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Dr. Victor Carrión

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Huberman Lab
How to Heal From Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) | Dr. Victor Carrión

All of this to say that they probably have a malfunctioning frontal striatal pathway and frontal limbic. So frontal limbic, I'm sorry. So if we think of the amygdala, for example, in close proximity to the hippocampus, being involved in this hypervigilance, and we have some data to show that the amygdala becomes active very quickly when you present emotional faces to young kids.

Huberman Lab
How to Heal From Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) | Dr. Victor Carrión

All of this to say that they probably have a malfunctioning frontal striatal pathway and frontal limbic. So frontal limbic, I'm sorry. So if we think of the amygdala, for example, in close proximity to the hippocampus, being involved in this hypervigilance, and we have some data to show that the amygdala becomes active very quickly when you present emotional faces to young kids.

Huberman Lab
How to Heal From Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) | Dr. Victor Carrión

All of this to say that they probably have a malfunctioning frontal striatal pathway and frontal limbic. So frontal limbic, I'm sorry. So if we think of the amygdala, for example, in close proximity to the hippocampus, being involved in this hypervigilance, and we have some data to show that the amygdala becomes active very quickly when you present emotional faces to young kids.

Huberman Lab
How to Heal From Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) | Dr. Victor Carrión

and that that hyperactive amygdala needs a break of some sort. That break comes from the prefrontal cortex. But if you have a prefrontal cortex that's not working that well either, then your break is not working. Right? So then the issue came here, well, this is important information to know what we need to target with treatment.

Huberman Lab
How to Heal From Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) | Dr. Victor Carrión

and that that hyperactive amygdala needs a break of some sort. That break comes from the prefrontal cortex. But if you have a prefrontal cortex that's not working that well either, then your break is not working. Right? So then the issue came here, well, this is important information to know what we need to target with treatment.

Huberman Lab
How to Heal From Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) | Dr. Victor Carrión

and that that hyperactive amygdala needs a break of some sort. That break comes from the prefrontal cortex. But if you have a prefrontal cortex that's not working that well either, then your break is not working. Right? So then the issue came here, well, this is important information to know what we need to target with treatment.

Huberman Lab
How to Heal From Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) | Dr. Victor Carrión

And can we target this with psychosocial interventions and the way that we provide treatment? And we decided to begin with what we discussed earlier with the cues, right? And teaching and having kids understand what cues are, what classical conditioning is, talking to them about the impact of trauma, talking to them about the impact of treatment and how recovery is possible, right?

Huberman Lab
How to Heal From Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) | Dr. Victor Carrión

And can we target this with psychosocial interventions and the way that we provide treatment? And we decided to begin with what we discussed earlier with the cues, right? And teaching and having kids understand what cues are, what classical conditioning is, talking to them about the impact of trauma, talking to them about the impact of treatment and how recovery is possible, right?

Huberman Lab
How to Heal From Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) | Dr. Victor Carrión

And can we target this with psychosocial interventions and the way that we provide treatment? And we decided to begin with what we discussed earlier with the cues, right? And teaching and having kids understand what cues are, what classical conditioning is, talking to them about the impact of trauma, talking to them about the impact of treatment and how recovery is possible, right?

Huberman Lab
How to Heal From Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) | Dr. Victor Carrión

So an educational piece. Something that I never thought I would end up doing was developing a treatment, right? I felt I'm here to investigate and use the treatments that we have. But it became very clear to me that there were a population of kids that still needed a form of treatment that was not out there.

Huberman Lab
How to Heal From Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) | Dr. Victor Carrión

So an educational piece. Something that I never thought I would end up doing was developing a treatment, right? I felt I'm here to investigate and use the treatments that we have. But it became very clear to me that there were a population of kids that still needed a form of treatment that was not out there.

Huberman Lab
How to Heal From Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) | Dr. Victor Carrión

So an educational piece. Something that I never thought I would end up doing was developing a treatment, right? I felt I'm here to investigate and use the treatments that we have. But it became very clear to me that there were a population of kids that still needed a form of treatment that was not out there.

Huberman Lab
How to Heal From Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) | Dr. Victor Carrión

So most treatments out there for trauma were targeting one traumatic event and not targeting that backpack, that allostatic load. Also, and rightfully so, most treatments were requiring that the parents were involved in treatment as well.

Huberman Lab
How to Heal From Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) | Dr. Victor Carrión

So most treatments out there for trauma were targeting one traumatic event and not targeting that backpack, that allostatic load. Also, and rightfully so, most treatments were requiring that the parents were involved in treatment as well.

Huberman Lab
How to Heal From Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) | Dr. Victor Carrión

So most treatments out there for trauma were targeting one traumatic event and not targeting that backpack, that allostatic load. Also, and rightfully so, most treatments were requiring that the parents were involved in treatment as well.

Huberman Lab
How to Heal From Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) | Dr. Victor Carrión

And also when there's avoidance, right? And also when there's practicalities that if they lose one day from work, they're going to get fired. So sometimes the parents are just not available and the kids are totally ready to begin and do the work. So I wanted them to be able to do so. So how can we devise a treatment that is hybrid, and by that I mean multimodal,

Huberman Lab
How to Heal From Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) | Dr. Victor Carrión

And also when there's avoidance, right? And also when there's practicalities that if they lose one day from work, they're going to get fired. So sometimes the parents are just not available and the kids are totally ready to begin and do the work. So I wanted them to be able to do so. So how can we devise a treatment that is hybrid, and by that I mean multimodal,

Huberman Lab
How to Heal From Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) | Dr. Victor Carrión

And also when there's avoidance, right? And also when there's practicalities that if they lose one day from work, they're going to get fired. So sometimes the parents are just not available and the kids are totally ready to begin and do the work. So I wanted them to be able to do so. So how can we devise a treatment that is hybrid, and by that I mean multimodal,

Huberman Lab
How to Heal From Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) | Dr. Victor Carrión

that is not only cognitive behavioral therapy, but that it brings other elements that are important, like self-efficacy, empowerment, insight-oriented work, and give it a structure that can be tested. And that's how we created Q Center, Q being C-E-U-E, Q Center Therapy. for kids that have PTSD.

Huberman Lab
How to Heal From Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) | Dr. Victor Carrión

that is not only cognitive behavioral therapy, but that it brings other elements that are important, like self-efficacy, empowerment, insight-oriented work, and give it a structure that can be tested. And that's how we created Q Center, Q being C-E-U-E, Q Center Therapy. for kids that have PTSD.