Faiza Patel
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Oh. Reconnect to nature. Oh.
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They were trying to manifest. Exactly. It was wishful thinking.
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Precisely. I agree with Faiza. Technology moves faster than the law, than regulation, than protections. And people might not have initially been aware of those systems that have been put in place. I think around 2013, when Edward Snowden released his documents about the NSA's sort of pervasive surveillance around the world, but also of American phone records.
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People first started to become aware that that was happening and to be upset about it, particularly from the perspective of government surveillance. However, I think people also love the convenience and the fun of the corporate side of surveillance in a way. You think about that app where it'll age your face a certain number of years and tell you what you look like in the future.
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That ended up being a Russian app and people happily gave up their photos of their faces.
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I think that a lot of lawmakers recently have started raising a stink about this issue, including Ron Wyden of Oregon. He said in a letter that governments are buying up so much of this data that data brokers are collecting that they can use to track people's movements, to sort of skirt requirements about what things that they're allowed to actually collect themselves, if that makes sense.
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These data brokers are gathering so much information about people that They have addresses, social security numbers, phone numbers, bank information.
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Yeah, exactly. And a lot of that kind of data can be purchased really by anyone.
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Thank you so much. That's the kind of data that companies have access to. If there's geolocation from your Google Maps, for example, and you regularly travel between a point that's clearly your home and a specific health clinic, that information is something that can be gleaned. And I mean, it works from all sides of the coin, right?
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During January 6th, the riot that took over on that day, Google ended up handing over location data that led to the indictments of many of those January 6th rioters. So this is something that is commonplace at this point. It's really interesting to think about this from the company's perspective. They fit into almost this false dichotomy of security versus privacy.
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on the one hand, this almost patriotic responsibility, right, to hand over data, to contribute to government, to contribute to national security. I think on the other hand, you also have this privacy value, something that I think Apple has been known to promote. Back with the San Bernardino case, we saw that Apple refused to hand over tools to break into
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the alleged shooter's phone at the time, and that became one of the many fights in sort of the encryption battles that people in the privacy space are very familiar with.
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And the Department of Homeland Security's cybersecurity agency, CISA, have put out a lot of information about what they call secure by design. They want companies to design their products with security baked in so that people don't have to think about that kind of thing.