Elaine Pagels

Yeah. Well, I didn't think about that he wasn't real. I just thought whoever that might have been, this was now some grand drama played out in the universe. And that's how it felt.

Yeah. Well, I didn't think about that he wasn't real. I just thought whoever that might have been, this was now some grand drama played out in the universe. And that's how it felt.

Well, when those Gospels now in the New Testament were written, there were others as well. We know that because people at the time said, oh, well, there's the Gospel of Truth and there's the Gospel of Thomas and the Gospel of Matthew and the Gospel to the Egyptians. You know, they named these. And some of the earliest writers say, well, there are…

Well, when those Gospels now in the New Testament were written, there were others as well. We know that because people at the time said, oh, well, there's the Gospel of Truth and there's the Gospel of Thomas and the Gospel of Matthew and the Gospel to the Egyptians. You know, they named these. And some of the earliest writers say, well, there are…

Well, when those Gospels now in the New Testament were written, there were others as well. We know that because people at the time said, oh, well, there's the Gospel of Truth and there's the Gospel of Thomas and the Gospel of Matthew and the Gospel to the Egyptians. You know, they named these. And some of the earliest writers say, well, there are…

genuine gospels, and that there are terrible ones. Avoid those. They're written by heretics. They will lead you astray. So we knew there were far more than four, but four became part of a canon, which means a standard, right?

genuine gospels, and that there are terrible ones. Avoid those. They're written by heretics. They will lead you astray. So we knew there were far more than four, but four became part of a canon, which means a standard, right?

genuine gospels, and that there are terrible ones. Avoid those. They're written by heretics. They will lead you astray. So we knew there were far more than four, but four became part of a canon, which means a standard, right?

I think they became the canon because they talk about actual narratives of the life and death of Jesus of Nazareth. These others are not that. They usually consist of sayings, just teachings, which are different from those in the New Testament. as Mark points out when he writes about them, are the public teaching of Jesus, what he taught when he was out with crowds on the hills of Galilee.

I think they became the canon because they talk about actual narratives of the life and death of Jesus of Nazareth. These others are not that. They usually consist of sayings, just teachings, which are different from those in the New Testament. as Mark points out when he writes about them, are the public teaching of Jesus, what he taught when he was out with crowds on the hills of Galilee.

I think they became the canon because they talk about actual narratives of the life and death of Jesus of Nazareth. These others are not that. They usually consist of sayings, just teachings, which are different from those in the New Testament. as Mark points out when he writes about them, are the public teaching of Jesus, what he taught when he was out with crowds on the hills of Galilee.

And that's repeated in Luke and Matthew as well, also in the Gospel of Thomas. But these other Gospels, which are called Gnostic for all the wrong reasons, by the way, it was partly my fault, claim to give private teaching that he gave secretly to certain disciples, the way any rabbi teaches today, right?

And that's repeated in Luke and Matthew as well, also in the Gospel of Thomas. But these other Gospels, which are called Gnostic for all the wrong reasons, by the way, it was partly my fault, claim to give private teaching that he gave secretly to certain disciples, the way any rabbi teaches today, right?

And that's repeated in Luke and Matthew as well, also in the Gospel of Thomas. But these other Gospels, which are called Gnostic for all the wrong reasons, by the way, it was partly my fault, claim to give private teaching that he gave secretly to certain disciples, the way any rabbi teaches today, right?

There's one thing to the congregation that's preached, and that teacher will say different things to his closest followers and sort of advanced level students.

There's one thing to the congregation that's preached, and that teacher will say different things to his closest followers and sort of advanced level students.

There's one thing to the congregation that's preached, and that teacher will say different things to his closest followers and sort of advanced level students.

Because you can't confirm what's said, I suppose.

Because you can't confirm what's said, I suppose.

Because you can't confirm what's said, I suppose.