Elaine Pagels

Exactly. It's a set of values and it's an ethical tradition.

Exactly. It's a set of values and it's an ethical tradition.

Exactly. It's a set of values and it's an ethical tradition.

Yes, a set of arguments, but it also has very deep emotional support in the practices that people do.

Yes, a set of arguments, but it also has very deep emotional support in the practices that people do.

Yes, a set of arguments, but it also has very deep emotional support in the practices that people do.

Well, it's a hard question. I mean, yes, I feel identified with Christian tradition from the way I grew up. And it speaks to me. It's sort of like English. You know, that's the language I grew up with. And I find it compelling in many ways. But it's not the only kind of tradition that compels me. I mean, I'm engaged with some friends in New York in a Buddhist meditation group, which we meet often.

Well, it's a hard question. I mean, yes, I feel identified with Christian tradition from the way I grew up. And it speaks to me. It's sort of like English. You know, that's the language I grew up with. And I find it compelling in many ways. But it's not the only kind of tradition that compels me. I mean, I'm engaged with some friends in New York in a Buddhist meditation group, which we meet often.

Well, it's a hard question. I mean, yes, I feel identified with Christian tradition from the way I grew up. And it speaks to me. It's sort of like English. You know, that's the language I grew up with. And I find it compelling in many ways. But it's not the only kind of tradition that compels me. I mean, I'm engaged with some friends in New York in a Buddhist meditation group, which we meet often.

Hmm. and other traditions as well. But yes, I would say Christian. I love that tradition in some ways. And Jesus seems like he was a historical person, but he's not just that. There are myths woven into the stories. There are elaborations. There are miracles. There are signs and symbols that play in the stories. It's not just a history at all.

Hmm. and other traditions as well. But yes, I would say Christian. I love that tradition in some ways. And Jesus seems like he was a historical person, but he's not just that. There are myths woven into the stories. There are elaborations. There are miracles. There are signs and symbols that play in the stories. It's not just a history at all.

Hmm. and other traditions as well. But yes, I would say Christian. I love that tradition in some ways. And Jesus seems like he was a historical person, but he's not just that. There are myths woven into the stories. There are elaborations. There are miracles. There are signs and symbols that play in the stories. It's not just a history at all.

These texts are called good news because they're publications of the message of Jesus, which is, God is going to come into the world and transform it. And your world can be transformed. Come and be part of that transformation. And the world, which now contains so much suffering and pain, will sort of explode into a glorious new reality.

These texts are called good news because they're publications of the message of Jesus, which is, God is going to come into the world and transform it. And your world can be transformed. Come and be part of that transformation. And the world, which now contains so much suffering and pain, will sort of explode into a glorious new reality.

These texts are called good news because they're publications of the message of Jesus, which is, God is going to come into the world and transform it. And your world can be transformed. Come and be part of that transformation. And the world, which now contains so much suffering and pain, will sort of explode into a glorious new reality.

I don't know. I don't know. It leads me to at least have an open question. I mean, I assumed until some time ago that after we die, you know, it's sort of what Steve Jobs was said to say, just lights out, right? But even stories I've heard about his death suggest that at some point he suggested there was something else.

I don't know. I don't know. It leads me to at least have an open question. I mean, I assumed until some time ago that after we die, you know, it's sort of what Steve Jobs was said to say, just lights out, right? But even stories I've heard about his death suggest that at some point he suggested there was something else.

I don't know. I don't know. It leads me to at least have an open question. I mean, I assumed until some time ago that after we die, you know, it's sort of what Steve Jobs was said to say, just lights out, right? But even stories I've heard about his death suggest that at some point he suggested there was something else.

And maybe that's just the thing people need when they go into death to allow them to do it. But there may be something else. So I have a sense that what we think of as the invisible world has deep realities to it that are quite unfathomable. I think about this in the way that Tanya Luhrmann at Stanford wrote a brilliant book called How God Becomes Real. She's talking about Jewish tradition.

And maybe that's just the thing people need when they go into death to allow them to do it. But there may be something else. So I have a sense that what we think of as the invisible world has deep realities to it that are quite unfathomable. I think about this in the way that Tanya Luhrmann at Stanford wrote a brilliant book called How God Becomes Real. She's talking about Jewish tradition.