Ignacio Esteban

And informants are, I'd say, a necessary evil, right? Because they are the eyes and ears in the street. I can't live in the street, right? The reality is I pretend to. Right. And then I go back to the office. I get a lot of paperwork. I got to go to the prosecutor. I got to deal with evidence. I got to talk and give a briefing. So it's a whole different world. And you just show up.

But the good thing about them, even though I would cut them out, remember their eyes and ears. They can still tell you, hey, I heard so-and-so had some doubts about you. Mm-hmm. I need to tighten this up a little bit. When you come back with me and let's have another conversation with them, make sure you vouch for me and make sure, hey, this is the guy, man. There's nothing to worry about.

But the good thing about them, even though I would cut them out, remember their eyes and ears. They can still tell you, hey, I heard so-and-so had some doubts about you. Mm-hmm. I need to tighten this up a little bit. When you come back with me and let's have another conversation with them, make sure you vouch for me and make sure, hey, this is the guy, man. There's nothing to worry about.

But the good thing about them, even though I would cut them out, remember their eyes and ears. They can still tell you, hey, I heard so-and-so had some doubts about you. Mm-hmm. I need to tighten this up a little bit. When you come back with me and let's have another conversation with them, make sure you vouch for me and make sure, hey, this is the guy, man. There's nothing to worry about.

So those are the things. You keep them at distance, but you still have to make sure that they're listening to what's going on because that's important because the last thing you want to do is get caught off guard. And I was fortunate enough, I mean, there's always some very close moments, right,

So those are the things. You keep them at distance, but you still have to make sure that they're listening to what's going on because that's important because the last thing you want to do is get caught off guard. And I was fortunate enough, I mean, there's always some very close moments, right,

So those are the things. You keep them at distance, but you still have to make sure that they're listening to what's going on because that's important because the last thing you want to do is get caught off guard. And I was fortunate enough, I mean, there's always some very close moments, right,

But you're going to have, and I'll give you an example, and I put it in my book, ATF Undercover, which I talk about. And this happens, and I did a lot of work in Pasco County. And I had an undercover apartment in Wesley Chapel. That's where I live. I know, I know. I used to live there in Wesley Chapel, then moved down south when I first started working out there. A lot cheaper than Tampa in 2000.

But you're going to have, and I'll give you an example, and I put it in my book, ATF Undercover, which I talk about. And this happens, and I did a lot of work in Pasco County. And I had an undercover apartment in Wesley Chapel. That's where I live. I know, I know. I used to live there in Wesley Chapel, then moved down south when I first started working out there. A lot cheaper than Tampa in 2000.

But you're going to have, and I'll give you an example, and I put it in my book, ATF Undercover, which I talk about. And this happens, and I did a lot of work in Pasco County. And I had an undercover apartment in Wesley Chapel. That's where I live. I know, I know. I used to live there in Wesley Chapel, then moved down south when I first started working out there. A lot cheaper than Tampa in 2000.

I know, 54 is completely different than it was 20 some years ago. Well, I live off 56.

I know, 54 is completely different than it was 20 some years ago. Well, I live off 56.

I know, 54 is completely different than it was 20 some years ago. Well, I live off 56.

You're not too far from Land O'Lakes either then. No, no. Very close.

You're not too far from Land O'Lakes either then. No, no. Very close.

You're not too far from Land O'Lakes either then. No, no. Very close.

Very close.

Very close.

Very close.

Yeah. I got to know Pasco really well from making the cases. So I got to know Pasco. I don't know how much you know Pasco County, but I got to know all the way to New Port Ritchie, Port Ritchie, the Hudson area, even across New York, Tarpon Springs, and going to Zephyr Hills. So this takes place, not to this story here, this happens in Zephyr Hills.