Elaine Pagels

I didn't think of my work as a relationship with faith exactly. It was more a relationship with curiosity. I had given up on faith, you know, much earlier. My family wasn't religious. I mean, they would say the grandparents would call themselves Christians, but my father had given it up, you know, for science. He was a scientist. Yeah, he was a biologist. Darwin.

I didn't think of my work as a relationship with faith exactly. It was more a relationship with curiosity. I had given up on faith, you know, much earlier. My family wasn't religious. I mean, they would say the grandparents would call themselves Christians, but my father had given it up, you know, for science. He was a scientist. Yeah, he was a biologist. Darwin.

I didn't think of my work as a relationship with faith exactly. It was more a relationship with curiosity. I had given up on faith, you know, much earlier. My family wasn't religious. I mean, they would say the grandparents would call themselves Christians, but my father had given it up, you know, for science. He was a scientist. Yeah, he was a biologist. Darwin.

Well, that was just an accident. I mean, religion was not on the spectrum for me. until somebody took me to San Francisco for something, and it turned out it was an evangelical crusade. I didn't know who this guy was, Billy Graham, but he was powerful, and the whole event was extraordinary.

Well, that was just an accident. I mean, religion was not on the spectrum for me. until somebody took me to San Francisco for something, and it turned out it was an evangelical crusade. I didn't know who this guy was, Billy Graham, but he was powerful, and the whole event was extraordinary.

Well, that was just an accident. I mean, religion was not on the spectrum for me. until somebody took me to San Francisco for something, and it turned out it was an evangelical crusade. I didn't know who this guy was, Billy Graham, but he was powerful, and the whole event was extraordinary.

You get invited to be born again and have a new family and start your life over, and I thought, that's great.

You get invited to be born again and have a new family and start your life over, and I thought, that's great.

You get invited to be born again and have a new family and start your life over, and I thought, that's great.

Yes. I mean, he had, you know, this 6,000 people singing. And, you know, you can have this experience with God and all this. And I was just totally captivated. He was charismatic. And he surprised me. The whole thing surprised me. But I did feel like the sky opened up. You know, it was like something happened.

Yes. I mean, he had, you know, this 6,000 people singing. And, you know, you can have this experience with God and all this. And I was just totally captivated. He was charismatic. And he surprised me. The whole thing surprised me. But I did feel like the sky opened up. You know, it was like something happened.

Yes. I mean, he had, you know, this 6,000 people singing. And, you know, you can have this experience with God and all this. And I was just totally captivated. He was charismatic. And he surprised me. The whole thing surprised me. But I did feel like the sky opened up. You know, it was like something happened.

Well, it lasted until, you know, the church I went to told me something I couldn't stand. It was a friend of mine in high school had been killed in an automobile accident. And I went back to this evangelical church of which I'd been a part for a year quite intensely. And I said, my friend has been killed in an accident. And they said, that's terrible. Was he born again?

Well, it lasted until, you know, the church I went to told me something I couldn't stand. It was a friend of mine in high school had been killed in an automobile accident. And I went back to this evangelical church of which I'd been a part for a year quite intensely. And I said, my friend has been killed in an accident. And they said, that's terrible. Was he born again?

Well, it lasted until, you know, the church I went to told me something I couldn't stand. It was a friend of mine in high school had been killed in an automobile accident. And I went back to this evangelical church of which I'd been a part for a year quite intensely. And I said, my friend has been killed in an accident. And they said, that's terrible. Was he born again?

And I said, no, he was Jewish. And then, you know, someone said, well, then he's in hell. And I just felt like I'd been... That was out.

And I said, no, he was Jewish. And then, you know, someone said, well, then he's in hell. And I just felt like I'd been... That was out.

And I said, no, he was Jewish. And then, you know, someone said, well, then he's in hell. And I just felt like I'd been... That was out.

Socked in the stomach. And I just walked out. I never went back.

Socked in the stomach. And I just walked out. I never went back.