Jack Phillips

He's a father and he's being gunned down in the middle of Manhattan. Why is that making you joyful?

Should they all be killed then? Should they all be killed, these health care executives? Would that make you even more joyful?

But it's been emotional for us as well. There were days where my wife was afraid actually afraid to come to the shop. We've had death threats, harassing phone calls. I've been forced by the government to give up 40% of my business, half of my employees. It's been emotional on our side as well.

You never know what other people are going to do. But I know this case cannot be appealed by the other side. And so it's completely finished.

I was. It was a really good ruling. The court did exactly what we asked them to do. They dismissed the case. And yeah, after 12 years, 12 years plus, it's over. And I can go back to my baking and the things that I love this business for.

The shop is still open. It's a lot different than it was before all this started. First, I just want to make sure that it's clear that we serve everybody, including the person who sued us this time in the state of Colorado, representing the two men who sued us before. We serve everybody, but we just can't create every cake and every message with our – express every message with our custom cakes.

But I know that my background was with art. I loved to draw and paint and sketch and sculpt and all those things growing up. And when I got to a job in a bakery and I found out there was cake decorating, then I knew that I could use that, my skills and talents and experience to use the cakes as a canvas to help people express their messages and special events and special occasions.

As far as being able to stand up to all this for the last 12 years, Alliance Defending Freedom has been there right from the start to help us out. But one of the commissioners compared my decision, compared religious freedom, said it was a, quote, despicable piece of rhetoric. And it's been used for all kinds of things like slavery and the Holocaust. And my father fought in World War II.

He fought. He landed in Normandy, he fought across France and Germany and Belgium. And he ended up being part of a group that liberated Buchenwald concentration camp. And for her to compare a decision to stand by my principles and not create a cake expressing a message that went so far against him to the Holocaust of Hitler was just ludicrous. So. that kind of background.

Yeah, it has been quite a journey. Back when this started, we had a fantastic wedding business, a great reputation across the city. We had achieved awards from a national wedding magazine, a lot of employees, a lot of customers. It was just a lot of fun, a lot of energy going on, and just creating cakes to help these people celebrate all these special occasions.

And now the government took all that away at the beginning, and so we're still trying to figure out what we're going to do now that the— Supreme Court of Colorado has dismissed this case. How we go forward.

Masterpiece Cake Shop.

No, we don't ship cakes, but we do have a site where we can ship brownies and cookies.

Well, thank you so much.

Same to you, Megan. Thanks for having us.