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Ignacio Esteban

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Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Minds of Psychopaths: Wild Stories from an ATF Agent

At a time where Department of Treasury and after 9-11, everything changes, right? Yeah, everybody changes. ATF would end up going to Justice. Customs would go to Department of Homeland Security. It would leave Treasury. So a lot of things change. We're making a lot of good seizures. Ones that were kind of strange were like people who would swallow, like the pellets. Yeah.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Minds of Psychopaths: Wild Stories from an ATF Agent

At a time where Department of Treasury and after 9-11, everything changes, right? Yeah, everybody changes. ATF would end up going to Justice. Customs would go to Department of Homeland Security. It would leave Treasury. So a lot of things change. We're making a lot of good seizures. Ones that were kind of strange were like people who would swallow, like the pellets. Yeah.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Minds of Psychopaths: Wild Stories from an ATF Agent

At a time where Department of Treasury and after 9-11, everything changes, right? Yeah, everybody changes. ATF would end up going to Justice. Customs would go to Department of Homeland Security. It would leave Treasury. So a lot of things change. We're making a lot of good seizures. Ones that were kind of strange were like people who would swallow, like the pellets. Yeah.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Minds of Psychopaths: Wild Stories from an ATF Agent

The swallowers, we would get a ton of that. I mean, it is really, I mean, we got a lot, but a lot also got through. And it's really sad because some of these people were peasants, right? They would get used or they say, if you don't do it, and these are the cartels, they go in these villages, right?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Minds of Psychopaths: Wild Stories from an ATF Agent

The swallowers, we would get a ton of that. I mean, it is really, I mean, we got a lot, but a lot also got through. And it's really sad because some of these people were peasants, right? They would get used or they say, if you don't do it, and these are the cartels, they go in these villages, right?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Minds of Psychopaths: Wild Stories from an ATF Agent

The swallowers, we would get a ton of that. I mean, it is really, I mean, we got a lot, but a lot also got through. And it's really sad because some of these people were peasants, right? They would get used or they say, if you don't do it, and these are the cartels, they go in these villages, right?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Minds of Psychopaths: Wild Stories from an ATF Agent

And they pretty much forced these guys to do it or they're going to hurt your family, kill the family. Some got paid. I mean, I found it, the guys who went, let's say, if you were from Miami or you were from Puerto Rico and you end up flying to Cali or something like that, you stay there for three, four days. Like, why are you there? What was the purpose of your trip, right?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Minds of Psychopaths: Wild Stories from an ATF Agent

And they pretty much forced these guys to do it or they're going to hurt your family, kill the family. Some got paid. I mean, I found it, the guys who went, let's say, if you were from Miami or you were from Puerto Rico and you end up flying to Cali or something like that, you stay there for three, four days. Like, why are you there? What was the purpose of your trip, right?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Minds of Psychopaths: Wild Stories from an ATF Agent

And they pretty much forced these guys to do it or they're going to hurt your family, kill the family. Some got paid. I mean, I found it, the guys who went, let's say, if you were from Miami or you were from Puerto Rico and you end up flying to Cali or something like that, you stay there for three, four days. Like, why are you there? What was the purpose of your trip, right?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Minds of Psychopaths: Wild Stories from an ATF Agent

And the purpose of your trip was to swallow these pellets. And I got really good at it. I mean, you could easily have two or three pounds of cocaine in you or heroin. Heroin really started picking up in the 90s with the Colombians, right? And that's a lot of money, a lot of dope in there. But the problem with that... It's something, if it leaks, you're going to get on your plane.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Minds of Psychopaths: Wild Stories from an ATF Agent

And the purpose of your trip was to swallow these pellets. And I got really good at it. I mean, you could easily have two or three pounds of cocaine in you or heroin. Heroin really started picking up in the 90s with the Colombians, right? And that's a lot of money, a lot of dope in there. But the problem with that... It's something, if it leaks, you're going to get on your plane.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Minds of Psychopaths: Wild Stories from an ATF Agent

And the purpose of your trip was to swallow these pellets. And I got really good at it. I mean, you could easily have two or three pounds of cocaine in you or heroin. Heroin really started picking up in the 90s with the Colombians, right? And that's a lot of money, a lot of dope in there. But the problem with that... It's something, if it leaks, you're going to get on your plane.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Minds of Psychopaths: Wild Stories from an ATF Agent

It's so pure, you're not going to survive. So we get calls a lot of people are dead on arrival. They're on the planes. We got to clear them up. It's not easy to pass either. So if you can't pass this stuff fast enough, even when we catch them, we would have to take them to the hospital, MIA, and give them these laxatives. And it still takes a while to pass it.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Minds of Psychopaths: Wild Stories from an ATF Agent

It's so pure, you're not going to survive. So we get calls a lot of people are dead on arrival. They're on the planes. We got to clear them up. It's not easy to pass either. So if you can't pass this stuff fast enough, even when we catch them, we would have to take them to the hospital, MIA, and give them these laxatives. And it still takes a while to pass it.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Minds of Psychopaths: Wild Stories from an ATF Agent

It's so pure, you're not going to survive. So we get calls a lot of people are dead on arrival. They're on the planes. We got to clear them up. It's not easy to pass either. So if you can't pass this stuff fast enough, even when we catch them, we would have to take them to the hospital, MIA, and give them these laxatives. And it still takes a while to pass it.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Minds of Psychopaths: Wild Stories from an ATF Agent

These cartel members, if you make it and you're in one of these hotels, which happens all the time, you can't pass the stuff fast enough. They'll put a bullet in your head, they'll gut you, and they'll take the stuff out. So a lot of times they were lucky that we caught them because it was not good stuff for them. And even then, sometimes they still need surgery. The stuff wouldn't come out.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Minds of Psychopaths: Wild Stories from an ATF Agent

These cartel members, if you make it and you're in one of these hotels, which happens all the time, you can't pass the stuff fast enough. They'll put a bullet in your head, they'll gut you, and they'll take the stuff out. So a lot of times they were lucky that we caught them because it was not good stuff for them. And even then, sometimes they still need surgery. The stuff wouldn't come out.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Minds of Psychopaths: Wild Stories from an ATF Agent

These cartel members, if you make it and you're in one of these hotels, which happens all the time, you can't pass the stuff fast enough. They'll put a bullet in your head, they'll gut you, and they'll take the stuff out. So a lot of times they were lucky that we caught them because it was not good stuff for them. And even then, sometimes they still need surgery. The stuff wouldn't come out.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Minds of Psychopaths: Wild Stories from an ATF Agent

I mean, it's risky, it's sad, it's horrible to see these people. And this is something I'm seeing firsthand. You know, a guy home with me, I say, man, this is the war on drugs. This is how it looks like. This is what's going on. It becomes normal and natural. You feel bad because people are being used, right?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Minds of Psychopaths: Wild Stories from an ATF Agent

I mean, it's risky, it's sad, it's horrible to see these people. And this is something I'm seeing firsthand. You know, a guy home with me, I say, man, this is the war on drugs. This is how it looks like. This is what's going on. It becomes normal and natural. You feel bad because people are being used, right?