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George Sivulka

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546 total appearances

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The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Why All AI Companies Are Under-Valued | The Future of Foundation Models: Scaling Laws, Generalised vs Specialised, Commoditised? | From Unable to Afford Rent to Raising $130M From Index and Peter Thiel with George Sivulka @ Hebbia

I think I have an unhealthy obsession with driving really hard. Yeah, I think you just can never give up. Like, I just don't think that's an option. You can look at every company ever and some get to a hundred million dollars in revenue in whatever, like some span of time, which they probably, their marketing team has hacked. And some, you know, end up taking really, really long periods of time.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Why All AI Companies Are Under-Valued | The Future of Foundation Models: Scaling Laws, Generalised vs Specialised, Commoditised? | From Unable to Afford Rent to Raising $130M From Index and Peter Thiel with George Sivulka @ Hebbia

I think I have an unhealthy obsession with driving really hard. Yeah, I think you just can never give up. Like, I just don't think that's an option. You can look at every company ever and some get to a hundred million dollars in revenue in whatever, like some span of time, which they probably, their marketing team has hacked. And some, you know, end up taking really, really long periods of time.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Why All AI Companies Are Under-Valued | The Future of Foundation Models: Scaling Laws, Generalised vs Specialised, Commoditised? | From Unable to Afford Rent to Raising $130M From Index and Peter Thiel with George Sivulka @ Hebbia

I think I have an unhealthy obsession with driving really hard. Yeah, I think you just can never give up. Like, I just don't think that's an option. You can look at every company ever and some get to a hundred million dollars in revenue in whatever, like some span of time, which they probably, their marketing team has hacked. And some, you know, end up taking really, really long periods of time.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Why All AI Companies Are Under-Valued | The Future of Foundation Models: Scaling Laws, Generalised vs Specialised, Commoditised? | From Unable to Afford Rent to Raising $130M From Index and Peter Thiel with George Sivulka @ Hebbia

The only thing that actually changes is the rate at which you get there. And so sometimes things go in your favor. Sometimes they don't. But if you're so persistent that you just continue, like you can, you can bring a lemonade stand to a hundred million dollars in ARR. Like there's nothing that's actually stopped. You can brute force your way as a founder. You screw product market.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Why All AI Companies Are Under-Valued | The Future of Foundation Models: Scaling Laws, Generalised vs Specialised, Commoditised? | From Unable to Afford Rent to Raising $130M From Index and Peter Thiel with George Sivulka @ Hebbia

The only thing that actually changes is the rate at which you get there. And so sometimes things go in your favor. Sometimes they don't. But if you're so persistent that you just continue, like you can, you can bring a lemonade stand to a hundred million dollars in ARR. Like there's nothing that's actually stopped. You can brute force your way as a founder. You screw product market.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Why All AI Companies Are Under-Valued | The Future of Foundation Models: Scaling Laws, Generalised vs Specialised, Commoditised? | From Unable to Afford Rent to Raising $130M From Index and Peter Thiel with George Sivulka @ Hebbia

The only thing that actually changes is the rate at which you get there. And so sometimes things go in your favor. Sometimes they don't. But if you're so persistent that you just continue, like you can, you can bring a lemonade stand to a hundred million dollars in ARR. Like there's nothing that's actually stopped. You can brute force your way as a founder. You screw product market.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Why All AI Companies Are Under-Valued | The Future of Foundation Models: Scaling Laws, Generalised vs Specialised, Commoditised? | From Unable to Afford Rent to Raising $130M From Index and Peter Thiel with George Sivulka @ Hebbia

You can literally brute force anything in the world. You just have to have that ship. You have to continue to just pound away at whatever is in your way.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Why All AI Companies Are Under-Valued | The Future of Foundation Models: Scaling Laws, Generalised vs Specialised, Commoditised? | From Unable to Afford Rent to Raising $130M From Index and Peter Thiel with George Sivulka @ Hebbia

You can literally brute force anything in the world. You just have to have that ship. You have to continue to just pound away at whatever is in your way.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Why All AI Companies Are Under-Valued | The Future of Foundation Models: Scaling Laws, Generalised vs Specialised, Commoditised? | From Unable to Afford Rent to Raising $130M From Index and Peter Thiel with George Sivulka @ Hebbia

You can literally brute force anything in the world. You just have to have that ship. You have to continue to just pound away at whatever is in your way.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Why All AI Companies Are Under-Valued | The Future of Foundation Models: Scaling Laws, Generalised vs Specialised, Commoditised? | From Unable to Afford Rent to Raising $130M From Index and Peter Thiel with George Sivulka @ Hebbia

On to the next one, you know, it's like okay, you know that's done and like the next day I was like, okay Well, how do I become the youngest PhD student in my school's history is like he has not even a moment I I think you know, I was excited for a moment, but you know, it faded very very quick I spoke to Corey before the show someone who's known you since you were 18 Probably even earlier take me to the founding of heavier than we're at Stanford.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Why All AI Companies Are Under-Valued | The Future of Foundation Models: Scaling Laws, Generalised vs Specialised, Commoditised? | From Unable to Afford Rent to Raising $130M From Index and Peter Thiel with George Sivulka @ Hebbia

On to the next one, you know, it's like okay, you know that's done and like the next day I was like, okay Well, how do I become the youngest PhD student in my school's history is like he has not even a moment I I think you know, I was excited for a moment, but you know, it faded very very quick I spoke to Corey before the show someone who's known you since you were 18 Probably even earlier take me to the founding of heavier than we're at Stanford.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Why All AI Companies Are Under-Valued | The Future of Foundation Models: Scaling Laws, Generalised vs Specialised, Commoditised? | From Unable to Afford Rent to Raising $130M From Index and Peter Thiel with George Sivulka @ Hebbia

On to the next one, you know, it's like okay, you know that's done and like the next day I was like, okay Well, how do I become the youngest PhD student in my school's history is like he has not even a moment I I think you know, I was excited for a moment, but you know, it faded very very quick I spoke to Corey before the show someone who's known you since you were 18 Probably even earlier take me to the founding of heavier than we're at Stanford.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Why All AI Companies Are Under-Valued | The Future of Foundation Models: Scaling Laws, Generalised vs Specialised, Commoditised? | From Unable to Afford Rent to Raising $130M From Index and Peter Thiel with George Sivulka @ Hebbia

I'm one of the youngest PhD students in the history of my school, and I actually believe that I was working on, you know, at the time, one of the areas of research that was most interesting to me was meta-learning, this idea of teaching machines to learn to learn. And June of 2020, Sam Altman, OpenAI came out with GPT-3.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Why All AI Companies Are Under-Valued | The Future of Foundation Models: Scaling Laws, Generalised vs Specialised, Commoditised? | From Unable to Afford Rent to Raising $130M From Index and Peter Thiel with George Sivulka @ Hebbia

I'm one of the youngest PhD students in the history of my school, and I actually believe that I was working on, you know, at the time, one of the areas of research that was most interesting to me was meta-learning, this idea of teaching machines to learn to learn. And June of 2020, Sam Altman, OpenAI came out with GPT-3.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Why All AI Companies Are Under-Valued | The Future of Foundation Models: Scaling Laws, Generalised vs Specialised, Commoditised? | From Unable to Afford Rent to Raising $130M From Index and Peter Thiel with George Sivulka @ Hebbia

I'm one of the youngest PhD students in the history of my school, and I actually believe that I was working on, you know, at the time, one of the areas of research that was most interesting to me was meta-learning, this idea of teaching machines to learn to learn. And June of 2020, Sam Altman, OpenAI came out with GPT-3.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Why All AI Companies Are Under-Valued | The Future of Foundation Models: Scaling Laws, Generalised vs Specialised, Commoditised? | From Unable to Afford Rent to Raising $130M From Index and Peter Thiel with George Sivulka @ Hebbia

And if you remember the title of that paper, it was large language models are multitask or meta learners. And I'm sitting in my lab one day and playing around with this new technology. And I'm like, wow, they just stole the most important thing I could work out right under from my hands. And I said, well, if I can't build the most important technology, how can I build the most important product?

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Why All AI Companies Are Under-Valued | The Future of Foundation Models: Scaling Laws, Generalised vs Specialised, Commoditised? | From Unable to Afford Rent to Raising $130M From Index and Peter Thiel with George Sivulka @ Hebbia

And if you remember the title of that paper, it was large language models are multitask or meta learners. And I'm sitting in my lab one day and playing around with this new technology. And I'm like, wow, they just stole the most important thing I could work out right under from my hands. And I said, well, if I can't build the most important technology, how can I build the most important product?

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Why All AI Companies Are Under-Valued | The Future of Foundation Models: Scaling Laws, Generalised vs Specialised, Commoditised? | From Unable to Afford Rent to Raising $130M From Index and Peter Thiel with George Sivulka @ Hebbia

And if you remember the title of that paper, it was large language models are multitask or meta learners. And I'm sitting in my lab one day and playing around with this new technology. And I'm like, wow, they just stole the most important thing I could work out right under from my hands. And I said, well, if I can't build the most important technology, how can I build the most important product?

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Why All AI Companies Are Under-Valued | The Future of Foundation Models: Scaling Laws, Generalised vs Specialised, Commoditised? | From Unable to Afford Rent to Raising $130M From Index and Peter Thiel with George Sivulka @ Hebbia

And I think those are two very separate things. Obviously, at the time, GPT-3 was not a product. And I don't even think chat GPT is a really good product. It's like a calculator. It's got the technology in there encapsulated in very simple form. But it's not a product that, like in Excel, that lets you just build whatever you'd like with it. That's very human-versed.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Why All AI Companies Are Under-Valued | The Future of Foundation Models: Scaling Laws, Generalised vs Specialised, Commoditised? | From Unable to Afford Rent to Raising $130M From Index and Peter Thiel with George Sivulka @ Hebbia

And I think those are two very separate things. Obviously, at the time, GPT-3 was not a product. And I don't even think chat GPT is a really good product. It's like a calculator. It's got the technology in there encapsulated in very simple form. But it's not a product that, like in Excel, that lets you just build whatever you'd like with it. That's very human-versed.