Ignacio Esteban

So you really, and once you, that's why I like to, once I have the introduction, I cut them out. Yeah. Done. And I don't want to deal with the drama with an informant. They can ruin your case. I put too much hard work because ATF is a very smaller outfit than the FBI or DEA, right? We have less than 3000 agents, I think 2800, right? FBI has four times that. enormous size.

So you really, and once you, that's why I like to, once I have the introduction, I cut them out. Yeah. Done. And I don't want to deal with the drama with an informant. They can ruin your case. I put too much hard work because ATF is a very smaller outfit than the FBI or DEA, right? We have less than 3000 agents, I think 2800, right? FBI has four times that. enormous size.

So we just can't delegate, hey, I need you to do surveillance. I need you to do undercover. I do everything. I'm the undercover. I'm the case agent, right? I deal with property. I deal with my own intelligence workup. I wear all the different hats because you have to, because we're a smaller outfit. If you want to do the bigger cases.

So we just can't delegate, hey, I need you to do surveillance. I need you to do undercover. I do everything. I'm the undercover. I'm the case agent, right? I deal with property. I deal with my own intelligence workup. I wear all the different hats because you have to, because we're a smaller outfit. If you want to do the bigger cases.

So we just can't delegate, hey, I need you to do surveillance. I need you to do undercover. I do everything. I'm the undercover. I'm the case agent, right? I deal with property. I deal with my own intelligence workup. I wear all the different hats because you have to, because we're a smaller outfit. If you want to do the bigger cases.

Yeah. That's the best way to do it. You have to because, and unfortunately some of these guys have drug addictions, right? Yeah. And they keep on doing stuff. They get messed up and they're not right where they're high, right? And they do stupid things. So those are the factors you got to get into. That's why I was fortunate. Some people don't want to do undercover work. Not for everybody.

Yeah. That's the best way to do it. You have to because, and unfortunately some of these guys have drug addictions, right? Yeah. And they keep on doing stuff. They get messed up and they're not right where they're high, right? And they do stupid things. So those are the factors you got to get into. That's why I was fortunate. Some people don't want to do undercover work. Not for everybody.

Yeah. That's the best way to do it. You have to because, and unfortunately some of these guys have drug addictions, right? Yeah. And they keep on doing stuff. They get messed up and they're not right where they're high, right? And they do stupid things. So those are the factors you got to get into. That's why I was fortunate. Some people don't want to do undercover work. Not for everybody.

I liked it. I really decided I kind of like playing the role. And I dealt with all kinds of people. I just told you about the variety, but I also dealt with the variety of people from different Hispanic groups, different blacks, different other European groups, right? A variety, a variety of people.

I liked it. I really decided I kind of like playing the role. And I dealt with all kinds of people. I just told you about the variety, but I also dealt with the variety of people from different Hispanic groups, different blacks, different other European groups, right? A variety, a variety of people.

I liked it. I really decided I kind of like playing the role. And I dealt with all kinds of people. I just told you about the variety, but I also dealt with the variety of people from different Hispanic groups, different blacks, different other European groups, right? A variety, a variety of people.

and uh because it worked and what i was doing it makes sense it's based on what's really going on the cartels have people they need guns right and by the way not only buying the guns but i also like selling some drugs on the side what else do you have for personal or for other use so i buy doping guns sometimes you come across some other stuff hey i have also some body armor looking for the body yeah i'll take some ballistic armor it's amazing what people start telling you and what they do what else it leads to hey i'm also doing this too

and uh because it worked and what i was doing it makes sense it's based on what's really going on the cartels have people they need guns right and by the way not only buying the guns but i also like selling some drugs on the side what else do you have for personal or for other use so i buy doping guns sometimes you come across some other stuff hey i have also some body armor looking for the body yeah i'll take some ballistic armor it's amazing what people start telling you and what they do what else it leads to hey i'm also doing this too

and uh because it worked and what i was doing it makes sense it's based on what's really going on the cartels have people they need guns right and by the way not only buying the guns but i also like selling some drugs on the side what else do you have for personal or for other use so i buy doping guns sometimes you come across some other stuff hey i have also some body armor looking for the body yeah i'll take some ballistic armor it's amazing what people start telling you and what they do what else it leads to hey i'm also doing this too

Hey, this guy is also into explosives or into this. Oh, hey, this guy's selling a lot of cigarettes without tax stamps. You know, we do those cases too, a lot less, but yeah, we do all that stuff. So it really opens up when people talk and they feel confident with you, you get a lot of your friends. And I had everything, like I said, for trial purposes, I wanted to make it like a movie, right?

Hey, this guy is also into explosives or into this. Oh, hey, this guy's selling a lot of cigarettes without tax stamps. You know, we do those cases too, a lot less, but yeah, we do all that stuff. So it really opens up when people talk and they feel confident with you, you get a lot of your friends. And I had everything, like I said, for trial purposes, I wanted to make it like a movie, right?

Hey, this guy is also into explosives or into this. Oh, hey, this guy's selling a lot of cigarettes without tax stamps. You know, we do those cases too, a lot less, but yeah, we do all that stuff. So it really opens up when people talk and they feel confident with you, you get a lot of your friends. And I had everything, like I said, for trial purposes, I wanted to make it like a movie, right?

I wanted the jury to feel comfortable. First of all, I had to make the prosecutor feel comfortable. And once he feels comfortable, then the jury. Do you hear that? Yes.

I wanted the jury to feel comfortable. First of all, I had to make the prosecutor feel comfortable. And once he feels comfortable, then the jury. Do you hear that? Yes.

I wanted the jury to feel comfortable. First of all, I had to make the prosecutor feel comfortable. And once he feels comfortable, then the jury. Do you hear that? Yes.