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Kyle, you want to feed the fish or anything or are you chilling? Wait, are those piranhas? So welcome to the Central Viewing Gallery. We've got a couple of kitties here. Holy shit. This is crazy. You're going to have to be nice. Got him.
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A minute later, the lightning hit the water like 15 feet behind me.
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Oh yeah. Are you kidding me? What did it feel like? My whole like legs went like jelly and I was like, like couldn't walk. Like every muscle in my legs and butt tightened up. And it was just for like a flash second where it all just contracted and then released. And then I like ran out of the water and had this crazy like adrenaline spike.
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But then when I came down from it, I had the taste of metal in my mouth for like a week. It just tastes like metal. I couldn't taste any food. And my butt was super sore. Like I'd just done like a thousand squats. It was really weird.
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Well, we scared the shit out of him last time. We scared the shit out of him last time.
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It's all calculated risks. So you can read a situation. I look at the ocean. I go, all right, how many sharks are there? How fired up are they? Are they going to attack? Am I safe?
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So with sharks, and every single animal is different, with sharks, are their backs arched? Are their pectoral fins locked out? Are their eyelids rolling back in their head? What are the signs of aggression? If a shark's lazily swimming around, it's not in an attack mode or aggressive mode. If it starts arching its back and locking its fins, it means it's going to snap.
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Like today when we were rolling around and I showed you Pancham the tiger, I was like, see how he's flicking his tail? He's going to attack. Would it take 30 seconds from when I said that? And he attacked. If you don't study those animals, though, whether that's reading or personal observation or anything, you'd never know that.
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So I can see by looking at these guys' body language, that animal's completely relaxed. You can go right up to the glass. He might want to play with you, but he's not going to attack you. Punch him with the way he was hunched and his tail was flicking. That means he's aggressive.
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But at the end of the day, it's a risk no matter what. I don't care if you're freaking Ocean Ramsey or any of these people who are the best shark divers in the world. Every single time you get in the water with a shark, it's a risk. The shark can just change its mind. Just like people. If you're like, all right, I'm going to spar with somebody today or start a bar fight, let's say.
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It might be one in a thousand, might be one in a million, but at some point somebody's going to pull out a knife. You know what I mean? And that's how sharks are. That's how animals are. You can just find one that's just in a bad mood. And I've had a few of those where the shark just comes right at me.
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Oh, yeah, sure. Let's see. What's my craziest shark story? My craziest shark story is probably when I was working with this tiger shark in the Maldives and it was coming in and it was circling around and I was like, okay, it's pretty chill. This is like a super wild tiger. It's never had people around. And all of a sudden it like fucking took off.
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i was like oh that was weird like it sped off at full speed and i looked over my shoulder as i looked over my shoulder this huge female tiger shark i'm talking like 16 17 feet two ton tiger shark comes swimming in and bumps the back of my head with her with her nose and she was moving relatively slowly but her eyes had rolled back in her head so she was just there to bite and as i did that i went like that and like pushed her up and literally another millisecond and she would have like crunched into my head but i somehow had my hand in like a good spot to
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close her jaw from the bottom and push her head up. And, uh, yeah, just luckily didn't take my head off.
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steve irwin said it best right he's like he was referring to crocodiles but he goes animals crocodiles are easy they just want to fucking kill you people are much more complicated because they pretend to be your friend first and it's it's so true if you kind of live by that and just just read the situation it's like yeah i got it i know with a crocodile he wants to eat me the whole time there's no world in which he doesn't same with these things and that was that your closest call ever with an animal
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Man, I've had some pretty gnarly ones. I'm trying to think what else. I mean, I got bitten by a snake that was pretty bad when I was younger.
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Oh, yeah. See, it's like it all fucking fades out now. Yeah, I was darting lions in Zimbabwe, in southern Zimbabwe. And I was tracking this big male lion to collar him on foot. And I put a dart into him. And I was like, all right, he's going down. And then I tracked him for like another five minutes. And I was like, oh, he's falling asleep. Let's move in.
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And basically as I reloaded the dart to move in, he took off and came right at me and I just hit the ground flat. I was in full camo and he was like drunk from the drugs, but he wasn't out. And he almost walked over me before I shot him again with the second dart. I mean, it was really close. That's fucking insane. Yeah, it was nuts.
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Oh, I saw the picture. Super skinny old guy with a beard.
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No, you've had more crazy India experiences because I just come here for this. I just come here for the animals. You guys have seen and done way more than I have in India. What's the craziest part of your whole trip so far?
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Yeah. Yeah, 100%. But I love that, dude. I am a bro, and you guys are bros, and we hit it off immediately. So I was like, bring these guys, man. They're my friends. They'll love it here. Show people animals. I get a kick out of showing you guys stuff, and I know that that translates on camera. Yeah. How did you become close with Joe? He hit me up on Instagram out of the blue.
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And he's like, bro, you have the coolest Instagram in the world. Come tell some stories on my podcast. This is like back in the day. When was the first time you ever went on there? 2017 or 18. It's been a minute. Yeah. I'd have to check that, but it's been a while. And he was like, just come, just come hang out on the pod. And it was already a big pod.
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Don't get me wrong, but it wasn't like what it is today. Right. And we hung out, we ran on the pod. And afterwards he's like, Dude, I'm obsessed with wolves. I was like, do you want me to take you to meet some wolves? He's like, no way. I was like, yeah, I'm friends with the guys who run the Wolf Center in California. And I was like, yeah. He's like, when can we go? I was like, Wednesdays. I'm in.
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I'll cancel everything. So I grabbed him and we went and saw wolves and had a great day. We've just been friends ever since. Where'd you guys go for that? It's called Wolf Connection. It's in like outside of LA, like two hours outside of LA. And they just rescue wolves. Like people get wolves as pets and think it's dope, but they live in like West Hollywood.
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And then a wolf is in like a one bedroom apartment. And so they just rescue all these wolves. And so I took them to meet some wolves there.
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It's my pleasure. I'm stoked you took me up on the offer because I love this place. I mean, I really do. I'm here just because I love it. No other reason. And it's really cool because Indian culture is,
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Play wolves. I'll show you photos. We're scruffing them up and throwing, throwing like treats for them and, you know, full on. Cause a lot of them were hand raised.
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And he'll text me anytime. He's like, this is like, is this real? Like, is this a real wildlife story? Like recently we were talking about like the largest crocodile in history. And I was explaining to him how like crocodiles grow until they die. It just slows down. So there could be 25 foot crocodiles. It just have to be really old. And he's like, where would that be?
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And you know, he like, he's, it's similar to a knot. He's another wildlife nerd. Like he'll just text me wildlife nerd questions. And like, it's really cool that I've, form this like clique of friends like Joe Rogan, Anat and Bonnie, and you know, a handful of others who are just super passionate about animals. That's the thing we all have in common.
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Like my life, Joe's life and Anat's life could not be more separate. But if we're in a room together, we're talking about one thing. And so it brings us all together. Yeah.
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Was that the first time that a president's ever been on a podcast? It probably is, right? Maybe, this election cycle. But it was, in my opinion, undeniably a deciding factor for the election.
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is if you're a guest you stand above all else like it is paramount to them here in india that if you're a guest that they treat you like royalty like better than their own family and it's you're getting to experience it i mean explain where we are and what your role is here and stuff like that and what we're doing in india Yeah, with pleasure.
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I think so, too. And, I mean, it was sort of like, how real is this guy? Exactly. Because that's what Joe Rogan is.
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Yeah. And yeah. And, you know, whether they were good candidates or bad candidates, you never really knew who Kamala Harris was because you didn't listen to a three hour conversation with her ever. Like as far as I was aware. So, yeah, it just like it made people be like, oh, this guy's a good guy.
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Yeah. I mean, the world's changing. And for what you do and what I do, like the media landscape, it's really changing. I did all my come up in television and I'm still making TV shows. We got a bunch of series, a bunch of Shark Weeks and stuff coming out this year, but that's circling the drain. Yeah. That's on its way out. And I'm having way more fun doing this stuff.
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Yeah. All we do is prank each other and have fun all day. Are you kidding me?
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We got two different shows. First one's in Australia. And it's for a franchise that I've had for a number of years that really looks at like odd and bizarre sharks. I have to be careful what I say before they come out. But I mean, they take every view they can get at this point, I would say. But yeah, so that's a franchise I've had for three years now.
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And then the second one's an all new concept that'll be in Florida.
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I like doing both of it. I mean, Shark Week's still media. It's big, you know, it's, it's big TV thing, but Shark Week's fun, man. It's big production, big crew, a lot of people, you know, real budget, big boats. Like we fly on helicopters and get like giant boats that we charter, like yachts that we live aboard for up to a month at a time. Like, It's a real expedition.
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Like one in South Florida isn't, but most of our other ones are like big deals.
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Yep. So I've been working with the Colombian government. Coronare is the organization. And they're in charge with trying to create a solution with the cocaine hippos. So Pablo Escobar imported... He had a private zoo at Haciendanapolis, which was like his big base. He imported four hippos. And when he got gunned down by his enemies, they took all the animals and moved them to zoos.
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But they're like, we can't move these hippos. They're going to kill somebody. So they just opened the gates and let them out. Those four hippos have now multiplied over 200 and growing. Like that number exponentially increases every year because they're reproducing so fast. Because hippos are from Africa. They're not from Colombia. So Cornare...
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I'm friends with the guys that are in charge of that and stuff. And they're like, would you please come help us create a plan to solve this problem? So I was like, yeah, no problem. So me and the boys flew down there, built Bomas, which are big, big giant traps and caught hippos and cut their nuts off.
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Crazy, right? Just wait until you see what I got set up for.
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So as you know, to describe why I'm here, I'm seen as a pretty big authority on wildlife. And I've been working with wildlife my whole life. And so I've heard about this place for several years. And it's called Ventara. And it's owned by one of the richest people in the world, Anad Ambani. And...
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No, it's a discovery for discovery show. Yeah. That's fucking nuts. It's pretty wild. It's a rodeo too.
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No, it's pretty weird. Is there another weird request that you've ever got? Weirder than cutting nuts off of hippos. I mean, no, that's probably the top.
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No, we do full field surgeries. Okay. So you tranquilize them. So you tranquilize them. Yeah, put them down because you kind of move a hippo and you have to do it overnight because it's too hot there during the day. So if you tranquilize them during the day, they cook and die. They overheat and die.
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So you got to dart them at night and then you're literally doing surgery from like 7 PM until like two, three in the morning. And like, if it's a female, female castration is way more complicated. So it's like big incision, full on, like, like castration and close them up. And if it's a male, you just kind of, um, but yeah, it's, it's pretty wild. And hippos are a rodeo.
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Like they charge at you and we're building these like pretty shitty Bomas and Bomas collapse. It's crazy.
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sort of similar to me he's loved wildlife his entire life when he was six years old he used to run around the streets of mumbai rescuing street chickens and taking them back to like his parents house it started with that when he was 16 he rescued one elephant and he's like where am i going to put that elephant so he built that elephant facility Then he built another one.
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Then he built another one. So he's been building this place for a while and it's growing at a rate that you cannot explain. So this is Ventara. It's the world's largest wildlife rescue and rehab facility. And every animal here has been rescued from all corners of the globe.
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So because of what I do with wildlife, I had been told to him by several people that work here full time. They're like, you got to get this guy forest. You got to get this guy forest.
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I mean, you know how you've been treated since you've been here. Yeah. He rolls around on another level to that. But what's so great about him as a person is like he does that when he has to for security reasons. Then he comes here and it'll just be him and I going for a walk for an hour talking about what's the best way to keep crocodiles.
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And we'll walk around for one hour and just discuss that and just be like, well, how do you what do you think about this? Like how many animals should we have in this pond? Like, is it too many? And it'll just be him and I at two in the morning walking around. So he's just like a very leveled, headed down to earth guy. He's just come up in this crazy world. You know what I mean?
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Like nothing matters. Like it's not about financial. It's about the realization that he's had and Adambani has had that wildlife is the most important thing on this planet. And to me, while all these other billionaires are in like a dick measuring contest to race to space, he's like, I'm just going to save what's on the planet, which I think is awesome.
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Right? I'm really jealous because I want to do one of my pods in the central viewing gallery.
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Oh, fully legitimate. Brett, who we hung out with, is the only person that's ever been accepted into that tribe. We are one of... a handful of Western groups that have ever been there. People think that tribes are like, you know, so deep in the jungle. They've never, they, some, some of them had cell phones, you know, they didn't work. There was no cell phone signal.
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You know, some of them had NFL, like Superbowl t-shirts from 2002, you know, like they get stuff, but there's still a remote tribe that are still primarily uncontacted. Yeah. You know, like, yes, other missionaries have been there. That's why some of them are Christian, but it's not like there's tours over there. You know what I mean? You saw. Yeah. Yeah.
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So this is called the central viewing gallery. And there's five different enclosures. No, sorry, six different enclosures with all these windows. But as you can see, their enclosures go way back. So they're a huge area. But at night with the lights on and people in here, they just want to see what's going on. This is crazy. This is crazy.
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Yeah, we've been chased around a lot. I mean, that's about as remote as a tribe gets, but I've had way scarier run-ins. Like we were sentenced to life in prison in Myanmar for smuggling a drone into the country during the Rohingya massacre, which was this big like religious massacre. We got chased out of Mozambique by corrupt government officials because of some like
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nefarious activity with Chinese loggers. We've had some pretty crazy stuff. We've been shot at. We've had some crazy stuff.
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I grew up in Africa. I grew up in Zimbabwe. We had a small bush plane because my family ran safari businesses. We just traveled all over Africa, as remote as we could get, collecting artifacts, seeing wildlife. That's just what my family did. I just kept chasing that. After school, after college, I was... I was like, I'm going to be a biologist. I'm going to change the world.
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I'm going to go save animals. And I came out of school and got a job as a biologist. And I was making like 14 bucks an hour being a field tech. So like the guy who like actually catches the rattlesnakes or the guy who puts collars on the foxes or whatever. And then I was really good at that. So I got promoted quickly.
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And then as soon as you get promoted in biology, that means you're working in an office writing grants. So I got promoted and was like, I hate this. I want to go back to the field. I remember talking to my boss, Morgan. I was like, I want to go back to being a field tech. He's like, you're going to make half the money. I was like, I don't care. I'd rather be a field tech.
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So I like hit a dead end in biology where I couldn't be doing the stuff I love. And I was like, this is a waste of time. So I made the jump from that to like full on media, which is what, you know, I do conservation communication now, basically.
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I hate this question. My first big thing on TV is really funny. I got back from being a biologist, sat down on the couch. I'd been three months on a field survey, and I was exhausted, roasting hot, everything. Fell down on the couch, and Naked and Afraid was on TV. You ever seen that show? Yeah, yeah. I did that show.
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okay yeah that was my first foyer into tv but you know like survivor the bachelor whatever thousands of people have done that show i managed to take that and while everybody else was like crying or moaning or whining about surviving i was like out catching snakes and showing him the camera while my own snake was hanging out
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and um the producers were like why are you doing this i was like i don't know snakes are cool and then after that happened i was like all right that reached four million people like a paper that i wrote academic paper reached 400 like why am i studying science it's a waste i'm not going to change the world doing this so i just started pursuing media and pursuing media it took three years from the day i decided that and quit my biology job until i got my first tv show pilot
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I was living on fumes. I'd save up for like a month just to be able to fly to New York to pitch stuff and never got anything sold. Took three years.
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Yeah, thanks. It's all learned. I mean, never taken a film studies class or anything like that in my life. It's all learned. But I started, my first series was called Extinct or Alive where we look for extinct animals. And I was basically working for someone else and I was watching how they did it. And I was just very quietly observing and learning the whole time.
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And by the time season two came around, as the biologist, they're like, what should we do to me? And I was like, well, if you want me to tell you what to do, I need to be a producer. I can't just be the on-camera talent. And so I became a producer. And then after that, I was like, well, I'm going to start my own company. Like, I get it. I've seen how this works.
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And there's been some big ups and downs with that. Lost a lot of money. Made money. Like... Pitched some terrible shows, had big failures, but it's all trending in the right direction.
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Yeah. Well, I don't have a British accent, so that doesn't help.
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yeah like if you're just a British guy and you walk into a room in America they're like wow take my money and make a wildlife show you know all those narrators that do all those wildlife yeah all of them I feel like they're like cockier like they're dicks those guys oh for sure yeah British guys just like think think you know I mean if you talk like that too you're probably fucking a lot of chicks too yeah I mean and good for them like the guys that narrate wildlife shit oh yeah like they probably get laid
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Dude, in these little circles, like, oh man, I'm a big deal in my tiny little world.
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It's a flex at a party if you're at a party with a bunch of nerds. Yeah. It's not a flex at a regular party. It's not? Nah.
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Like I'm sure of everybody watching this, you're watching on YouTube. 99.9% of people don't even have cable anymore. Um, but you know, that's why I started YouTube like a year and a half ago now. And for many, many years, like making wildlife TV presenter led wildlife TV has been very fruitful and productive.
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And it's hard though, cause you're competing with companies like Silverback, which does all of the like planet earths and blue planet and stuff like that. And you walk in the room and they're like, you're 26 years old. And you're pitching me a wildlife show like I could buy that or I could go buy something from David Attenborough. He's been doing it for literally 90 years.
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And it's like, you know, it's hard. I had to fight my way through it. But every show I've ever made has been pretty successful. And so we just keep pushing those shots.
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I don't do it anymore, to be honest. I used to do it in the early days. Now, like some of my team who you met today, my camera guys will sit and do it. But they'll be sitting in a blind for days, six, seven days to get one shot.
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Yeah. And the guys who do like the BBC stuff will sit for like six, seven weeks to get a shot.
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Not much. Well, oh, but the company? A lot. But those are the big blue chip projects. Blue chip is pure nature. I've carved out a niche in presenter-led nature. So I'll present a show, host a show, or I sell shows with people presenting. They're a whole different ballgame. Those BBC projects are like $10 million an episode. My shows are like $200,000 an episode. They're a whole different ballgame.
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So we'll still have a pretty small team and put in a lot of effort and time to make a show, but...
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it's for me it's not about sitting on a mountain waiting for a snow leopard to come down the mountain it's like okay i need to i need to show what a snow leopard is what do i need to do to get to the snow leopard so while most guys will sit in a blind with a piece of bait waiting i'll have to like go up the mountain and find the thing and that's that's harder
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That's great. I mean, we're surrounded by them. This is crazy.
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The closest call I've ever had is self-induced. And it was like three years ago now. And we're milking sea snakes. So we're catching sea snakes in Australia to test their venom potency. And sea snakes are like 100 times more potent than a cobra. So like really deadly venom.
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and we're catching they have tiny mouths tiny fangs so you take the the snakes and you pipette the like little like scientific tube like pipette the venom out of their fangs and it's not like an exact science so the venom was like dripping down the outside onto my fingers and i started arguing with my cameraman mitch literally as i just finished milking the snake i was like dude off and i put my fingers in my eyes like this
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And I thought I still had the venom on my fingers. And I was just like, Oh, I just killed myself. Like, I just thought I'd rubbed sea snake venom in my eye ducts, which will enter straight into your bloodstream. And I was like, Oh, I just killed myself. Cause I'm like a day from anything. Like I'm not getting to a hospital, nothing. And so for like six, seven hours, I was like,
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I'm definitely going to die. I'm going to fall over dead any minute. And it was just like the anxiety of fighting that and not knowing what to do and being way too far. And like, I didn't tell anybody on my team. Cause I was like, I'll just stress them out and that'll make me more stressed out. So I was like, all right, I'm just gonna, I'm just gonna wait.
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I'm going to go to bed and hope I just don't wake up. And I just woke up the next morning. I was like, Whew, okay, didn't do it. That's fucked.
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Yeah. We were filming a Garmin watch commercial in the Everglades on the side of a road, very famous area called Loop Road. And there was like a thunderstorm and my cameraman was like, dude, get out of the water. There's too much thunder. I was like, shut up. Stop being such a pussy. Like nobody cares. And then literally like a minute later, Kyle was there.