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Ignacio Esteban

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1884 total appearances

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Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Minds of Psychopaths: Wild Stories from an ATF Agent

Like you said, one thing, the real world. And the real world is you've got to know how this can be. Like I said, I grew up in Catholic schools, right? And now I have to learn this world. I learned a little bit for the drug world, which is fascinating.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Minds of Psychopaths: Wild Stories from an ATF Agent

Like you said, one thing, the real world. And the real world is you've got to know how this can be. Like I said, I grew up in Catholic schools, right? And now I have to learn this world. I learned a little bit for the drug world, which is fascinating.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Minds of Psychopaths: Wild Stories from an ATF Agent

Like you said, one thing, the real world. And the real world is you've got to know how this can be. Like I said, I grew up in Catholic schools, right? And now I have to learn this world. I learned a little bit for the drug world, which is fascinating.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Minds of Psychopaths: Wild Stories from an ATF Agent

But now I got to work face to face undercover where I pretend to be like these guys and how to fool some of these guys who are hardened professional criminals. That's all they do and make them think I'm one of them. I'm nothing like it. I was going to say, which is-

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Minds of Psychopaths: Wild Stories from an ATF Agent

But now I got to work face to face undercover where I pretend to be like these guys and how to fool some of these guys who are hardened professional criminals. That's all they do and make them think I'm one of them. I'm nothing like it. I was going to say, which is-

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Minds of Psychopaths: Wild Stories from an ATF Agent

But now I got to work face to face undercover where I pretend to be like these guys and how to fool some of these guys who are hardened professional criminals. That's all they do and make them think I'm one of them. I'm nothing like it. I was going to say, which is-

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Minds of Psychopaths: Wild Stories from an ATF Agent

It takes time. You got to practice it. And it takes years. So I had good mentors, right? I watch a lot. And you develop your own technique, right? You watch these guys. I spoke Spanish, so that was an advantage. I make sure my English was broken. I didn't sound like that. I just came back cool, right? Right. So you have to come up. I let my hair really long. I think I sent you some pictures.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Minds of Psychopaths: Wild Stories from an ATF Agent

It takes time. You got to practice it. And it takes years. So I had good mentors, right? I watch a lot. And you develop your own technique, right? You watch these guys. I spoke Spanish, so that was an advantage. I make sure my English was broken. I didn't sound like that. I just came back cool, right? Right. So you have to come up. I let my hair really long. I think I sent you some pictures.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Minds of Psychopaths: Wild Stories from an ATF Agent

It takes time. You got to practice it. And it takes years. So I had good mentors, right? I watch a lot. And you develop your own technique, right? You watch these guys. I spoke Spanish, so that was an advantage. I make sure my English was broken. I didn't sound like that. I just came back cool, right? Right. So you have to come up. I let my hair really long. I think I sent you some pictures.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Minds of Psychopaths: Wild Stories from an ATF Agent

I don't know if you saw them yet. I haven't seen them yet. Yeah, I've seen them. I'll check them out. All right. I sent some pictures. My hair was long. I had a big beard. I didn't want to get all the tats some guys have because when I got out of it, I knew I'll be done with it. Right. I want to go back to who I was. I don't want to be like, oh, great. I got this now.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Minds of Psychopaths: Wild Stories from an ATF Agent

I don't know if you saw them yet. I haven't seen them yet. Yeah, I've seen them. I'll check them out. All right. I sent some pictures. My hair was long. I had a big beard. I didn't want to get all the tats some guys have because when I got out of it, I knew I'll be done with it. Right. I want to go back to who I was. I don't want to be like, oh, great. I got this now.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Minds of Psychopaths: Wild Stories from an ATF Agent

I don't know if you saw them yet. I haven't seen them yet. Yeah, I've seen them. I'll check them out. All right. I sent some pictures. My hair was long. I had a big beard. I didn't want to get all the tats some guys have because when I got out of it, I knew I'll be done with it. Right. I want to go back to who I was. I don't want to be like, oh, great. I got this now.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Minds of Psychopaths: Wild Stories from an ATF Agent

People say, what the heck's wrong with this? So that was never me. I never really cared for it. That wasn't my thing. So I wanted to fake enough. The beard's okay. The hair was long enough. You do the accents. You get to know the culture, get to know these guys. It was easier to deal with people that they were not Spanish speakers. You tell your story, who you're working with.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Minds of Psychopaths: Wild Stories from an ATF Agent

People say, what the heck's wrong with this? So that was never me. I never really cared for it. That wasn't my thing. So I wanted to fake enough. The beard's okay. The hair was long enough. You do the accents. You get to know the culture, get to know these guys. It was easier to deal with people that they were not Spanish speakers. You tell your story, who you're working with.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Minds of Psychopaths: Wild Stories from an ATF Agent

People say, what the heck's wrong with this? So that was never me. I never really cared for it. That wasn't my thing. So I wanted to fake enough. The beard's okay. The hair was long enough. You do the accents. You get to know the culture, get to know these guys. It was easier to deal with people that they were not Spanish speakers. You tell your story, who you're working with.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Minds of Psychopaths: Wild Stories from an ATF Agent

You say, hey, these families are looking, the cartels are looking for guns, right? Because they are. And my job here is to be ATF, is to buy a lot of guns. And these guys, I don't want to fill any paperwork, right? Because I don't want to show up in no shop and put my information in there, right? So these guys will sell me guns off the street, untraceables.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Minds of Psychopaths: Wild Stories from an ATF Agent

You say, hey, these families are looking, the cartels are looking for guns, right? Because they are. And my job here is to be ATF, is to buy a lot of guns. And these guys, I don't want to fill any paperwork, right? Because I don't want to show up in no shop and put my information in there, right? So these guys will sell me guns off the street, untraceables.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Minds of Psychopaths: Wild Stories from an ATF Agent

You say, hey, these families are looking, the cartels are looking for guns, right? Because they are. And my job here is to be ATF, is to buy a lot of guns. And these guys, I don't want to fill any paperwork, right? Because I don't want to show up in no shop and put my information in there, right? So these guys will sell me guns off the street, untraceables.

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Minds of Psychopaths: Wild Stories from an ATF Agent

And you pay a premium for that because that's what you want. And a lot of these guys have horrific criminal histories. So I dealt a lot with repeat violent offenders. I dealt a lot with gang members, armed drug traffickers, international firearms traffickers, domestic firearms traffickers. I dealt with armed home invaders, cases for murder for hires. So that was ATF's niche. What does ATF do?

Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Minds of Psychopaths: Wild Stories from an ATF Agent

And you pay a premium for that because that's what you want. And a lot of these guys have horrific criminal histories. So I dealt a lot with repeat violent offenders. I dealt a lot with gang members, armed drug traffickers, international firearms traffickers, domestic firearms traffickers. I dealt with armed home invaders, cases for murder for hires. So that was ATF's niche. What does ATF do?