Eyck Freymann

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Thanks for having me on.

I think I could go back.

The question is whether I could leave.

I'm joking.

I'm joking.

They gave me a hard time at immigration on the way out last time.

And I can't do useful research there anymore.

It's not like there's archives I can access, interviews I can do.

So the value of it for research is going down for me, but also the risk to my person, the risk to my devices is going up.

I do try to engage as much as I can, but I think it's better to engage in third countries.

Well, my background is as a China scholar looking at China's global investment campaign.

My first book was about the Belt and Road.

And I looked at a bunch of Chinese language sources that show how it works under the hood as a campaign to mobilize the party state behind Xi Jinping.

And then I went on the trail of it to Sri Lanka, to Tanzania, Greece.

Greenland, actually, I did my PhD about China in Greenland, trying to understand how China leverages... You did your PhD about China in Greenland?

Yeah.

Oh, that is timely.

Keep going.

That'll be another book.