George Sivulka

And I think, you know, my whole childhood, I was really just a math kid, like not very out there, wasn't really talkative, only really good at math. And my parents barely even knew what Stanford was. So growing up, you know, you kind of have this whole misalignment of of who I was and who I wanted to be with who they wanted me to be.

That gave me this drive and desire and passion to go out and prove myself in a way that was really tangible, maybe not only to them, but like hopefully to my own kids one day. Did you have friends? I had a lot of friends who were incredibly nerdy. So we went to a public school. I was the type of kid that would hack the school tablets to put StarCraft on everyone's computer.

That gave me this drive and desire and passion to go out and prove myself in a way that was really tangible, maybe not only to them, but like hopefully to my own kids one day. Did you have friends? I had a lot of friends who were incredibly nerdy. So we went to a public school. I was the type of kid that would hack the school tablets to put StarCraft on everyone's computer.

That gave me this drive and desire and passion to go out and prove myself in a way that was really tangible, maybe not only to them, but like hopefully to my own kids one day. Did you have friends? I had a lot of friends who were incredibly nerdy. So we went to a public school. I was the type of kid that would hack the school tablets to put StarCraft on everyone's computer.

And then we'd all not be paying attention in public school playing StarCraft. So there was a large enough contingent of kids that were also not athletes. Before, when we were chatting, you said there are three archetypes.

And then we'd all not be paying attention in public school playing StarCraft. So there was a large enough contingent of kids that were also not athletes. Before, when we were chatting, you said there are three archetypes.

And then we'd all not be paying attention in public school playing StarCraft. So there was a large enough contingent of kids that were also not athletes. Before, when we were chatting, you said there are three archetypes.

I'm happy to. I always joke around and say that you can bucket great founders into three backgrounds. I think probably the most common is that you had kind of a messed up childhood. The second most common would be you're gay. And the third most common would be you were adopted. look at a list of the all-time greats.

I'm happy to. I always joke around and say that you can bucket great founders into three backgrounds. I think probably the most common is that you had kind of a messed up childhood. The second most common would be you're gay. And the third most common would be you were adopted. look at a list of the all-time greats.

I'm happy to. I always joke around and say that you can bucket great founders into three backgrounds. I think probably the most common is that you had kind of a messed up childhood. The second most common would be you're gay. And the third most common would be you were adopted. look at a list of the all-time greats.

Elon Musk kind of messed up childhood, Jeff Bezos, Steve Jobs adopted, Peter Thiel, Sam Altman, publicly gay. And I think that all of these early life experiences end up giving you some desire, some deeper passion to go out and prove yourself.

Elon Musk kind of messed up childhood, Jeff Bezos, Steve Jobs adopted, Peter Thiel, Sam Altman, publicly gay. And I think that all of these early life experiences end up giving you some desire, some deeper passion to go out and prove yourself.

Elon Musk kind of messed up childhood, Jeff Bezos, Steve Jobs adopted, Peter Thiel, Sam Altman, publicly gay. And I think that all of these early life experiences end up giving you some desire, some deeper passion to go out and prove yourself.

What does your brother do now? He works for me upstairs. That's what I'm talking about. There we go. Did you feel like a disappointment? I think the answer is yes, I did. I felt like actually physically unable to do the things that I was wanted to do. Or I thought that I was good at things that weren't valued or weren't as important. All of my sisters are amazing athletes.

What does your brother do now? He works for me upstairs. That's what I'm talking about. There we go. Did you feel like a disappointment? I think the answer is yes, I did. I felt like actually physically unable to do the things that I was wanted to do. Or I thought that I was good at things that weren't valued or weren't as important. All of my sisters are amazing athletes.

What does your brother do now? He works for me upstairs. That's what I'm talking about. There we go. Did you feel like a disappointment? I think the answer is yes, I did. I felt like actually physically unable to do the things that I was wanted to do. Or I thought that I was good at things that weren't valued or weren't as important. All of my sisters are amazing athletes.

They're all like, you know, six feet tall and they're incredible athletes. And I was just not. And so it's kind of like the ugly duckling in many ways. Yeah.

They're all like, you know, six feet tall and they're incredible athletes. And I was just not. And so it's kind of like the ugly duckling in many ways. Yeah.

They're all like, you know, six feet tall and they're incredible athletes. And I was just not. And so it's kind of like the ugly duckling in many ways. Yeah.

There's completely separate stories there, but I think... How do you cold-cool NASA? This is actually a very good story. I wanted to be an astronaut. That was my number one goal, and I was hell-bent on that. And so by the time I was, I think, around 15 years old, I was going to high school in New York City, an all-scholarship school where the alumni paid for everything.