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Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov

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Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov

And she was using basically an equivalent of an emery in a mixture or slurry. And I was just grinding. There was stone on a stick, so she used. And to polish the surface, she also used stones. So I think it's quite possible to make a vase like this in a general sense, in a general shape and form, using stone tools alone and without resorting to any copper.

Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov

And she was using basically an equivalent of an emery in a mixture or slurry. And I was just grinding. There was stone on a stick, so she used. And to polish the surface, she also used stones. So I think it's quite possible to make a vase like this in a general sense, in a general shape and form, using stone tools alone and without resorting to any copper.

Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov

Because frankly, I don't see how copper would be any good. Because she was even drilling holes in the lugs with a wooden drill. wooden stick, basically, that was tipped with the stone. Because copper is just, you know, too soft, yes. So you need a stone. And if you use like copper for a holder, it's no better than a stick. And copper was expensive at the time, so stick is cheap, you know.

Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov

Because frankly, I don't see how copper would be any good. Because she was even drilling holes in the lugs with a wooden drill. wooden stick, basically, that was tipped with the stone. Because copper is just, you know, too soft, yes. So you need a stone. And if you use like copper for a holder, it's no better than a stick. And copper was expensive at the time, so stick is cheap, you know.

Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov

Because frankly, I don't see how copper would be any good. Because she was even drilling holes in the lugs with a wooden drill. wooden stick, basically, that was tipped with the stone. Because copper is just, you know, too soft, yes. So you need a stone. And if you use like copper for a holder, it's no better than a stick. And copper was expensive at the time, so stick is cheap, you know.

Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov

So I don't see copper as being in a useful manufacturing material, unless you're maybe working on limestone. because limestone or marble is soft enough, it's basically chalk. It's slightly more, you know, dense than chalk, and that you can cut with a copper saw. So that's where the copper saw would be beneficial, because you can actually cut it.

Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov

So I don't see copper as being in a useful manufacturing material, unless you're maybe working on limestone. because limestone or marble is soft enough, it's basically chalk. It's slightly more, you know, dense than chalk, and that you can cut with a copper saw. So that's where the copper saw would be beneficial, because you can actually cut it.

Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov

So I don't see copper as being in a useful manufacturing material, unless you're maybe working on limestone. because limestone or marble is soft enough, it's basically chalk. It's slightly more, you know, dense than chalk, and that you can cut with a copper saw. So that's where the copper saw would be beneficial, because you can actually cut it.

Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov

A bronze saw would be better, but I think with copper you could. But, you know, with these hard stones, you know, copper is useless. And you really need other stones to cut it. And to hold another stone, you use a stick. So I think that explains, to me at least, you know, why we don't see much copper, or why we shouldn't be expecting to see much copper.

Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov

A bronze saw would be better, but I think with copper you could. But, you know, with these hard stones, you know, copper is useless. And you really need other stones to cut it. And to hold another stone, you use a stick. So I think that explains, to me at least, you know, why we don't see much copper, or why we shouldn't be expecting to see much copper.

Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov

A bronze saw would be better, but I think with copper you could. But, you know, with these hard stones, you know, copper is useless. And you really need other stones to cut it. And to hold another stone, you use a stick. So I think that explains, to me at least, you know, why we don't see much copper, or why we shouldn't be expecting to see much copper.

Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov

Yeah, and just adding real quick, you're quite right, so coring with copper tube, you know, makes total sense. And in fact, you know, the scientists against myth have shown that you can core granite with copper tubing, because it's not the copper that does the cutting, it's the emery or, you know, sand or quartz crystals, they do. And copper is just a holder, and you, you know, just twist it and

Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov

Yeah, and just adding real quick, you're quite right, so coring with copper tube, you know, makes total sense. And in fact, you know, the scientists against myth have shown that you can core granite with copper tubing, because it's not the copper that does the cutting, it's the emery or, you know, sand or quartz crystals, they do. And copper is just a holder, and you, you know, just twist it and

Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov

Yeah, and just adding real quick, you're quite right, so coring with copper tube, you know, makes total sense. And in fact, you know, the scientists against myth have shown that you can core granite with copper tubing, because it's not the copper that does the cutting, it's the emery or, you know, sand or quartz crystals, they do. And copper is just a holder, and you, you know, just twist it and

Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov

quartz grinds on granite, and of course, you know, you make a hole. So that makes sense. So perhaps, you know, some of these vases were cored in the same way, but then, you know, they were polished and machined further. So whatever traces of that initial core is gone. So if there was any copper left on it, you know, all that layer was removed.

Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov

quartz grinds on granite, and of course, you know, you make a hole. So that makes sense. So perhaps, you know, some of these vases were cored in the same way, but then, you know, they were polished and machined further. So whatever traces of that initial core is gone. So if there was any copper left on it, you know, all that layer was removed.

Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov

quartz grinds on granite, and of course, you know, you make a hole. So that makes sense. So perhaps, you know, some of these vases were cored in the same way, but then, you know, they were polished and machined further. So whatever traces of that initial core is gone. So if there was any copper left on it, you know, all that layer was removed.

Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov

So there could be hope in, like, if you find an artifact where the core was broken off and the bottom wasn't quite, you know, cleaned or machined or processed, you know, to the final shape, I would expect to find something there. And that's why I'm interested in looking into these, you know, various cuts, because you need to have a baseline.

Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov

So there could be hope in, like, if you find an artifact where the core was broken off and the bottom wasn't quite, you know, cleaned or machined or processed, you know, to the final shape, I would expect to find something there. And that's why I'm interested in looking into these, you know, various cuts, because you need to have a baseline.

Matt Beall Limitless
Impossible Precision: A Scientific Study of Ancient Egyptian Stone Vessels | #45 Dr. Max Fomitchev-Zamilov

So there could be hope in, like, if you find an artifact where the core was broken off and the bottom wasn't quite, you know, cleaned or machined or processed, you know, to the final shape, I would expect to find something there. And that's why I'm interested in looking into these, you know, various cuts, because you need to have a baseline.