & The Pronatalist Movement

And even these birth bonuses they're considering, they're not available to everybody. What was neat about the American Rescue Plan is that it wasn't something that was just you got money back at taxes. You got $300 a month if you had a child under age six. And you didn't necessarily have to pay income taxes. They expanded eligibility for it. So it went to everybody.

Fresh Air
Baby Bonuses, Trad Wives & The Pronatalist Movement

And even these birth bonuses they're considering, they're not available to everybody. What was neat about the American Rescue Plan is that it wasn't something that was just you got money back at taxes. You got $300 a month if you had a child under age six. And you didn't necessarily have to pay income taxes. They expanded eligibility for it. So it went to everybody.

Fresh Air
Baby Bonuses, Trad Wives & The Pronatalist Movement

And even these birth bonuses they're considering, they're not available to everybody. What was neat about the American Rescue Plan is that it wasn't something that was just you got money back at taxes. You got $300 a month if you had a child under age six. And you didn't necessarily have to pay income taxes. They expanded eligibility for it. So it went to everybody.

Fresh Air
Baby Bonuses, Trad Wives & The Pronatalist Movement

These new plans they're talking about, they're not going to give them to poor women, to the people who would really need them most. They are again trying to say, no, no, only some people should be having kids.

Fresh Air
Baby Bonuses, Trad Wives & The Pronatalist Movement

These new plans they're talking about, they're not going to give them to poor women, to the people who would really need them most. They are again trying to say, no, no, only some people should be having kids.

Fresh Air
Baby Bonuses, Trad Wives & The Pronatalist Movement

These new plans they're talking about, they're not going to give them to poor women, to the people who would really need them most. They are again trying to say, no, no, only some people should be having kids.

Fresh Air
Baby Bonuses, Trad Wives & The Pronatalist Movement

So the country that probably has had the most effective fertility plans is actually probably Israel because it makes IVF really widely available. So when people delay having kids, in part because they're getting education, they're building careers, that does seem to help Israel. But most of these other programs, they're very careful about how they extend them.

Fresh Air
Baby Bonuses, Trad Wives & The Pronatalist Movement

So the country that probably has had the most effective fertility plans is actually probably Israel because it makes IVF really widely available. So when people delay having kids, in part because they're getting education, they're building careers, that does seem to help Israel. But most of these other programs, they're very careful about how they extend them.

Fresh Air
Baby Bonuses, Trad Wives & The Pronatalist Movement

So the country that probably has had the most effective fertility plans is actually probably Israel because it makes IVF really widely available. So when people delay having kids, in part because they're getting education, they're building careers, that does seem to help Israel. But most of these other programs, they're very careful about how they extend them.

Fresh Air
Baby Bonuses, Trad Wives & The Pronatalist Movement

So many of these countries, again, don't give the benefits to single women or unmarried women, LGBTQ families. They don't have big impacts. They help a little bit on the margins, but for the cost of them, they are not having big impacts. But the ones that matter most are the things that actually make it easier for people to combine work and family.

Fresh Air
Baby Bonuses, Trad Wives & The Pronatalist Movement

So many of these countries, again, don't give the benefits to single women or unmarried women, LGBTQ families. They don't have big impacts. They help a little bit on the margins, but for the cost of them, they are not having big impacts. But the ones that matter most are the things that actually make it easier for people to combine work and family.

Fresh Air
Baby Bonuses, Trad Wives & The Pronatalist Movement

So many of these countries, again, don't give the benefits to single women or unmarried women, LGBTQ families. They don't have big impacts. They help a little bit on the margins, but for the cost of them, they are not having big impacts. But the ones that matter most are the things that actually make it easier for people to combine work and family.

Fresh Air
Baby Bonuses, Trad Wives & The Pronatalist Movement

So one of the things that people worry about is if we offer, quote unquote, too generous of a social safety net, people won't work. There's not a lot of evidence for that. People generally want to work. When they have kids, they want to work a little bit less. They want to stay home more, which is something we all think that would be great for kids.

Fresh Air
Baby Bonuses, Trad Wives & The Pronatalist Movement

So one of the things that people worry about is if we offer, quote unquote, too generous of a social safety net, people won't work. There's not a lot of evidence for that. People generally want to work. When they have kids, they want to work a little bit less. They want to stay home more, which is something we all think that would be great for kids.

Fresh Air
Baby Bonuses, Trad Wives & The Pronatalist Movement

So one of the things that people worry about is if we offer, quote unquote, too generous of a social safety net, people won't work. There's not a lot of evidence for that. People generally want to work. When they have kids, they want to work a little bit less. They want to stay home more, which is something we all think that would be great for kids.

Fresh Air
Baby Bonuses, Trad Wives & The Pronatalist Movement

We know that actually having parental leave is great for kids and for bonding, and it's good for both mothers and fathers. But investing in a robust child care infrastructure is really important.

Fresh Air
Baby Bonuses, Trad Wives & The Pronatalist Movement

We know that actually having parental leave is great for kids and for bonding, and it's good for both mothers and fathers. But investing in a robust child care infrastructure is really important.

Fresh Air
Baby Bonuses, Trad Wives & The Pronatalist Movement

We know that actually having parental leave is great for kids and for bonding, and it's good for both mothers and fathers. But investing in a robust child care infrastructure is really important.

Fresh Air
Baby Bonuses, Trad Wives & The Pronatalist Movement

Yeah, so that's interesting. So Sweden has also seen a decline in fertility. And so when I was giving interviews, you know, 10, 15 years ago, I'd say, oh, I wish we could be Sweden. That would help us. And of course, they've seen these declines, too. What I will say is Sweden's fertility rate is much, much, much better than Japan or China or South Korea.