Dr. Layne Norton

They actually see diet soda produce more weight loss than water.

Now, it's not because diet soda is a fat burner or anything like that.

It's probably because...

People are seeking out that sweet taste somewhere else when they have water, right?

They still lost weight with the water group.

Like it wasn't – and it wasn't a big difference from the water and diet soda group.

But you can't really say – like you can make all the arguments you want about like brain signaling and whatever.

But obviously it doesn't matter enough because these people are losing weight.

And the other thing I've heard is, well, it causes an insulin response.

OK.

There are several meta-analyses now to show that that doesn't happen with any of the sweeteners that we know of.

There was one study where they gave sucralose alone, sucralose plus carbohydrate or carbohydrate alone and saw sucralose plus carbohydrate caused a greater insulin response.

But in my opinion, that study was not an appropriate control group because they were matching sweet taste between the sucralose plus carbohydrate group and the carbohydrate group because I think their primary measure was actually like –

Sweet taste in the brain, looking at that.

And then this other stuff was secondary measures.

So they did the right thing by trying to match taste or sweetness level.

But the problem is, I believe, I don't think, I think they used sucrose.

for the carbohydrate-only group and they use maltodextrin for carbohydrate plus sucralose because maltodextrin is not as sweet as sucrose, but it has a much greater glycemic response than sucrose does.

And so I don't think you can really say it's like saying it's carbohydrate plus sucralose.

No, it's maltodextrin plus sucralose.