Jake Halpern (Host)

Original scoring and our theme were composed by Luis Guerra. Our show art was designed by Sean Carney. Fact-checking by Annika Robbins.

Original scoring and our theme were composed by Luis Guerra. Our show art was designed by Sean Carney. Fact-checking by Annika Robbins.

And I'm Jake Halpern. My co-host, Jess McHugh, is currently researching a book on female con artists.

And I'm Jake Halpern. My co-host, Jess McHugh, is currently researching a book on female con artists.

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Hey, it's Jake. Before we get into this episode, I wanted to let you know that you can hear more ad-free episodes from this season of Deep Cover before the release to the public by signing up for Pushkin+. You'll also get bonus episodes, full audiobooks, and binges from your favorite Pushkin hosts and authors.

Find Pushkin Plus on the Deep Cover show page on Apple Podcasts or at pushkin.fm slash plus. All right, let's get into it. Hey, I'm just recording here because I'm in the car outside the English department and I just got this letter. which was sent to me by Sarah Cavanaugh. Okay. October 12th, 2024. Dear Jake, thank you for sending me the articles and book that you've written.

Find Pushkin Plus on the Deep Cover show page on Apple Podcasts or at pushkin.fm slash plus. All right, let's get into it. Hey, I'm just recording here because I'm in the car outside the English department and I just got this letter. which was sent to me by Sarah Cavanaugh. Okay. October 12th, 2024. Dear Jake, thank you for sending me the articles and book that you've written.

You have a distinct style when posing questions that really makes one think about the messages between the lines. Jess and I have spoken twice and emailed several times to talk about my actions and the consequences of It is important to me that you know, I know and knew several months before my arrest that what I was doing was wrong.

You have a distinct style when posing questions that really makes one think about the messages between the lines. Jess and I have spoken twice and emailed several times to talk about my actions and the consequences of It is important to me that you know, I know and knew several months before my arrest that what I was doing was wrong.

I could not have imagined the laws I was breaking, but know now that I was always guilty. What is your opinion about my crime? I ask this because no matter who we are, we bring biases and I'd like to know what you are bringing to the conversation. Also, I have not always thought about others before myself and will always be deliberately sensitive to other people for the rest of my life.

I could not have imagined the laws I was breaking, but know now that I was always guilty. What is your opinion about my crime? I ask this because no matter who we are, we bring biases and I'd like to know what you are bringing to the conversation. Also, I have not always thought about others before myself and will always be deliberately sensitive to other people for the rest of my life.

I'm looking forward to meeting you, even if it's virtually. Sincerely, Sarah. This letter that I just read you, it's written on lined paper, the kind I used in grade school. And the penmanship is flawless. When I read it for the first time, I was in my car, outside my classroom at the university where I teach, and I found myself just sitting there, reading and rereading this letter.

I'm looking forward to meeting you, even if it's virtually. Sincerely, Sarah. This letter that I just read you, it's written on lined paper, the kind I used in grade school. And the penmanship is flawless. When I read it for the first time, I was in my car, outside my classroom at the university where I teach, and I found myself just sitting there, reading and rereading this letter.

"'What is your opinion about my crime?' she asked. Now that was interesting to me. It was almost like, right from the jump, this woman, Sarah Kavanaugh, had flipped the script, like she was interviewing me.' And then there was this line. I'd like to know what you were bringing to the conversation. Funny because we weren't even having a conversation yet.

"'What is your opinion about my crime?' she asked. Now that was interesting to me. It was almost like, right from the jump, this woman, Sarah Kavanaugh, had flipped the script, like she was interviewing me.' And then there was this line. I'd like to know what you were bringing to the conversation. Funny because we weren't even having a conversation yet.

But looking back, I understand now that the conversation had already started and she was already sussing me out, tuning in to me. And Sarah, she's really, really good at that. I know that now. Months before I got that letter, I got a call from my friend, Jess McHugh. She's my co-host this season. Jess is a journalist and an author.

But looking back, I understand now that the conversation had already started and she was already sussing me out, tuning in to me. And Sarah, she's really, really good at that. I know that now. Months before I got that letter, I got a call from my friend, Jess McHugh. She's my co-host this season. Jess is a journalist and an author.