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Emma Green

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The New Yorker Radio Hour
How the Trump Administration Made Higher Education a Target

You know, I think there's that sort of usefulness aspect, wanting to actually game the system and get ahead.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
How the Trump Administration Made Higher Education a Target

In terms of the cultural piece, though, I think we're in this really unsettled moment about –

The New Yorker Radio Hour
How the Trump Administration Made Higher Education a Target

What the humanities as a sort of set of disciplines can do about campuses being biased, about them only presenting very particular points of view, and the university not being a place where these great clashes of ideas can happen.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
How the Trump Administration Made Higher Education a Target

I think it's really unsettled how universities will respond to that and what kind of structures they'll put in place to try to answer that.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
How the Trump Administration Made Higher Education a Target

They care about prestige, which this certainly has been a hard thing for prestige, but also and especially they care about money.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
How the Trump Administration Made Higher Education a Target

And that's where the leverage was, was the science money.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
How the Trump Administration Made Higher Education a Target

Some of that is coming from a kind of different motivation within the administration, which is Doge.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
How the Trump Administration Made Higher Education a Target

They mostly did keyword searches and they found, you know, grants for things that they thought were woke and canceled those grants.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
How the Trump Administration Made Higher Education a Target

Some grants have been canceled through the administration trying to change universities or influence universities to comply with what they see as federal law.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
How the Trump Administration Made Higher Education a Target

Hard to say because it's playing out right now.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
How the Trump Administration Made Higher Education a Target

They just unveiled this at the beginning of October, and they selected a handful of schools to consider this compact on excellence in higher education.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
How the Trump Administration Made Higher Education a Target

The compact is this 10-page letter that they sent out.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
How the Trump Administration Made Higher Education a Target

And they basically say, if you agree to not use race in admissions, if you agree to have ideological diversity, institutional neutrality, all of these different things that matter to them, we will give you preferred access to federal funds.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
How the Trump Administration Made Higher Education a Target

It's the carrot to the carrot and stick, arguably.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
How the Trump Administration Made Higher Education a Target

And the idea is that they're trying to incentivize universities to sign on to this vision of

The New Yorker Radio Hour
How the Trump Administration Made Higher Education a Target

culturally of what they should be like, the kinds of standards they should uphold in order to get access to the federal funds that they need to be competitive, to do research, to advance scientific agenda.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
How the Trump Administration Made Higher Education a Target

So there's a lot of conversation happening right now about what these universities are going to do.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
How the Trump Administration Made Higher Education a Target

There have been strong statements by, for example, organizations that represent professors against signing on to any such compact.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
How the Trump Administration Made Higher Education a Target

And the concern is that it's basically manipulation, that it's the federal government trying to tell these universities,

The New Yorker Radio Hour
How the Trump Administration Made Higher Education a Target

independent institutions how to pursue truth and pursue knowledge.