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Emma Green

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The New Yorker Radio Hour
How the Trump Administration Made Higher Education a Target

She left her former role in the administration at the end of the summer, although she's still advising them on the university deals.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
How the Trump Administration Made Higher Education a Target

One of the things that she was responsible for coordinating was this higher education agenda.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
How the Trump Administration Made Higher Education a Target

So she would take the policy directives from the Domestic Policy Council, the White House, the president, and she would make sure that there was this coordinated effort across the different agencies.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
How the Trump Administration Made Higher Education a Target

There was an anti-Semitism task force with representatives from Department of Justice, Health and Human Services, Department of Education.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
How the Trump Administration Made Higher Education a Target

They would report up to her, tell her what was going on.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
How the Trump Administration Made Higher Education a Target

But she would also make sure that when there was going to be an action, when they were going to take on a school or take on an issue, that they were marching in lockstep, that all of the different agencies were aligned, that they were going to take actions of their own.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
How the Trump Administration Made Higher Education a Target

And it created this kind of remarkable effect.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
How the Trump Administration Made Higher Education a Target

It was almost like a strike force effect.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
How the Trump Administration Made Higher Education a Target

where when the administration decided to take on a particular school, they would have these series of letters or press statements or announcements that would happen, boom, boom, boom, one right after another.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
How the Trump Administration Made Higher Education a Target

It was all lined up.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
How the Trump Administration Made Higher Education a Target

I think that's right.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
How the Trump Administration Made Higher Education a Target

Her position is not a senior, meaning she's not the person at that senior, you know, shot-calling level.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
How the Trump Administration Made Higher Education a Target

But she was running the show, and this is a description I've gotten from her and from lots of allies in the administration.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
How the Trump Administration Made Higher Education a Target

She, you know, tries to be modest about it, right?

The New Yorker Radio Hour
How the Trump Administration Made Higher Education a Target

She's the coordinator, the implementer.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
How the Trump Administration Made Higher Education a Target

But in terms of the person who was actually making the agenda actually happening on the ground, it was Mae Mailman.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
How the Trump Administration Made Higher Education a Target

So she grew up in Kansas in a pretty rural community that's pretty white.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
How the Trump Administration Made Higher Education a Target

Her mom is Korean.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
How the Trump Administration Made Higher Education a Target

Her dad is white.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
How the Trump Administration Made Higher Education a Target

So she's biracial.