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That's when you know you've nailed it.

Can you reflect on something when you're still in it?

Is that possible?

Or does time need to pass if we're talking about this idea of before and after?

Do you need to actually have a bit of distance from something to go, oh, that's what that was about?

Well, you write songs about your life, right?

There's a thread of redemption on your record too.

You know, on Dust you're being redeemed in death.

On Trigger of a Gun, redemption's kind of a way of making the suffering before meaningful afterwards, which is something that I think a lot of us look for, that, you know, that suffering had a reason, it had a purpose.

It ended up somewhere.

Yeah, what does redemption mean to you as a human?

Emmy, your final song is from the great Alice Coltrane, from one of her many devotional albums, Unintended Segway, Speaking of Religion.

Yeah.

You've chosen Govinda Jai Jai.

God, she's amazing.

Why did you choose this particular composition from Alice?

So we're in the after now, I assume.

A good place.

A good place.

Are you in a good place right now?