Dr. Randy Bach
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Sodagate: How Shady “Big Soda” Lobbying Firms Allegedly Invaded MAHA Via Influencer “Bribes” w/ Tom Renz & Dr. Randy Bock – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 469
That was me. I apologize. There we are. Now you're in. Thank you so much, Dr. Drew. I had myself muted so I wouldn't step on anybody's toes during the excellent Tom Renz interview. Thank you so much for that.
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Sodagate: How Shady “Big Soda” Lobbying Firms Allegedly Invaded MAHA Via Influencer “Bribes” w/ Tom Renz & Dr. Randy Bock – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 469
Tell me about it. I think it's a topic that, yeah, I'd love that. I mean, you're far more expert on these topics than I am, but I think I try to bring kind of an outsider perspective to whatever I do. It doesn't always work at home. I mean, my wife expects me to have insider respect with our marriage, but for many other things I try to do.
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Sodagate: How Shady “Big Soda” Lobbying Firms Allegedly Invaded MAHA Via Influencer “Bribes” w/ Tom Renz & Dr. Randy Bock – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 469
Yeah, you mentioned the null hypothesis, and I actually used that term just earlier today. I was communicating with Dr. Nicholas Christakis, MD, PhD, maybe MA, I don't know. He's a multi-credentialed guy, a professor. He kind of got attacked by the woke mob in 2015 at Yale University, near and dear to my heart. I remember this. Yeah.
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Sodagate: How Shady “Big Soda” Lobbying Firms Allegedly Invaded MAHA Via Influencer “Bribes” w/ Tom Renz & Dr. Randy Bock – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 469
And so we had a little bit of communique because I had written an article recently in Brownstone for whom I write regularly. And thank you, Jeffrey Tucker. And it was about, you know, kind of China 2020, all that kind of stuff. And I, you know, I'd made a judgment about what he had written. Anyway, long story short. he wrote back recently that he's going to look into the Zika thing himself.
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Sodagate: How Shady “Big Soda” Lobbying Firms Allegedly Invaded MAHA Via Influencer “Bribes” w/ Tom Renz & Dr. Randy Bock – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 469
But I was using the null hypothesis concept with him that you really just can't look at the Zika phenomenon. You have to kind of look at it with an open mind. And that's what I think people don't do enough of with a lot of these things.
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Sodagate: How Shady “Big Soda” Lobbying Firms Allegedly Invaded MAHA Via Influencer “Bribes” w/ Tom Renz & Dr. Randy Bock – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 469
That's a great point. You know, science gets applied to a lot of things. I mean, I know lots of my, you know, contemporaries, kids, you know, are studying political science. And maybe there's some science to that, and there's social science. But science, you know, kind of has two terms. I mean, there's the body of knowledge. Science, you know, refers to knowledge like conscience and whatnot.
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Sodagate: How Shady “Big Soda” Lobbying Firms Allegedly Invaded MAHA Via Influencer “Bribes” w/ Tom Renz & Dr. Randy Bock – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 469
But there's also the collection process, which has to, you know, fall under kind of reproducibility. You know, there's this gravity thing. And every time I drop this, it'll happen over and over again, unless there's a strong wind. You know, this is pretty much reproducible, improvable. But not many things wind up having that kind of rigor of reproducibility.
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Sodagate: How Shady “Big Soda” Lobbying Firms Allegedly Invaded MAHA Via Influencer “Bribes” w/ Tom Renz & Dr. Randy Bock – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 469
I was just speaking with Jacob Rich, who writes for Reason. There's a tongue twister there. And he was talking about, you know, he's been going over a lot of these kind of meta-analytic studies. And, you know, it's GIGO, garbage in, garbage out. People have, you know, the answers they want, and then they put stuff in, and they wind up getting, you know, whatever they can kind of come out with,
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Sodagate: How Shady “Big Soda” Lobbying Firms Allegedly Invaded MAHA Via Influencer “Bribes” w/ Tom Renz & Dr. Randy Bock – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 469
And I think you pointed that to the first part of this interview, when you're talking about kind of parsing out, you know, death data, because people put in what they want to at the time. And you really, you know, it's kind of like trying to untangle, you know, the spaghetti. It's harder, you know, it's easy at the beginning, it's hard at the end. It's all mixed up together.
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Sodagate: How Shady “Big Soda” Lobbying Firms Allegedly Invaded MAHA Via Influencer “Bribes” w/ Tom Renz & Dr. Randy Bock – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 469
And these things, you know, kind of get... But, you know, I don't want to divert from our time here.
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Sodagate: How Shady “Big Soda” Lobbying Firms Allegedly Invaded MAHA Via Influencer “Bribes” w/ Tom Renz & Dr. Randy Bock – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 469
So, simply as possible. So you're going to have to specify the question a little bit for me. The military aspect of COVID, military aspect of controlling health.
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Sodagate: How Shady “Big Soda” Lobbying Firms Allegedly Invaded MAHA Via Influencer “Bribes” w/ Tom Renz & Dr. Randy Bock – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 469
Well, the thing that got me interested in this aspect, I've been writing for Mr. Tucker for quite some time now. And I wrote a few different articles on Dr. Fauci and kind of the moment. I think both he and I are interested in the moment.
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Sodagate: How Shady “Big Soda” Lobbying Firms Allegedly Invaded MAHA Via Influencer “Bribes” w/ Tom Renz & Dr. Randy Bock – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 469
that Donald Trump turned from somebody reasonably rational about COVID as a bad flu without say a flu shot in advance into somebody that saw this as a bioweapon. And there's a lot kind of written on this topic. I don't think as much of it's kind of generally known, but right around the Ides of March, not too far from where we are, March 13th or so, Trump kind of came in like spring and winter.
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Sodagate: How Shady “Big Soda” Lobbying Firms Allegedly Invaded MAHA Via Influencer “Bribes” w/ Tom Renz & Dr. Randy Bock – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 469
He came in like a lamb, he left like a lion. He kind of closed, locked everything down after proclaiming quite the opposite prior to that. And, you know, people trying to, you know, recollect the records show that there were, you know, aspects of this that were, you know, referred to the military.
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Sodagate: How Shady “Big Soda” Lobbying Firms Allegedly Invaded MAHA Via Influencer “Bribes” w/ Tom Renz & Dr. Randy Bock – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 469
And a lot of the COVID, you know, Operation Warp Speed, a lot of the responses that happened, you know, had military fingerprints on. So they, you know, a lot of these things were done under security directives. I'm not particularly expert on that. But what I have been working on is kind of like the ancillary aspects of how things were promulgated and kept forward on a kind of a high heat level.
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Sodagate: How Shady “Big Soda” Lobbying Firms Allegedly Invaded MAHA Via Influencer “Bribes” w/ Tom Renz & Dr. Randy Bock – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 469
And in a sense to kind of satisfy a little bit of the emergency statutes. I mean, the fact that we had kind of this emergency use authorization, the nation was under emergency, had a military aspect to it. And, you know, what we wound up seeing was, you know, kind of the forbearance of interim therapeutics.
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Sodagate: How Shady “Big Soda” Lobbying Firms Allegedly Invaded MAHA Via Influencer “Bribes” w/ Tom Renz & Dr. Randy Bock – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 469
You know, if we had been like for HIV, just waiting for a vaccine, you know, we'd be waiting, you know, 30, 40 years later for that vaccine. Therapeutics have a clear role in, you know, dangerous viruses and emergent virus and so forth. And we did not do that. We abjured doing that in order to keep the pressure on to have the emergency use put on.
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Sodagate: How Shady “Big Soda” Lobbying Firms Allegedly Invaded MAHA Via Influencer “Bribes” w/ Tom Renz & Dr. Randy Bock – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 469
The article, you know, I've written a few articles recently on kind of this ancillary aspect of the kind of militarization of health. And so the most recent article on this topic is called, it's really prosaic, it's ASPR and BARDA. which are two organizations under HHS, bureaucratic dysfunction and biodefense. So what we have here is a world, frankly, of Dr. Fauci's devising.
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Sodagate: How Shady “Big Soda” Lobbying Firms Allegedly Invaded MAHA Via Influencer “Bribes” w/ Tom Renz & Dr. Randy Bock – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 469
After the 2001, I don't want to get too deep in the weeds here, but 2001, it was 9-11. And then people may remember this thing, Amerithrax. It was this anthrax spreading, and it went to politicians and whatnot. And after that, the culmination of that was basically kind of the...
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Sodagate: How Shady “Big Soda” Lobbying Firms Allegedly Invaded MAHA Via Influencer “Bribes” w/ Tom Renz & Dr. Randy Bock – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 469
The expansion, frankly, the doubling of Dr. Fauci's realm and regime, and his salary, he went from kind of $200,000 to almost $500,000. He remained the highest paid employee. People wonder why. Is he there for a while? No, because he basically did a military operation. He took over, basically duplicated the DOD's biodefense weapon industry.
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Sodagate: How Shady “Big Soda” Lobbying Firms Allegedly Invaded MAHA Via Influencer “Bribes” w/ Tom Renz & Dr. Randy Bock – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 469
aspect, kind of the microbiology weapon warfare, on which we've spent probably all told more than we've ever done on nuclear weapons.
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Sodagate: How Shady “Big Soda” Lobbying Firms Allegedly Invaded MAHA Via Influencer “Bribes” w/ Tom Renz & Dr. Randy Bock – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 469
Yes, I did.
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Sodagate: How Shady “Big Soda” Lobbying Firms Allegedly Invaded MAHA Via Influencer “Bribes” w/ Tom Renz & Dr. Randy Bock – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 469
That's amazing.
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Sodagate: How Shady “Big Soda” Lobbying Firms Allegedly Invaded MAHA Via Influencer “Bribes” w/ Tom Renz & Dr. Randy Bock – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 469
Well, you make a great point. The question is, who's us, Kimo Sabe? It's like, there's us, us.
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Sodagate: How Shady “Big Soda” Lobbying Firms Allegedly Invaded MAHA Via Influencer “Bribes” w/ Tom Renz & Dr. Randy Bock – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 469
Tonto. Tonto.
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Sodagate: How Shady “Big Soda” Lobbying Firms Allegedly Invaded MAHA Via Influencer “Bribes” w/ Tom Renz & Dr. Randy Bock – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 469
That's a crazy question.
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Sodagate: How Shady “Big Soda” Lobbying Firms Allegedly Invaded MAHA Via Influencer “Bribes” w/ Tom Renz & Dr. Randy Bock – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 469
Go ahead and ask it.
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Sodagate: How Shady “Big Soda” Lobbying Firms Allegedly Invaded MAHA Via Influencer “Bribes” w/ Tom Renz & Dr. Randy Bock – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 469
You probably played a game of risk where you kind of accumulate the countries and you try to get your pieces on all parts of the board. It's not that different in Monopoly or whatever. It's in history again, yes, yes. And amongst the bureaucracies, they have the same kind of thing. Dr. Fauci made this move from just NIAID to getting a piece of the DOD and
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Sodagate: How Shady “Big Soda” Lobbying Firms Allegedly Invaded MAHA Via Influencer “Bribes” w/ Tom Renz & Dr. Randy Bock – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 469
under NIAID and informed ASPR and then BARDA. And so this is kind of a move that was extracurricular, not necessary, duplicative, but expensive, but he did okay by it. I would just make that as a template for what happened since. You know, there's been kind of a lot of bleed, no pun intended, between one agency and another and between locales. And what can't get done here gets done elsewhere.
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Sodagate: How Shady “Big Soda” Lobbying Firms Allegedly Invaded MAHA Via Influencer “Bribes” w/ Tom Renz & Dr. Randy Bock – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 469
I think there's a lot of what's called the technical term is instrumentalism. It's kind of like small f fascism, where you anneal, you bring together the government and corporations and for some greater good. And this was Mussolini's idea of kind of perverting the Roman fascia, which was there for all the people together to be strong together. But this was outsourcing things you couldn't do here.
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Sodagate: How Shady “Big Soda” Lobbying Firms Allegedly Invaded MAHA Via Influencer “Bribes” w/ Tom Renz & Dr. Randy Bock – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 469
So he was very much for a goal. The ends justify the means. And the means didn't matter. And he'd spread the money anywhere. And he would kind of violate statutes we might have here so he could do them elsewhere. And then if you remember Mad Magazine, there was Spy vs. Spy. Antonio Prohias from Cuba had a wonderful series, great, great books. My kids were entertained for years. And I was...
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Sodagate: How Shady “Big Soda” Lobbying Firms Allegedly Invaded MAHA Via Influencer “Bribes” w/ Tom Renz & Dr. Randy Bock – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 469
But this is kind of what's happening between EcoHealth Alliance and Wuhan Lab. We had EcoHealth Alliance basically as a shell carve out of the CIA to watch them. But they weren't gonna let us be there unless we kind of had the candy, which is better technology than they had.
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Sodagate: How Shady “Big Soda” Lobbying Firms Allegedly Invaded MAHA Via Influencer “Bribes” w/ Tom Renz & Dr. Randy Bock – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 469
So we are supplying a lot of these kind of instrumental jumps that these other countries might have to form bioweapons so we can watch them. So it's kind of like, You know, we are watching the watchers, they're watching us.
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Sodagate: How Shady “Big Soda” Lobbying Firms Allegedly Invaded MAHA Via Influencer “Bribes” w/ Tom Renz & Dr. Randy Bock – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 469
It becomes this kind of hall of mirrors where we have to ask, you know, validly if we're performing a reasonable function by kind of like bringing the things that they might not have been able to achieve on their own. I see this mirrored in the USAID that we're spending money, we're doing stuff, but it is for the general good, is to reflect on our own values and whatnot.
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Sodagate: How Shady “Big Soda” Lobbying Firms Allegedly Invaded MAHA Via Influencer “Bribes” w/ Tom Renz & Dr. Randy Bock – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 469
And I'm not sure that's the case with a lot of these biodefense things. watch them. If they're going to do something, we might have an early warning system. But I think that the model that I think is very dangerous and interesting and analogous to this is what China did with our automotive industry.
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Sodagate: How Shady “Big Soda” Lobbying Firms Allegedly Invaded MAHA Via Influencer “Bribes” w/ Tom Renz & Dr. Randy Bock – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 469
A lot of people went over bright eyed and bushy tail and naive to China, Ford, General Motors, to make car plants thinking they were going to take some big piece of the China market. It's a huge market, billion people and so forth, and growing and whatnot. And what happened instead was they just basically
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Sodagate: How Shady “Big Soda” Lobbying Firms Allegedly Invaded MAHA Via Influencer “Bribes” w/ Tom Renz & Dr. Randy Bock – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 469
they kind of morphed their companies, they templated, they watched what we did, and they morphed, they built their own companies, they're like Cyanar, they put various regulations and tariffs up, and we couldn't sell there, and our share of market in China has diminished. And the same thing happened basically as a model for what happened in Wuhan.
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Sodagate: How Shady “Big Soda” Lobbying Firms Allegedly Invaded MAHA Via Influencer “Bribes” w/ Tom Renz & Dr. Randy Bock – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 469
They don't necessarily need us after a certain point, And they're not going to watch us and so forth. And what we wound up doing was kind of creating this byproduct, as you mentioned, possibly Lyme disease. But in this case, maybe the SARS-CoV-2. SARS-CoV-1, the original SARS, classic Coke SARS 2003 was bad enough. There are a lot of instructive aspects to that that we didn't take heed of.
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Sodagate: How Shady “Big Soda” Lobbying Firms Allegedly Invaded MAHA Via Influencer “Bribes” w/ Tom Renz & Dr. Randy Bock – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 469
We have basically taken the worst of the directives that China had and applied them here. I think Dr. Fauci and frankly a lot of public health people and maybe politicians in general have some envy of what China is able to do. The argument I had with Nicholas Christakis was I thought he had an overwhelming admiration
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Sodagate: How Shady “Big Soda” Lobbying Firms Allegedly Invaded MAHA Via Influencer “Bribes” w/ Tom Renz & Dr. Randy Bock – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 469
And kind of joy at the fact that China was able to clamp down and shut down society so completely thoroughly as if to kill off the virus and make the virus not replicate. And this is kind of a fallacy.
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Sodagate: How Shady “Big Soda” Lobbying Firms Allegedly Invaded MAHA Via Influencer “Bribes” w/ Tom Renz & Dr. Randy Bock – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 469
Well, it can't work, and all these people know better. Dr. Fauci himself said, in one of my Fauci articles, I think it's called Dr. Fauci's DNA of caring. That's because that's his own terminology. He's on an interview in NPR. You know, I just can't help from caring too much. I grew up in a pharmacy and I've got this DNA of caring. Like, well, dude, that's so awesome. You say that.
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Sodagate: How Shady “Big Soda” Lobbying Firms Allegedly Invaded MAHA Via Influencer “Bribes” w/ Tom Renz & Dr. Randy Bock – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 469
And I already, I listened to this interview maybe a couple of years, about a year ago. And he goes on to say, The lesson he learned from the HIV was that he didn't listen closely enough to the people in pain. And if he would go through some pandemic again, that he would be very careful to listen and try to react and be adaptive to what the people actually wanted.
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Sodagate: How Shady “Big Soda” Lobbying Firms Allegedly Invaded MAHA Via Influencer “Bribes” w/ Tom Renz & Dr. Randy Bock – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 469
He wouldn't want to restrict their freedoms. And this is like after he just locked us down based on kind of a misapprehension of Chinese communist data coming out, rather than looking at the Diamond Princess, which may not be perfect. you know, communist China overlap or overlay.
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Sodagate: How Shady “Big Soda” Lobbying Firms Allegedly Invaded MAHA Via Influencer “Bribes” w/ Tom Renz & Dr. Randy Bock – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 469
And I think, you know, getting to that seminal point where you asked about initially about the moment, you know, maybe it was a military kind of moment. I think it's, you know, I don't like, I'm not a conspiracy guy, but I am a conspiracy of interest guy. I think when something happens that people can fly to it and make it more important than it otherwise might've been.
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Sodagate: How Shady “Big Soda” Lobbying Firms Allegedly Invaded MAHA Via Influencer “Bribes” w/ Tom Renz & Dr. Randy Bock – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 469
So I don't think everyone thought, we're gonna derail Donald Trump by getting a virus and having it start in China and then having it be the one that was there 20 years before and we're gonna do this and this. And I don't think anybody thinks that deeply. But when something happens, you see it over and over again.
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Sodagate: How Shady “Big Soda” Lobbying Firms Allegedly Invaded MAHA Via Influencer “Bribes” w/ Tom Renz & Dr. Randy Bock – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 469
If something happens, a leak or whatever, a conversation with Ukraine, people try to manipulate that to their purposes. So I think what happened was that Dr. Fauci 1.0, would never have done this. But Dr. Fauci 2.0, probably because he was complicit in the fact that the Wuhan virus was released at all. We had spent money there and in Fort Detrick.
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Sodagate: How Shady “Big Soda” Lobbying Firms Allegedly Invaded MAHA Via Influencer “Bribes” w/ Tom Renz & Dr. Randy Bock – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 469
I emphasize the word fort, that's the military term. And that's where we're doing the same kind of research we had in Fort Detrick. in North Carolina, and we had it in Wuhan, China, which was also essentially military. Everything in China is military. So these are military operations in a sense, one form or another. Part of this biodefense aspect, that's what it grew out of.
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Sodagate: How Shady “Big Soda” Lobbying Firms Allegedly Invaded MAHA Via Influencer “Bribes” w/ Tom Renz & Dr. Randy Bock – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 469
That's where his interest grew. And the whole gain of function thing is basically a game of chicken to see how far you can get to the edge and come back and get information without falling over. And Dr. Fauci himself, I can't find this clip unless I imagined it. But at some point a few years ago, he said that he's invested in gain of function, all this kind of stuff.
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Sodagate: How Shady “Big Soda” Lobbying Firms Allegedly Invaded MAHA Via Influencer “Bribes” w/ Tom Renz & Dr. Randy Bock – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 469
And if some great pandemic happened, whatever, it'd still be worth it because he will have come up with cures ultimately. I think this is where he sees it.
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Sodagate: How Shady “Big Soda” Lobbying Firms Allegedly Invaded MAHA Via Influencer “Bribes” w/ Tom Renz & Dr. Randy Bock – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 469
And God knows mRNA might very well be a great invention down the line. It just shouldn't have been put out that prematurely. We had the other types of vaccines, kind of old style. Let me just- Or mandated.
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Sodagate: How Shady “Big Soda” Lobbying Firms Allegedly Invaded MAHA Via Influencer “Bribes” w/ Tom Renz & Dr. Randy Bock – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 469
Nobody's pushing back on that, there should be lawsuits on that. There's two things I would add to this, that after classic coke, SARS-1 in 2003, the Chinese worked devilishly hard at making a vaccine to it. They were unable to succeed, not because the science was that hard, but because there were problems with it.
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Sodagate: How Shady “Big Soda” Lobbying Firms Allegedly Invaded MAHA Via Influencer “Bribes” w/ Tom Renz & Dr. Randy Bock – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 469
There were secondary problems, it was antibody dependent enhancement, and they had this ferret population, little mink like animals and whatnot, they got sick. There were secondary issues with making this type of respiratory virus vaccine against the coronavirus. Probably because other coronaviruses are so prevalent. There's a second most commonly named cause of the common cold.
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Sodagate: How Shady “Big Soda” Lobbying Firms Allegedly Invaded MAHA Via Influencer “Bribes” w/ Tom Renz & Dr. Randy Bock – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 469
And there's a lot of coronavirus out there. So we probably have a lot of previous exposure and whatnot. But you make two excellent points. One would be, for me, would be to let people who aren't desperately ill, get sick with this because it wasn't that bad for kids and young adults. They barely even had symptoms.
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Sodagate: How Shady “Big Soda” Lobbying Firms Allegedly Invaded MAHA Via Influencer “Bribes” w/ Tom Renz & Dr. Randy Bock – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 469
That was the main information with the Diamond Princess, which was not controlled by the Chinese Communist Party. It had docked in Hong Kong, but was out in the ocean and people could watch this all they wanted to and see that nobody was getting sick. Even by March 15th or whatever, 13th, 2020, there had been maybe only one or two couple deaths. Median age, 82, and none in the acute phase.
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Sodagate: How Shady “Big Soda” Lobbying Firms Allegedly Invaded MAHA Via Influencer “Bribes” w/ Tom Renz & Dr. Randy Bock – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 469
None after two or three weeks, four weeks after the landfall, January 25th in China. So we had lots of evidence that old people were the only ones really to get problems from this, A. And B, young people were having... Kids had like zero symptoms at all. There were like 300 or 400 kids on that boat, and none of them even knew they had the problem. They were tested later.
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Sodagate: How Shady “Big Soda” Lobbying Firms Allegedly Invaded MAHA Via Influencer “Bribes” w/ Tom Renz & Dr. Randy Bock – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 469
They showed antibody positive and whatnot. So this was kind of all a malfeasance. And Dr... Fauci knew better than this. He actually spoke about the fact that natural immunity is the strongest immunity. Back in 2005 or 2006, there's a C-SPAN thing, and I'll do my Dr. Fauci again. He was asked, should I get the flu shot?
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Sodagate: How Shady “Big Soda” Lobbying Firms Allegedly Invaded MAHA Via Influencer “Bribes” w/ Tom Renz & Dr. Randy Bock – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 469
After I've had that year's flu, should I get this year's flu shot after that year's flu? And he said, there's no reason to get that because once you've had the illness, you've had the full exposure to the whole entire variant. And there's no reason, anyways, there's no reason to get a vaccine after the fact.
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Sodagate: How Shady “Big Soda” Lobbying Firms Allegedly Invaded MAHA Via Influencer “Bribes” w/ Tom Renz & Dr. Randy Bock – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 469
And mind you, it wouldn't even be as complete as the original. And then he violated all that by trotting out the same vaccine over and over again. I agree, I love it.
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Sodagate: How Shady “Big Soda” Lobbying Firms Allegedly Invaded MAHA Via Influencer “Bribes” w/ Tom Renz & Dr. Randy Bock – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 469
Like a Pfizer. I don't know the answer to that.
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Sodagate: How Shady “Big Soda” Lobbying Firms Allegedly Invaded MAHA Via Influencer “Bribes” w/ Tom Renz & Dr. Randy Bock – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 469
But I know that a lot of countries are taking off the coronavirus vaccine, the COVID vaccine for kids. There's no reason for kids to have it, ever, zero.
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Sodagate: How Shady “Big Soda” Lobbying Firms Allegedly Invaded MAHA Via Influencer “Bribes” w/ Tom Renz & Dr. Randy Bock – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 469
Yeah, no, I think money's fungible. I think you're giving money for goods. And if people wanna be clever about it, they can go buy an extra can of, can buy an extra slice of turkey and trade it for their cigarettes if they want to. I think people are clever enough to do that kind of stuff.
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Sodagate: How Shady “Big Soda” Lobbying Firms Allegedly Invaded MAHA Via Influencer “Bribes” w/ Tom Renz & Dr. Randy Bock – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 469
I don't think there's any reason to be, I think there's as a matter of messaging, there's no reason for people to have those type of things on their snap cards or wick or whatever you want to call it. It should be directed, but obviously can they do whatever they want? Yeah, people trade this stuff all the time. You know, the people are very clever.
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Sodagate: How Shady “Big Soda” Lobbying Firms Allegedly Invaded MAHA Via Influencer “Bribes” w/ Tom Renz & Dr. Randy Bock – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 469
Well, I find that tricky because you can grade health a lot of different ways. I'm not as interested in mandating a lot of these food choices and whatnot. I think people in the kind of greater debate out in the world, people make their own choices. The fact that we have so many different diets over different periods of time, it goes from one thing to another, from all vegetables to all meats.
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Sodagate: How Shady “Big Soda” Lobbying Firms Allegedly Invaded MAHA Via Influencer “Bribes” w/ Tom Renz & Dr. Randy Bock – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 469
I mean, I think that points out that we don't have the answer as far as that goes. And a lot of this, you know, comes down to a matter of taste. You know, some days, you know, even if I were like, you know, kind of a quasi, you know, vegetarian, I might still want a barbecue, you know, now and then.
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I think people should be allowed their reasonable choices and live their lives, you know, to a great extent. I mean, if you're having something that's hugely.
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Absolutely. No, I think you're making a very reasonable point. That's why we have a lot of these kind of like health directives and taxes. We do have a nannyistic, you know, tendency, all of us, you know, we want people to do the right thing. So we incentivize and disincentivize lots of things.
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There's cigarettes, you know, I think like in Massachusetts, like three or four dollars goes, you know, just to the state when you buy a pack of cigarettes. I don't buy any packs of cigarettes. I assume, you know, like a lot of it goes when you buy a lottery ticket. You know, 70% goes right to the state for a lottery ticket. I don't buy any. But people want to buy it.
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They want to have that thrill. I don't really care. They want to play the lottery. You know, it's kind of a tax on the, you know, innumerate. if you will, but fine, have at it. But a lot of these food choices, I think they'll play out ad hoc. People will kind of, I think there's a time when people are going to want to have a Coca-Cola, whatever. I don't really mind that they do that.
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And they should.
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Just Randy Bach. Just like the name, randybach.com.
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Well, I think what you're missing is the fact that WHO is funded by pharmaceutical companies. And I think this is a circle. It's kind of like the Lion King. And I'm not sure if it's a virtuous circle or vicious circle. But a lot of the funding comes from that.
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Once you get your, it's kind of like if you watch the golf leaderboard, once you get your preparation up on the WHO mandated list, you're like, you got a sinecure, you got kind of a money flow forever. And that's that. And that's kind of the point of the Zika book. Is to forestall that, because they're working on a Zika vaccine right now, frankly, in Baltimore.
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The Bloomberg School of Public Health, Johns Hopkins, Dr. Anna Durbin, she's finished up yet. For a couple of years now, she's been injecting and infecting women in Baltimore with Zika, so they can work on a Zika vaccine. And there's no real reason, there's no clamor for it. But I think the concept is, whether you're Takeda, Pfizer, Moderna, whatever, and you come up with this.
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Then you get it up on the leaderboard, WHO mandates, it says, everyone, this is a big thing, Zika microcephaly, it's a big problem. Nobody's disproven except for me, and I think I have. And so then once it's there, it's a billion dollar proposition forever. And there's gonna be no way of disproving the fact that it works.
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Because my father used to say he was the tiger catcher for the Bronx, he'd be at the bus station. And what do you do, Mr. Biden? He's an attorney, so he didn't want to tell anyone that. So he said, I'm the tiger cat. Well, there are no tigers in the Bronx. Like, well, see what a great job I'm doing? That was just kind of the standard joke.
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But once the Zika vaccine is there, then they're going to announce it's gone. But the thing is, it's been gone for the last decade, but they're still working on it. The fact that if they use the null hypothesis, that famous Dr. Drew Pinsky null hypothesis, then they would realize that there's no there there. As Gertrude Stein, the famous non-physician said. That's right.
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I love that. He can do a good Bernie Sanders too. I was hearing Bernie Sanders. I'll work on my Sanders. But Dr. Fauci, I mean, I have some affinity for him. I grew up in the Bronx. He was in Brooklyn. He's a smart guy. And again, I think there's Fauci 1.0 who's well-meaning.
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And Fauci's 2.0 had this CYA and CIA moment, cover your ass, and the CIA together, where he was complicit in a lot of the stuff that happened in Wuhan. And in order to kind of- He was such a-
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Thank you so much for everything you do, Dr. Drew.