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Ignacio Esteban

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Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Minds of Psychopaths: Wild Stories from an ATF Agent

about agents coming in because a local reporter got information and he went to a letter carrier and said, hey, where is this Mount Carmel with the rims on? He got lost. I heard ATF is going to hit a search warrant. I'm covering it. Have they hit it already? Well, that was his brother-in-law. And he tells him what's going on. Hey, I just asked the reporter, ATF's coming.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Minds of Psychopaths: Wild Stories from an ATF Agent

about agents coming in because a local reporter got information and he went to a letter carrier and said, hey, where is this Mount Carmel with the rims on? He got lost. I heard ATF is going to hit a search warrant. I'm covering it. Have they hit it already? Well, that was his brother-in-law. And he tells him what's going on. Hey, I just asked the reporter, ATF's coming.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Minds of Psychopaths: Wild Stories from an ATF Agent

about agents coming in because a local reporter got information and he went to a letter carrier and said, hey, where is this Mount Carmel with the rims on? He got lost. I heard ATF is going to hit a search warrant. I'm covering it. Have they hit it already? Well, that was his brother-in-law. And he tells him what's going on. Hey, I just asked the reporter, ATF's coming.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Minds of Psychopaths: Wild Stories from an ATF Agent

So rather than being sleeping and not prepared for it, they're all prepared and armed. And it's an all-out war. And four agents are murdered because of it. So those events let it trigger.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Minds of Psychopaths: Wild Stories from an ATF Agent

So rather than being sleeping and not prepared for it, they're all prepared and armed. And it's an all-out war. And four agents are murdered because of it. So those events let it trigger.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Minds of Psychopaths: Wild Stories from an ATF Agent

So rather than being sleeping and not prepared for it, they're all prepared and armed. And it's an all-out war. And four agents are murdered because of it. So those events let it trigger.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Minds of Psychopaths: Wild Stories from an ATF Agent

And then if Koresh really wanted to let those kids out, he should have let the kids out because the listening device the FBI had over there, and when they're coming, after 51 days they had enough of this, they want to get the kids out, they hear him saying, hey, they're coming, let's set the fire on. It wasn't the FBI, the feds that set the fire. He did. He started the fire.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Minds of Psychopaths: Wild Stories from an ATF Agent

And then if Koresh really wanted to let those kids out, he should have let the kids out because the listening device the FBI had over there, and when they're coming, after 51 days they had enough of this, they want to get the kids out, they hear him saying, hey, they're coming, let's set the fire on. It wasn't the FBI, the feds that set the fire. He did. He started the fire.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Minds of Psychopaths: Wild Stories from an ATF Agent

And then if Koresh really wanted to let those kids out, he should have let the kids out because the listening device the FBI had over there, and when they're coming, after 51 days they had enough of this, they want to get the kids out, they hear him saying, hey, they're coming, let's set the fire on. It wasn't the FBI, the feds that set the fire. He did. He started the fire.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Minds of Psychopaths: Wild Stories from an ATF Agent

And that's out there also. So there's events that said the government did this. Why not cooperate? You're the ones that triggered all these problems. You know what I'm saying? We have a legal search warrant. You're illegally having firearms here. He also was having sex with minors. He was doing other things, right?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Minds of Psychopaths: Wild Stories from an ATF Agent

And that's out there also. So there's events that said the government did this. Why not cooperate? You're the ones that triggered all these problems. You know what I'm saying? We have a legal search warrant. You're illegally having firearms here. He also was having sex with minors. He was doing other things, right?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Minds of Psychopaths: Wild Stories from an ATF Agent

And that's out there also. So there's events that said the government did this. Why not cooperate? You're the ones that triggered all these problems. You know what I'm saying? We have a legal search warrant. You're illegally having firearms here. He also was having sex with minors. He was doing other things, right?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Minds of Psychopaths: Wild Stories from an ATF Agent

He had some weird rules there where if you came as a couple, he was the only one that could have sex with your wife.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Minds of Psychopaths: Wild Stories from an ATF Agent

He had some weird rules there where if you came as a couple, he was the only one that could have sex with your wife.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Minds of Psychopaths: Wild Stories from an ATF Agent

He had some weird rules there where if you came as a couple, he was the only one that could have sex with your wife.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Minds of Psychopaths: Wild Stories from an ATF Agent

I think we talked a little about Jim Jones before People's Temple, but if Jim Jones in the 50s, let's say 60s, before he got really out of control, because he was a civil rights leader in some sense, integrating the churches, integrating a lot of different things. He was the first, him and his wife were the first couple to adopt a black child in Indiana. I mean, they did a lot of things.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Minds of Psychopaths: Wild Stories from an ATF Agent

I think we talked a little about Jim Jones before People's Temple, but if Jim Jones in the 50s, let's say 60s, before he got really out of control, because he was a civil rights leader in some sense, integrating the churches, integrating a lot of different things. He was the first, him and his wife were the first couple to adopt a black child in Indiana. I mean, they did a lot of things.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Minds of Psychopaths: Wild Stories from an ATF Agent

I think we talked a little about Jim Jones before People's Temple, but if Jim Jones in the 50s, let's say 60s, before he got really out of control, because he was a civil rights leader in some sense, integrating the churches, integrating a lot of different things. He was the first, him and his wife were the first couple to adopt a black child in Indiana. I mean, they did a lot of things.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Minds of Psychopaths: Wild Stories from an ATF Agent

He would die in a car accident. He probably was a civil rights hero, right? Instead, he becomes a monster in 1978 for what happens in Jonestown. So people snap, people change. Dave Koresh was a good guy, I think, at the beginning, and then he changed. And I think he became this monster, like you see these guys. He should have let those children go. There's no need to set the fires.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Minds of Psychopaths: Wild Stories from an ATF Agent

He would die in a car accident. He probably was a civil rights hero, right? Instead, he becomes a monster in 1978 for what happens in Jonestown. So people snap, people change. Dave Koresh was a good guy, I think, at the beginning, and then he changed. And I think he became this monster, like you see these guys. He should have let those children go. There's no need to set the fires.