Dr. Nicole Saphier
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first heard Jun 2025
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And I'm happy to see that he is actually losing some weight. I think his cholesterol improved. He's trending in the right way. He's doing everything right as you can or as you know, as we would like to see. He's getting all of his cancer screenings. So I think, you know, he is physically and mentally fit. We'll see how he does at his next annual examination.
Which I do not recommend, though. I don't recommend that.
Well, one of the things, as you know, for longevity is to continuously switch back and forth between the right and the left brain. And President Trump certainly does that with everything that he is doing. He is constantly being very active, you know, trying not to be patronizing. The only thing I would say to him is sometimes say what you want to say, but then stop.
You don't have to keep going in what you're saying. And maybe that'll just help with some of the criticism because I'm always like, yes, yes. Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait, back up. Hold on. No need to just, just leave it at that.
You know, this is obviously very complicated. And the problem is that a lot of physicians don't want to make the decisions, whether it's because of liability. They don't want to be sued if they make the wrong decision or whatnot. But a lot of physicians point to these recommendations. So therefore, they can point back to that if something goes wrong down the road.
I mean, that is what my assumption is there. Dr. Marty McCary, who's a friend and a colleague of mine, he and I, we were in constant communication all throughout the COVID pandemic. And one of the things that I was extremely concerned about was the COVID vaccine in kids. Obviously, I'm a physician, but I'm also a mom of three.
And one thing that I was really concerned about was we saw that the risk in kids, specifically healthy kids, was very low. But what we did see were those rare cases of MIS-C or those inflammatory conditions that happened after the fact from the virus.
My concern was if we are now giving them a vaccine, which is a high dose, which is meant to cause an inflammatory reaction, are we going to actually incite MIS-C in a healthy kid who probably wouldn't have even gotten it if they had gotten the infection? And so he and I went back and forth with this for a while.
We even published, co-published an article together in the New England Journal of Medicine. Yeah. No, Wall Street Journal. Sorry. It's been a long day. Wall Street Journal essentially breaking down the risks of a COVID infection in a kid as well as the vaccine risks in the kid.
And from what I saw was the risk was so low from a COVID infection, the risk was still low from the COVID vaccine from the data that Pfizer and Moderna had given us at that time, you know, it was probably equivocal, but if it's an equivocal risk, why would you risk it at all? Why wouldn't you just, we knew at that point, everyone was gonna be infected with the virus.
So you might as well just go with that, have that risk. So I was always against vaccinating healthy young kids. I'm very happy to see at this point that they are removing it from the recommended vaccine schedule So I want to talk to you, McCary, a little bit more.
And actually, he's sitting down with me next week and we're going to have an in-depth conversation about what led to the actual removal. Was it a reevaluation of the data and showing that it wasn't, you know, it should never have been on the market to begin with? Or do they have new data that we are not privy to yet? And so that's what I want to see.
I think we had that data years ago. We did have that data. We had the safety signals. We had Israel that were warning us. well before we even approved it in kids. So we had the data. Why did it take so long? Is it just because an administration changed or really did something new come up? And I think I know the answer to that, but I want to ask him.
Panic Attack. So I wrote this during COVID. I actually started writing it in May of 2020. And one of the things, you know, it's always funny when you do something and then now four years later, it's like, oh, look at that. I said that I was right. It's nice when you get proven right on certain things. I have a whole chapter about breaking down the viral genetic structure and
and how it made the most sense that it was a human modified virus and the most plausible cause of the origin was an accidental leak from the Wuhan Institute of Virology. And so it has just been wonderful to see that play out over the last few years because I really broke it down to the granular level on why this made sense then.
And then on top of it, I talked about how essentially the mask mandates All the other stuff that we did from a data perspective, it really didn't move the needle much at all.
And how moving forward, we have to be very wary about these mandates and everything else that comes along with it because we completely botched this pandemic and unfortunately have created a massive environment of mistrust when it comes to public health. Look what's happening right now.
You have the secretary of HHS, the commissioner of FDA and the NIH director, Dr. Bhattacharya, all coming out and saying, you know, healthy kids don't need this vaccine. But now you have societies going against them. And we have a lot of back and forth and we do not have a cohesive approach.
I was just going to say that we saw this as early as Delta, that people were getting their boosters and they were still getting infected three months later. I mean, at that point, what are we doing? We cannot booster into perpetuity and still be doing that when this virus is just continuing to change and mutate and becoming less and less severe. It's enough.
Well, I do think that that's something that's being studied. I think the FDA at this point wants that essentially because people trust that a little bit more. But you're absolutely right. I mean, the spike protein, I mean, we're starting to see studies now that they continue to say, oh, well, you know, the infection causes the strokes and maybe even some delayed Parkinson's disease.
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