Jane Goodall
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And the funny thing is that even if I hadn't observed the chimps, I probably would have brought my son up in much the same way because my mother treated us very much like the old female flow treated her young.
Oh yeah, by that time we'd built up the research station, which of course is still very dynamic and alive today.
So we're actually approaching our 40th year of research.
It's the longest unbroken study of any group of wild animals in the world.
And the wonderful thing is we have one chimpanzee, Fifi, Flo's daughter, who was a small infant when I began in 1960.
And she's the only one still alive today from those early years.
But, you know, I can go back to Gombe, look into her eyes, and I know that there are certain memories that she and I share from those early years.
And they have been known to take human infants for food, including at Gombe.
Well, at least in that part of, it was before it became a park, actually.
And so it was very, very important to keep Grubb, as we called him, away from the chimps and to always have someone with him.
And that was why, while he was sort of two and three years,
I actually spent much, much less time at Gombe and more time with Hugo, my ex-husband, on the Serengeti, which was a sort of healthier and safer environment for a small toddling child.
It was very disturbing to think that these wonderful chimpanzees might harm my baby, my precious baby.
Because up until that time, I had thought that although chimps were very like us in so many ways, that they were rather nicer.
And it was even more shocking to find, and this was when my son was already about five years old, to find that they were capable of extreme brutality, of cannibalism, and of a behavior that's very similar to primitive human warfare.
We believe that the really serious attacks on members of a neighboring community are due to a sort of territorial dispute.
We find that they're very aggressively territorial and that groups of males will patrol the boundaries of their territory.