Ellie Mystal

I'm joined now by the Trump administration's borders are Tom Homan. Mr. Homan, thank you very much for joining us. I want to start with something you you said last week that caused a big stir. You said, I quote, I don't care what judges think. Now, I know you have since said that the administration will abide by court orders. We heard Donald Trump say the same thing.

So what do you mean when you say I don't care what judges think?

But you're going to abide by court orders and go through your appeals process, but you are not going to defy those orders. No. Okay, let me ask you about the flights at issue here, the flights to El Salvador. You have said that everybody on those flights had ties to the Venezuelan gang, Tren de Aragua, or to MS-13. Can you give me some background?

Help me understand how these people ended up there. Are these people that were recently arrested?

So how do you determine, or how do your people in the field determine that somebody is a gang member?

okay so like what well we could eliminate all voter registration laws see when democrats get in charge we try to protect voting rights we don't make voting easier now i'm all for voter eligibility requirements i might we might disagree about what those requirements should be but you know i'm going to say that like there should be an age limit to vote i might say 16 you might say 18 but i'm not going to say eight right so we're going to agree that there should be voter eligibility requirements but once you're eligible

Why do you have to pre-register? Why is that even a thing? It wasn't a thing in this country at the founding. We didn't have voter pre-registration in 1787. We didn't have voter pre-registration in 1821. We only started having voter registration, generally speaking, after the Civil War. Why do you think that is?

It's because a bunch of freed African slaves were migrating up north and all of a sudden New York was like, we need some

registration up in here right bunch of immigrants from europe mainly um ireland and italy were coming to new york people were like oh we need some registration in here if you're eligible to vote you should be automatically registered to vote and that is how they do it everywhere else but us

Everywhere else but us either has automatic registration or some other form of forced registration for everybody so that you don't have this disconnect between eligible voters and registered voters. That's the first law in the book that we could change. And to see how that's different than just saying we have to protect voting rights. No, no, no. We don't have to protect voting rights.

We have to expand voting rights. so that the 90 million people that sat on the couch and sat out this last election between democracy and fascism, so that maybe they have a little bit of an easier time to get up off the couch and come participate in the democracy.