Jason Jorjani

Which requires what? It requires a massive state security and classification apparatus to be put in place, right? Which is unconstitutional, according to our constitution. Government of the people, by the people, for the people. There was that thing, the Bill of Rights, right?

Which requires what? It requires a massive state security and classification apparatus to be put in place, right? Which is unconstitutional, according to our constitution. Government of the people, by the people, for the people. There was that thing, the Bill of Rights, right?

So on the one hand, we're bringing all this technical expertise and the projects they're working on were things they were doing in concentration camps. So we need classification for that. On the other hand, the saucer crashes, and it looks weird. We don't know what it is. Maybe it's alien. We don't know what. But it's definitely a threat to national security.

So on the one hand, we're bringing all this technical expertise and the projects they're working on were things they were doing in concentration camps. So we need classification for that. On the other hand, the saucer crashes, and it looks weird. We don't know what it is. Maybe it's alien. We don't know what. But it's definitely a threat to national security.

And moreover, the thing crashed next to our only nuclear base at the time. And it's got maybe some deformed children in it. And it's got all this super advanced technology, but still stuff we can understand that we were already working on. Mm-hmm. So you also need security classification for that. So here we have the National Security Act of 1947, which effectively creates the deep state, right?

And moreover, the thing crashed next to our only nuclear base at the time. And it's got maybe some deformed children in it. And it's got all this super advanced technology, but still stuff we can understand that we were already working on. Mm-hmm. So you also need security classification for that. So here we have the National Security Act of 1947, which effectively creates the deep state, right?

But let me, okay, so, all right, I'll finish this point and then I'll go back to talking about the saucer as an engineering design and where it came from. Okay.

But let me, okay, so, all right, I'll finish this point and then I'll go back to talking about the saucer as an engineering design and where it came from. Okay.

This deep state was already so autonomous from the civilian government of the United States, including our Defense Department, that when von Braun's team was working on the early rockets, the adaptation of the V-2 into a ballistic missile in the 1950s in Texas—

This deep state was already so autonomous from the civilian government of the United States, including our Defense Department, that when von Braun's team was working on the early rockets, the adaptation of the V-2 into a ballistic missile in the 1950s in Texas—

the Pentagon officials found out that the Germans were taking classified information to the border and meeting with Nazi officials coming from Argentina and Chile and Paraguay, meeting them in border towns in Mexico, right on the Texas border, and giving them classified information from inside of our programs. So they confronted the German scientists about this, right?

the Pentagon officials found out that the Germans were taking classified information to the border and meeting with Nazi officials coming from Argentina and Chile and Paraguay, meeting them in border towns in Mexico, right on the Texas border, and giving them classified information from inside of our programs. So they confronted the German scientists about this, right?

They were going to like chastise them, whatever. I don't know. What could they do? Revoke their clearances? Who's going to build this shit, right? But, you know, they get on their case about it. Guess what the next thing that happens is? Oops, the Germans misdirected their missiles and they landed in Mexico. They shot some ballistic missiles into Mexico.

They were going to like chastise them, whatever. I don't know. What could they do? Revoke their clearances? Who's going to build this shit, right? But, you know, they get on their case about it. Guess what the next thing that happens is? Oops, the Germans misdirected their missiles and they landed in Mexico. They shot some ballistic missiles into Mexico.

As a way to say to the Pentagon, don't fuck with us. You fuck with us again, we'll start a war with Mexico. So already by the 1950s, they had their hands on the balls of the U.S. government to that extent.

As a way to say to the Pentagon, don't fuck with us. You fuck with us again, we'll start a war with Mexico. So already by the 1950s, they had their hands on the balls of the U.S. government to that extent.

This is why you have Eisenhower coming out and making that statement as he leaves office, warning about the military-industrial complex that's gotten out of hand, and they're a threat to our democratic society, etc. Because he knew this stuff. And I'm convinced the main reason, now Kennedy made a lot of enemies for a lot of reasons. The Kennedy brothers did.

This is why you have Eisenhower coming out and making that statement as he leaves office, warning about the military-industrial complex that's gotten out of hand, and they're a threat to our democratic society, etc. Because he knew this stuff. And I'm convinced the main reason, now Kennedy made a lot of enemies for a lot of reasons. The Kennedy brothers did.

versus his interpretations of those testimonies, which is being filtered through his own worldview and ideology, and then furthermore, his own personal experiences. Because Greer came out like, what was it, 20 years ago, saying he himself was a contactee, I think from childhood. And he started doing these CE5 protocols for summoning entities and so forth, right?

versus his interpretations of those testimonies, which is being filtered through his own worldview and ideology, and then furthermore, his own personal experiences. Because Greer came out like, what was it, 20 years ago, saying he himself was a contactee, I think from childhood. And he started doing these CE5 protocols for summoning entities and so forth, right?

Because they were, you know, engaged in prosecuting the mafia and, you know, there was the whole Cuban angle with the Bay of Pigs fiasco. But I'm convinced that the main reason the JFK was killed is that Eisenhower handed this information off to him. The UFO stuff. The whole deep state problem. Yeah.

Because they were, you know, engaged in prosecuting the mafia and, you know, there was the whole Cuban angle with the Bay of Pigs fiasco. But I'm convinced that the main reason the JFK was killed is that Eisenhower handed this information off to him. The UFO stuff. The whole deep state problem. Yeah.

And said to him, listen, man, you have to get this under control because these people pose an existential risk to our constitution and our way of life. And Kennedy was going to shut them down. And even after he was executed, his brother would have pursued the same policy. So they were both taken out.

And said to him, listen, man, you have to get this under control because these people pose an existential risk to our constitution and our way of life. And Kennedy was going to shut them down. And even after he was executed, his brother would have pursued the same policy. So they were both taken out.

And I've heard RFK on record in interviews say that he believes that his father was killed by a Lockheed contractor, specifically a Lockheed contractor. Now, why would a Lockheed contractor assassinate Robert Kennedy? There's only one explanation you can come up with for that. Now, this is the place to go back to the saucers. Okay. Lockheed Martin used to be called Martin Aircraft. Yeah.

And I've heard RFK on record in interviews say that he believes that his father was killed by a Lockheed contractor, specifically a Lockheed contractor. Now, why would a Lockheed contractor assassinate Robert Kennedy? There's only one explanation you can come up with for that. Now, this is the place to go back to the saucers. Okay. Lockheed Martin used to be called Martin Aircraft. Yeah.

In 1953, there were all these stories that came out in mainstream news publications about how These aerospace, they were called aircraft companies in those days. Aircraft companies have developed the G engine. And they're about to roll off the assembly line craft that can defy gravity and get you like from New York to Australia in an hour. There are all these stories about this stuff.

In 1953, there were all these stories that came out in mainstream news publications about how These aerospace, they were called aircraft companies in those days. Aircraft companies have developed the G engine. And they're about to roll off the assembly line craft that can defy gravity and get you like from New York to Australia in an hour. There are all these stories about this stuff.

And they quoted the chairman of Martin Aircraft, Lear. Convair, a bunch of companies, a handful of companies. And the only one of those that's still active in the defense industrial scene is Martin Aircraft, which became Lockheed. Okay? Okay. And then by 1955 or so, the story disappears. The story disappears.

And they quoted the chairman of Martin Aircraft, Lear. Convair, a bunch of companies, a handful of companies. And the only one of those that's still active in the defense industrial scene is Martin Aircraft, which became Lockheed. Okay? Okay. And then by 1955 or so, the story disappears. The story disappears.

And it's at the same time, between 53 and 55, where these chairmen of these aeronautical engineering companies are making these statements, that you have physicists holding conferences about cracking gravity.

And it's at the same time, between 53 and 55, where these chairmen of these aeronautical engineering companies are making these statements, that you have physicists holding conferences about cracking gravity.

Okay?

Okay?

So the United States cracked gravity circa 1955. Right. Townsend Brown was also developing this polarization effect.

So the United States cracked gravity circa 1955. Right. Townsend Brown was also developing this polarization effect.

The other company... that has some of this tech is Northrop, which designed the B-2 bomber.

The other company... that has some of this tech is Northrop, which designed the B-2 bomber.

Which some people say the B-2 is a reference to the Brown-Byfield effect. Right. That can basically augment the propulsion of an aircraft by lowering the effect of gravity on the aircraft. Yeah, with ion wind.

Which some people say the B-2 is a reference to the Brown-Byfield effect. Right. That can basically augment the propulsion of an aircraft by lowering the effect of gravity on the aircraft. Yeah, with ion wind.

And so by 1955, they figured this shit out. Mm-hmm. and then went black. Now, let me ask you something. If we're looking at Kevlar, Velcro, night vision, lasers, transistors, and we see that in all these areas, Nazi Germany was about a decade ahead of us. And we cracked electro-gravitics in 1955. When did they crack it? There are reports that, okay, so there was a think tank in Prague

And so by 1955, they figured this shit out. Mm-hmm. and then went black. Now, let me ask you something. If we're looking at Kevlar, Velcro, night vision, lasers, transistors, and we see that in all these areas, Nazi Germany was about a decade ahead of us. And we cracked electro-gravitics in 1955. When did they crack it? There are reports that, okay, so there was a think tank in Prague

Under the direction of General Hans Kammler. It was a Nazi scientific working group. And I think it was based in Prague because they were collaborating with the Italians on this. Italians were junior partner and they wanted a country that was sort of nominally not Germany, right? Basically under Nazi control. And there are people who claim that Otto Skorzeny, remember Otto Skorzeny?

Under the direction of General Hans Kammler. It was a Nazi scientific working group. And I think it was based in Prague because they were collaborating with the Italians on this. Italians were junior partner and they wanted a country that was sort of nominally not Germany, right? Basically under Nazi control. And there are people who claim that Otto Skorzeny, remember Otto Skorzeny?

So there's a great deal of difference between those kinds of claims versus... And amassing testimony from basically expert witnesses.

So there's a great deal of difference between those kinds of claims versus... And amassing testimony from basically expert witnesses.

He came to the facility in Prague in 1944, toward the war's end. And he saw that the scientists working under General Kammler had developed a circular disc-shaped airframe. that was tremendously aerodynamic in its performance. And it had a number of interesting features to it. One is it had these vents that suction the boundary layer.

He came to the facility in Prague in 1944, toward the war's end. And he saw that the scientists working under General Kammler had developed a circular disc-shaped airframe. that was tremendously aerodynamic in its performance. And it had a number of interesting features to it. One is it had these vents that suction the boundary layer.

It's called suctioning the boundary layer, where air resistance develops around the edges of any airframe, like an airplane or anything that has sharp edges to it. And so, first of all, by making a saucer-shaped craft, you're already reducing air resistance. Then they had suction vents that would suck in the boundary layer and redirect that airflow into the propulsion system.

It's called suctioning the boundary layer, where air resistance develops around the edges of any airframe, like an airplane or anything that has sharp edges to it. And so, first of all, by making a saucer-shaped craft, you're already reducing air resistance. Then they had suction vents that would suck in the boundary layer and redirect that airflow into the propulsion system.

they also developed a kind of metal that was perforated. They called it Luftschwamm, flying foam. And it was a special kind of metal that had lots of tiny holes in it. They would also allow air to pass through. It was a very light metal, which further reduced air resistance. The same think tank, the Kammlerstab, Kammler staff in Prague, was working on this 9 to 12 foot

they also developed a kind of metal that was perforated. They called it Luftschwamm, flying foam. And it was a special kind of metal that had lots of tiny holes in it. They would also allow air to pass through. It was a very light metal, which further reduced air resistance. The same think tank, the Kammlerstab, Kammler staff in Prague, was working on this 9 to 12 foot

This one is an overview of my work in terms of the original concepts that I've developed, Philosophy of the Future was. And this one, Metapolemos, is in terms of the different domains of philosophical thought. So they're kind of good companion volumes for one another. And they're either a really good introduction to my work as a whole or a kind of executive summary.

This one is an overview of my work in terms of the original concepts that I've developed, Philosophy of the Future was. And this one, Metapolemos, is in terms of the different domains of philosophical thought. So they're kind of good companion volumes for one another. And they're either a really good introduction to my work as a whole or a kind of executive summary.

tall, acorn-shaped or bell-shaped reactor. The Nazi bell. Yes, it was a mercury-thorium reactor whose purpose was to generate more energy than is put into it. It was constantly powered by AC energy with big cables and intermittently shocked with direct current. And it would rotate, counter-rotate, drums filled with mercury and thorium isotope inside of the shell of this device.

tall, acorn-shaped or bell-shaped reactor. The Nazi bell. Yes, it was a mercury-thorium reactor whose purpose was to generate more energy than is put into it. It was constantly powered by AC energy with big cables and intermittently shocked with direct current. And it would rotate, counter-rotate, drums filled with mercury and thorium isotope inside of the shell of this device.

Right. And I find the, you know, the stuff he did early on to be much more convincing and much more solid.

Right. And I find the, you know, the stuff he did early on to be much more convincing and much more solid.

And what they realized in the Kammlerstab was we could take this thing and put it inside the saucer. Originally, the saucers were powered by rotating jets. And so we could take this magnificently aerodynamic airframe and take this reactor and put it inside it as a power source. And there's your electrogravitic saucer. Invented in Nazi Germany, 1944-45.

And what they realized in the Kammlerstab was we could take this thing and put it inside the saucer. Originally, the saucers were powered by rotating jets. And so we could take this magnificently aerodynamic airframe and take this reactor and put it inside it as a power source. And there's your electrogravitic saucer. Invented in Nazi Germany, 1944-45.

We cracked the same engineering problems and propulsion issues in 1955. So what does that tell you about all the rest of the stuff that was discovered in Roswell? It fits the pattern of the Nazis cracking this a decade earlier than we were there, scientifically and technologically.

We cracked the same engineering problems and propulsion issues in 1955. So what does that tell you about all the rest of the stuff that was discovered in Roswell? It fits the pattern of the Nazis cracking this a decade earlier than we were there, scientifically and technologically.

And by the time we were there in 55, this deep state run by Nazis already had its hand around the balls of the civilian government of the United States and had already set up the national security state to sequester this information.

And by the time we were there in 55, this deep state run by Nazis already had its hand around the balls of the civilian government of the United States and had already set up the national security state to sequester this information.

Yeah, I mean, Ian Fleming was an intelligence operative at a very high level. He was involved in surveilling Martin Bormann. I think Ian Fleming was involved in the operation of tracking and surveilling Martin Bormann, who was Hitler's chief financier. He was the money man of the Reich. And Bormann died three times. There's three different accounts of this guy's death. Faking his death? Yeah.

Yeah, I mean, Ian Fleming was an intelligence operative at a very high level. He was involved in surveilling Martin Bormann. I think Ian Fleming was involved in the operation of tracking and surveilling Martin Bormann, who was Hitler's chief financier. He was the money man of the Reich. And Bormann died three times. There's three different accounts of this guy's death. Faking his death? Yeah.

I mean, twice wasn't enough. There's three different accounts of this guy's death, right? We have to be convinced he's dead. Except that from his, from, you know, beyond the grave, he writes a check in his own name through Chase Manhattan Bank in Argentina in 1975. So Martin Bormann is still alive in 1975, writing checks for huge amounts through Chase...

I mean, twice wasn't enough. There's three different accounts of this guy's death, right? We have to be convinced he's dead. Except that from his, from, you know, beyond the grave, he writes a check in his own name through Chase Manhattan Bank in Argentina in 1975. So Martin Bormann is still alive in 1975, writing checks for huge amounts through Chase...

I don't know. But I'll tell you what I found very interesting about some of that early testimony. There was this one case, and here we're going to get into a case of murder also. Let's do it. There was this one case of this – I think he was sergeant.

I don't know. But I'll tell you what I found very interesting about some of that early testimony. There was this one case, and here we're going to get into a case of murder also. Let's do it. There was this one case of this – I think he was sergeant.

By the way, a bank whose logo is a swastika. Pull it up. Take a good look at the Chase logo. Put Chase logo swastika. Take a look at that. And who founded Chase? J.P. Morgan. J.P. Morgan was business partners. With the Dulles brothers.

By the way, a bank whose logo is a swastika. Pull it up. Take a good look at the Chase logo. Put Chase logo swastika. Take a look at that. And who founded Chase? J.P. Morgan. J.P. Morgan was business partners. With the Dulles brothers.

Yes. Keep going down. There's better depictions.

Yes. Keep going down. There's better depictions.

Yeah, it's a good question. The Ford Motor Company also had a swastika in its logo before it became politically incorrect. Ford was a big supporter of the Nazis. Ford loved the Nazis.

Yeah, it's a good question. The Ford Motor Company also had a swastika in its logo before it became politically incorrect. Ford was a big supporter of the Nazis. Ford loved the Nazis.

Yes. That we were, he was building tanks that we were blowing up on the battlefield for the Nazis. Ford was a virulent anti-Semite. He put copies of the protocols of the elders of Zion in the early Ford cars that were manufactured. You could like find it in the glove compartment.

Yes. That we were, he was building tanks that we were blowing up on the battlefield for the Nazis. Ford was a virulent anti-Semite. He put copies of the protocols of the elders of Zion in the early Ford cars that were manufactured. You could like find it in the glove compartment.

Yeah, Ford Motor Company.

Yeah, Ford Motor Company.

No, that is a Ford Motor Company. Ford Motor Company. That was their logo? Yes, that's their logo. What? I'm telling you, the guy... Listen.

No, that is a Ford Motor Company. Ford Motor Company. That was their logo? Yes, that's their logo. What? I'm telling you, the guy... Listen.

Ford... I found better ones of it before. I've put them in other interviews I've done. If you can find the drawing, that's... That's Coke. No, that's not it, dude. Anyway, look...

Ford... I found better ones of it before. I've put them in other interviews I've done. If you can find the drawing, that's... That's Coke. No, that's not it, dude. Anyway, look...

He was such a rabid anti-Semite. You know what the Protocols of the Elders of Zion is? It was a document about how Jews have a conspiracy to control the whole world.

He was such a rabid anti-Semite. You know what the Protocols of the Elders of Zion is? It was a document about how Jews have a conspiracy to control the whole world.

He took copies of that, mass printed them, and would put them in the glove compartments of the cars that he sold to people just so he could make sure everybody could read it. Big supporter of Hitler. So, okay, but this is putting our finger on something important about this, which I was trying to get at with Chase. J.P. Morgan, based in New York, was business partners, Morgan Jr., J.P.

He took copies of that, mass printed them, and would put them in the glove compartments of the cars that he sold to people just so he could make sure everybody could read it. Big supporter of Hitler. So, okay, but this is putting our finger on something important about this, which I was trying to get at with Chase. J.P. Morgan, based in New York, was business partners, Morgan Jr., J.P.

Morgan Jr., was business partners with the Dulles brothers, Alan Dulles becomes the head of the CIA, and Rockefeller. And these three together, Morgan, the Dulles brothers, and Rockefeller funded the rise of Nazi Germany from America. And they funded Mussolini too. So point being, there was already an American power base for the Nazis before the war. You see?

Morgan Jr., was business partners with the Dulles brothers, Alan Dulles becomes the head of the CIA, and Rockefeller. And these three together, Morgan, the Dulles brothers, and Rockefeller funded the rise of Nazi Germany from America. And they funded Mussolini too. So point being, there was already an American power base for the Nazis before the war. You see?

So they had the connections already to fall back on, including people at the level of Rockefeller and Morgan. To help them move money. Why is Chase clearing a check written by Martin Bormann, who died three times? Why in 1975 are they still clearing checks written by this guy? Yeah. From Argentina.

So they had the connections already to fall back on, including people at the level of Rockefeller and Morgan. To help them move money. Why is Chase clearing a check written by Martin Bormann, who died three times? Why in 1975 are they still clearing checks written by this guy? Yeah. From Argentina.

Yeah, Sergeant Carl Wolf, who, although he wasn't fairly high-ranking, I mean, you know, this is how compartmentalized information works in the military. You can be a relatively low-ranking person, but if you have technical expertise in a particular area, you have to be given a high-level security clearance because you need to work on some technical aspect of a very sensitive subject.

Yeah, Sergeant Carl Wolf, who, although he wasn't fairly high-ranking, I mean, you know, this is how compartmentalized information works in the military. You can be a relatively low-ranking person, but if you have technical expertise in a particular area, you have to be given a high-level security clearance because you need to work on some technical aspect of a very sensitive subject.

So, in 19... 38. I think it was 38, 37, 38, something like that. The Germans engage in this massive expedition to Antarctica.

So, in 19... 38. I think it was 38, 37, 38, something like that. The Germans engage in this massive expedition to Antarctica.

it's been debated why did they go down there what were they really you know going down there for i mean the simplest explanation is they had a world-class navy and they wanted to build a naval base in uh antarctica and but they brought a bunch of scientists with them and did excavations actually one of the craziest things that they did is

it's been debated why did they go down there what were they really you know going down there for i mean the simplest explanation is they had a world-class navy and they wanted to build a naval base in uh antarctica and but they brought a bunch of scientists with them and did excavations actually one of the craziest things that they did is

They flew over the ice sheet going up the, you know, trans-Antarctic mountains are huge. They're like the Himalayas. They flew along the side of these mountains and they dropped swastika flags from out of airplanes to claim the territory.

They flew over the ice sheet going up the, you know, trans-Antarctic mountains are huge. They're like the Himalayas. They flew along the side of these mountains and they dropped swastika flags from out of airplanes to claim the territory.

So today in Antarctica, if you go to trans-Antarctic mountains, there are frozen swastika flags all along the mountainside claiming the territory for Nazi Germany. Anyway, Rudolf Hess was sent down there. Antarctic, Deutsche Antarctic Expedition.

So today in Antarctica, if you go to trans-Antarctic mountains, there are frozen swastika flags all along the mountainside claiming the territory for Nazi Germany. Anyway, Rudolf Hess was sent down there. Antarctic, Deutsche Antarctic Expedition.

Good question. I mean, he was a military man. High level military man. But good question, what was he doing? Because here's what happens. Comes back from Antarctica, this Hess, right? Takes an unauthorized flight from Germany into Britain while the British are at war with the Germans already. So they're already like... I don't know if the Blitz had started yet, the bombing of London.

Good question. I mean, he was a military man. High level military man. But good question, what was he doing? Because here's what happens. Comes back from Antarctica, this Hess, right? Takes an unauthorized flight from Germany into Britain while the British are at war with the Germans already. So they're already like... I don't know if the Blitz had started yet, the bombing of London.

But they were already at war with the British, right? So Hess gets in a plane, flies by himself to Britain, lands in a field, and he's arrested. And he says, take me to Winston Churchill. Take me to Winston Churchill. Two years earlier, he was in Antarctica. Churchill refuses to see Hess. Yes. And then they come back to him and say, Churchill won't see you.

But they were already at war with the British, right? So Hess gets in a plane, flies by himself to Britain, lands in a field, and he's arrested. And he says, take me to Winston Churchill. Take me to Winston Churchill. Two years earlier, he was in Antarctica. Churchill refuses to see Hess. Yes. And then they come back to him and say, Churchill won't see you.

He's like, well, I'm here to engage with like 30 members of your parliament who are interested in resolving our differences. Now, what historians won't tell you is that Hitler made like three or four peace offerings to the British before he declared war on them.

He's like, well, I'm here to engage with like 30 members of your parliament who are interested in resolving our differences. Now, what historians won't tell you is that Hitler made like three or four peace offerings to the British before he declared war on them.

Not just peace offerings, he made offers to collaborate with the British Royal Navy and become basically military allies. They turned down all these offers. So Hess says, I'm here to make another offer to your people in the House of Lords. So he had the numbers already, right? There was a list of British politicians who this guy... Knew would be sympathetic.

Not just peace offerings, he made offers to collaborate with the British Royal Navy and become basically military allies. They turned down all these offers. So Hess says, I'm here to make another offer to your people in the House of Lords. So he had the numbers already, right? There was a list of British politicians who this guy... Knew would be sympathetic.

So when Churchill turns and dies, so what do the British do? Churchill doesn't let him talk to these parliamentarians. They throw Hess in prison and he stays there for decades and decades. And then after the Berlin Wall comes down, you know, once Germany becomes democratic, reunification of Germany.

So when Churchill turns and dies, so what do the British do? Churchill doesn't let him talk to these parliamentarians. They throw Hess in prison and he stays there for decades and decades. And then after the Berlin Wall comes down, you know, once Germany becomes democratic, reunification of Germany.

He was transplanted to a German prison, Hess. And no one was allowed to talk to him ever again for the rest of his life until he died. Why did he go to Britain two years after being in Antarctica? What was he going to tell the British about Antarctica? What might've been found there? You know? What do you think? And why did, why wasn't he allowed to talk to anybody for the rest of his life? Right?

He was transplanted to a German prison, Hess. And no one was allowed to talk to him ever again for the rest of his life until he died. Why did he go to Britain two years after being in Antarctica? What was he going to tell the British about Antarctica? What might've been found there? You know? What do you think? And why did, why wasn't he allowed to talk to anybody for the rest of his life? Right?

So it's interesting.

So it's interesting.

Well, if you believe the empirical case that's been made for Atlantis in Antarctica, which Graham Hancock made in Fingerprints of the Gods, his first book, working off of the research of Charles Hapgood and Rand Flemeth. And Colin Wilson also at one point found this theory compelling when he wrote one of his books on Atlantis. That the only landmass that fits Plato's description is Antarctica.

Well, if you believe the empirical case that's been made for Atlantis in Antarctica, which Graham Hancock made in Fingerprints of the Gods, his first book, working off of the research of Charles Hapgood and Rand Flemeth. And Colin Wilson also at one point found this theory compelling when he wrote one of his books on Atlantis. That the only landmass that fits Plato's description is Antarctica.

So in the case of Carl Wolf, he was a photographic technician and repairman. And I think it was 1965, so a few years before we went to the moon, right? We've got the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter going around the moon preparing for the Apollo mission. And Carl Wolf is called in, in his capacity as a photo technician, photographic repairman, he's called in to...

So in the case of Carl Wolf, he was a photographic technician and repairman. And I think it was 1965, so a few years before we went to the moon, right? We've got the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter going around the moon preparing for the Apollo mission. And Carl Wolf is called in, in his capacity as a photo technician, photographic repairman, he's called in to...

Plato describes an island the size of Libya and Asia combined, of Asia and Libya combined. In the Greek world in that time, in Plato's time, that was a description for a territory roughly the size of the first Persian Empire. The first Persian Empire is about the size of the continental United States, a little larger than that. Well, that's the size of Antarctica.

Plato describes an island the size of Libya and Asia combined, of Asia and Libya combined. In the Greek world in that time, in Plato's time, that was a description for a territory roughly the size of the first Persian Empire. The first Persian Empire is about the size of the continental United States, a little larger than that. Well, that's the size of Antarctica.

Moreover, Plato said that Atlantis was in the world ocean. Well, what does that mean, the world ocean? He said it was outside the pillars of Hercules, which means the Strait of Gibraltar. But he didn't say it was in what's now the Atlantic. You know, people get this ass backwards. The Atlantic is named after... Atlantis, it's named after Atlas, not the other way around.

Moreover, Plato said that Atlantis was in the world ocean. Well, what does that mean, the world ocean? He said it was outside the pillars of Hercules, which means the Strait of Gibraltar. But he didn't say it was in what's now the Atlantic. You know, people get this ass backwards. The Atlantic is named after... Atlantis, it's named after Atlas, not the other way around.

It's not like Atlantis had to be in the Atlantic because it's the Atlantic. So people named, in other words, the Atlantic the Atlantic because they imagined Atlantis had been there.

It's not like Atlantis had to be in the Atlantic because it's the Atlantic. So people named, in other words, the Atlantic the Atlantic because they imagined Atlantis had been there.

Named after the Titan Atlas.

Named after the Titan Atlas.

But what Plato says is outside the Pillars of Hercules, outside the Strait of Gibraltar, in the world ocean. Well, what's the world ocean? There is one. There's a world ocean. It's where the Atlantic, the Pacific, and the Indian Ocean all meet in a single body of water in the shoreline of Antarctica. How would they get into a war with Athens all the way down there?

But what Plato says is outside the Pillars of Hercules, outside the Strait of Gibraltar, in the world ocean. Well, what's the world ocean? There is one. There's a world ocean. It's where the Atlantic, the Pacific, and the Indian Ocean all meet in a single body of water in the shoreline of Antarctica. How would they get into a war with Athens all the way down there?

They had conquered and were controlling the entire planet. So the Greeks think they're all so important. Like Atlantis came here and fucked with us. Atlantis fucked with everybody. It was a global civilization. It's a civilization that used those 1,300 ton stones at Baalbek. A global technical civilization. So, first of all, the only landmass that fits the size is Antarctica.

They had conquered and were controlling the entire planet. So the Greeks think they're all so important. Like Atlantis came here and fucked with us. Atlantis fucked with everybody. It was a global civilization. It's a civilization that used those 1,300 ton stones at Baalbek. A global technical civilization. So, first of all, the only landmass that fits the size is Antarctica.

Second, it's in the right place. It's in the world ocean. Third, Plato said that when you go to Atlantis, you can come from one side of the world, like South Africa, and cross over Atlantis and you're on the other side of the world. Where else fits that bill than Antarctica? Where you go across Antarctica and you can go from South Africa to South America. Okay?

Second, it's in the right place. It's in the world ocean. Third, Plato said that when you go to Atlantis, you can come from one side of the world, like South Africa, and cross over Atlantis and you're on the other side of the world. Where else fits that bill than Antarctica? Where you go across Antarctica and you can go from South Africa to South America. Okay?

Moreover, if you look at the research of Charles Hapgood, who was a—actually, he was a historian, but he started to develop interesting geophysical theories, and he worked on contract for the CIA for a while. He was a history professor, but he had classified clearances, and he worked with the CIA.

Moreover, if you look at the research of Charles Hapgood, who was a—actually, he was a historian, but he started to develop interesting geophysical theories, and he worked on contract for the CIA for a while. He was a history professor, but he had classified clearances, and he worked with the CIA.

And he developed this theory of earth crustal slippage, that when you look at the flash-frozen mammoths in Siberia, who were frozen with the food undigested in their stomachs— and certain other things, it looks like the crust of the Earth slipped by several thousand miles suddenly. And this is why we have stories from various tribes who say that the stars fell.

And he developed this theory of earth crustal slippage, that when you look at the flash-frozen mammoths in Siberia, who were frozen with the food undigested in their stomachs— and certain other things, it looks like the crust of the Earth slipped by several thousand miles suddenly. And this is why we have stories from various tribes who say that the stars fell.

Earth crustal slippage is this technical term for this particular theory. Earth crustal slippage, Charles Hapgood. And if that theory is correct... And that's how the mammoths were flash frozen in Siberia. And the food that we found undigested, frozen in their stomachs, is food of a temperate climate. Okay? So it means that Siberia used to have a temperate climate.

Earth crustal slippage is this technical term for this particular theory. Earth crustal slippage, Charles Hapgood. And if that theory is correct... And that's how the mammoths were flash frozen in Siberia. And the food that we found undigested, frozen in their stomachs, is food of a temperate climate. Okay? So it means that Siberia used to have a temperate climate.

It was suddenly pulled toward the polar region, the north polar region.

It was suddenly pulled toward the polar region, the north polar region.

It happens because during ice ages... the earth gets top-heavy from all the ice that's weighing down the crust. So it causes it to slip at a certain point. And the fact that the food in the mammoth stomachs is food from a temperate climate means that Siberia was suddenly pulled into the northern polar region. If you look at Antarctica...

It happens because during ice ages... the earth gets top-heavy from all the ice that's weighing down the crust. So it causes it to slip at a certain point. And the fact that the food in the mammoth stomachs is food from a temperate climate means that Siberia was suddenly pulled into the northern polar region. If you look at Antarctica...

And you look at how Siberia slipped, it means as Siberia slipped suddenly into the northern polar region, Antarctica slipped suddenly by several thousand miles into the southern polar region. So about two-thirds of Antarctica would have been where Argentina is today. Argentina is a great place. Great agriculture, great wine, great livestock.

And you look at how Siberia slipped, it means as Siberia slipped suddenly into the northern polar region, Antarctica slipped suddenly by several thousand miles into the southern polar region. So about two-thirds of Antarctica would have been where Argentina is today. Argentina is a great place. Great agriculture, great wine, great livestock.

Atlantis would have been very habitable if Atlantis were Antarctica before the crustal slippage. So Hess, what did Hess know?

Atlantis would have been very habitable if Atlantis were Antarctica before the crustal slippage. So Hess, what did Hess know?

What they told him was an NSA facility. And I think he was stationed in Langley Air Force Base at the time. And they say, you know, we need you to come over to this NSA facility and work on this photographic processing machine. In 1965, nobody knew what the fuck the NSA was. It was so secret that people didn't even know it existed. So Wolf assumed that it was a NASA facility.

What they told him was an NSA facility. And I think he was stationed in Langley Air Force Base at the time. And they say, you know, we need you to come over to this NSA facility and work on this photographic processing machine. In 1965, nobody knew what the fuck the NSA was. It was so secret that people didn't even know it existed. So Wolf assumed that it was a NASA facility.

Okay. I mean, Plato's dates line up with a lot of other evidence that points to about 10,500 BC or 12,000 years ago. 12,500.

Okay. I mean, Plato's dates line up with a lot of other evidence that points to about 10,500 BC or 12,000 years ago. 12,500.

thousand years ago this is also when people hypothesize the younger dryas cosmic impact theory would have happened to which a lot of people think that the mammoth being frozen was from a cosmic impact that basically blacked out the sky and that's an alternative hypothesis in any case in any case antarctica fits plato's description of atlantis best and so if you were to ask me what it has on the nazis in general find in antarctica they found atlantis

thousand years ago this is also when people hypothesize the younger dryas cosmic impact theory would have happened to which a lot of people think that the mammoth being frozen was from a cosmic impact that basically blacked out the sky and that's an alternative hypothesis in any case in any case antarctica fits plato's description of atlantis best and so if you were to ask me what it has on the nazis in general find in antarctica they found atlantis

and they were obsessed with atlantis the entire nazi elite which came from out of the occult vril society and the thula gesellschaft the thula is a german equivalent of atlantis ultima thula it's a land mass At the north of the world, a vast landmass at the north of the world. Now, we don't have any landmass at the north of the world, but what is the north of the world?

and they were obsessed with atlantis the entire nazi elite which came from out of the occult vril society and the thula gesellschaft the thula is a german equivalent of atlantis ultima thula it's a land mass At the north of the world, a vast landmass at the north of the world. Now, we don't have any landmass at the north of the world, but what is the north of the world?

The magnetic poles shift like every, I forget what it is, 23,000 years or something like that?

The magnetic poles shift like every, I forget what it is, 23,000 years or something like that?

It's migrating right now.

It's migrating right now.

Yeah, which means a reversal is about to happen again. So when the Germanic people preserved this ancient myth that there was this Ultima Thula, a huge continent at the north of the world, it's probably dating from a time when the poles were reversed. Antarctica was the northern polar region and vice versa, magnetically.

Yeah, which means a reversal is about to happen again. So when the Germanic people preserved this ancient myth that there was this Ultima Thula, a huge continent at the north of the world, it's probably dating from a time when the poles were reversed. Antarctica was the northern polar region and vice versa, magnetically.

So the Nazis were obsessed with finding Thula or Atlantis and they may have hit jackpot. circa 1938.

So the Nazis were obsessed with finding Thula or Atlantis and they may have hit jackpot. circa 1938.

Well, there's evidence the Nazis were there. I mean, look up Operation High Jump. 1946, Admiral Byrd went down there with a whole fleet and they were supposed to be on an expedition that lasted months. And they ran into something that devastated the fleet and they retreated very quickly.

Well, there's evidence the Nazis were there. I mean, look up Operation High Jump. 1946, Admiral Byrd went down there with a whole fleet and they were supposed to be on an expedition that lasted months. And they ran into something that devastated the fleet and they retreated very quickly.

And on his way back to the United States, they stopped at some port in Chile, I think, and Byrd made this bizarre statement about how we have to prepare in the next world war to encounter aircraft that can cross from pole to pole with amazing speed.

And on his way back to the United States, they stopped at some port in Chile, I think, and Byrd made this bizarre statement about how we have to prepare in the next world war to encounter aircraft that can cross from pole to pole with amazing speed.

Okay, let me answer in two ways.

Okay, let me answer in two ways.

My first answer is that it could be that Plato never existed. We can completely disregard Plato. The evidence for Atlantis is overwhelming. Don't call it Atlantis. By the way, I'm pretty sure the Atlanteans didn't call it Atlantis. They probably had some other name for it, right? Other than Plato, what is the most compelling evidence? There's so much compelling evidence.

My first answer is that it could be that Plato never existed. We can completely disregard Plato. The evidence for Atlantis is overwhelming. Don't call it Atlantis. By the way, I'm pretty sure the Atlanteans didn't call it Atlantis. They probably had some other name for it, right? Other than Plato, what is the most compelling evidence? There's so much compelling evidence.

I mean, first of all, the megalithic structures that have inexplicable engineering skill behind them. In Egypt? On every continent. It's everywhere. Look at Tiwanaku in Bolivia, the Kalasasia at Tiwanaku in Bolivia. Some of the older sites in Mexico, in the Yucatan.

I mean, first of all, the megalithic structures that have inexplicable engineering skill behind them. In Egypt? On every continent. It's everywhere. Look at Tiwanaku in Bolivia, the Kalasasia at Tiwanaku in Bolivia. Some of the older sites in Mexico, in the Yucatan.

He heard NSA as NASA. Okay. And it also makes sense in terms of what he saw when he got there, which is... that when he walked into this place, first of all, he saw scientists from all around the world. And he could tell because they were of various ethnicities. He saw Japanese people, Indian people, people from multiple countries speaking multiple languages, European languages.

He heard NSA as NASA. Okay. And it also makes sense in terms of what he saw when he got there, which is... that when he walked into this place, first of all, he saw scientists from all around the world. And he could tell because they were of various ethnicities. He saw Japanese people, Indian people, people from multiple countries speaking multiple languages, European languages.

All of these sites exhibit the same enigmatic, Sacsayhuaman is another one, Oleontotambo, the walls at Sacsayhuaman and Oleontotambo are made of insanely gigantic megalithic blocks.

All of these sites exhibit the same enigmatic, Sacsayhuaman is another one, Oleontotambo, the walls at Sacsayhuaman and Oleontotambo are made of insanely gigantic megalithic blocks.

which intersect with the blocks next to them, sometimes at 12 different points of intersection, which means that either they had a way to liquefy stone and mold it as they were putting stones together, or something even more mind-boggling, the stones were all pre-cut, like jigsaw puzzle pieces, and then put in exactly the right place.

which intersect with the blocks next to them, sometimes at 12 different points of intersection, which means that either they had a way to liquefy stone and mold it as they were putting stones together, or something even more mind-boggling, the stones were all pre-cut, like jigsaw puzzle pieces, and then put in exactly the right place.

Well, either of those are insane from an engineering perspective. I mean, even we won't do that. We won't. Maybe we can just barely now, but no one in our world would ever think to try to do something like that. And by the way, that type of building, it turns out it's extremely earthquake resistant.

Well, either of those are insane from an engineering perspective. I mean, even we won't do that. We won't. Maybe we can just barely now, but no one in our world would ever think to try to do something like that. And by the way, that type of building, it turns out it's extremely earthquake resistant.

Because it wobbles and then locks back into place.

Because it wobbles and then locks back into place.

Yeah. And some of these blocks, like the ones at Baalbek, 1,200 ton stones, 19 cranes can't lift those things. 19 industrial cranes. Who did that? Yeah. All right, so look, it's written in stone.

Yeah. And some of these blocks, like the ones at Baalbek, 1,200 ton stones, 19 cranes can't lift those things. 19 industrial cranes. Who did that? Yeah. All right, so look, it's written in stone.

By the way, other cultures have other names for it. Not all cultures call it Atlantis. You find this in almost every civilization in the world, that there's a myth about a super civilization that existed in antiquity and that the people who lived there were demigods, that they were godlike people. who then disseminated knowledge to other primitive cultures in the world.

By the way, other cultures have other names for it. Not all cultures call it Atlantis. You find this in almost every civilization in the world, that there's a myth about a super civilization that existed in antiquity and that the people who lived there were demigods, that they were godlike people. who then disseminated knowledge to other primitive cultures in the world.

You find this basic myth in the Mayans, you find it in the Egyptians, you find it in the Middle East. In Iranian civilization, which is something I'm very familiar with, I wrote a whole tome on the history of Iran. In ancient Iranian culture, they called this place Aryanam Va'eja, which means the seed cradle of the Aryans. meaning where the Aryan race came from. That's what they say.

You find this basic myth in the Mayans, you find it in the Egyptians, you find it in the Middle East. In Iranian civilization, which is something I'm very familiar with, I wrote a whole tome on the history of Iran. In ancient Iranian culture, they called this place Aryanam Va'eja, which means the seed cradle of the Aryans. meaning where the Aryan race came from. That's what they say.

And they say it was a place. This is a very interesting detail. So you have all these flood myths around the world. And the flood myths are connected to the myth of the destruction of the super civilization. In all these cultures, including Mayan culture, Egyptian culture. The one exception is Iran. Iran, we talked about this first time, first interview. Iran, the name means Aryan.

And they say it was a place. This is a very interesting detail. So you have all these flood myths around the world. And the flood myths are connected to the myth of the destruction of the super civilization. In all these cultures, including Mayan culture, Egyptian culture. The one exception is Iran. Iran, we talked about this first time, first interview. Iran, the name means Aryan.

It's a Middle Persian form of the ancient Persian Aryan or Aryana. The Iranian ancient mythology is the only one that says the super civilization wasn't destroyed by a flood. It says our homeland froze. Our homeland was an island at the center of the world. It was the central continent of the world, which is what Antarctica looks like.

It's a Middle Persian form of the ancient Persian Aryan or Aryana. The Iranian ancient mythology is the only one that says the super civilization wasn't destroyed by a flood. It says our homeland froze. Our homeland was an island at the center of the world. It was the central continent of the world, which is what Antarctica looks like.

Yeah, you make a globe centered on Antarctica. You take a globe and you flip it, so you're looking right at Antarctica. It looks like the continent at the center of the world if you live there and you're mapping the world from your perspective. So they say it was a continent at the center of the world, and all of a sudden it froze over.

Yeah, you make a globe centered on Antarctica. You take a globe and you flip it, so you're looking right at Antarctica. It looks like the continent at the center of the world if you live there and you're mapping the world from your perspective. So they say it was a continent at the center of the world, and all of a sudden it froze over.

You're talking about the subglacial topography of Antarctica.

You're talking about the subglacial topography of Antarctica.

So, no, that's what you want to look at. Look up subglacial topography, Antarctica. They have found maps, like the Orontius Phineas map and the Piri Reis map, which show Antarctica underneath the ice. No one in recorded history ought to have been able to map that landmass subglacially. Look how big that shit is. Yeah. Well, it's larger than the continental United States.

So, no, that's what you want to look at. Look up subglacial topography, Antarctica. They have found maps, like the Orontius Phineas map and the Piri Reis map, which show Antarctica underneath the ice. No one in recorded history ought to have been able to map that landmass subglacially. Look how big that shit is. Yeah. Well, it's larger than the continental United States.

I'm sure there's a few Germans in there. Probably more than a few. And so he's taken into the photo lab, right? And there's another guy in there who's the same rank as him, I think also a sergeant. And before he gets to work on repairing this machine, this sergeant, and the two of them are in there alone, right?

I'm sure there's a few Germans in there. Probably more than a few. And so he's taken into the photo lab, right? And there's another guy in there who's the same rank as him, I think also a sergeant. And before he gets to work on repairing this machine, this sergeant, and the two of them are in there alone, right?

Yes. The closest point to any land is in Argentina. You think that's a coincidence? Do you think it's a coincidence that when the Nazis went to Argentina, that where they went was San Carlos de Bariloche? That's Patagonia. It's the southernmost point of Argentina that's close to Antarctica. Very convenient.

Yes. The closest point to any land is in Argentina. You think that's a coincidence? Do you think it's a coincidence that when the Nazis went to Argentina, that where they went was San Carlos de Bariloche? That's Patagonia. It's the southernmost point of Argentina that's close to Antarctica. Very convenient.

He lived into the 1960s. Into the 60s. And he died of Parkinson's related, you know, people in Argentina describe having seen him with very bad Parkinson's. He had lost the mustache.

He lived into the 1960s. Into the 60s. And he died of Parkinson's related, you know, people in Argentina describe having seen him with very bad Parkinson's. He had lost the mustache.

And... He lived, I think, a very miserable life. Because, and this is an important little anecdote, because it says a lot about Spectre. Yeah. Or as they called it themselves, Die Spinner. Their name for it was the spider. Die Spinner, the spider. The post-war Nazi international. largely based in the United States and Argentina.

And... He lived, I think, a very miserable life. Because, and this is an important little anecdote, because it says a lot about Spectre. Yeah. Or as they called it themselves, Die Spinner. Their name for it was the spider. Die Spinner, the spider. The post-war Nazi international. largely based in the United States and Argentina.

So an anecdote about the Hitler thing is when you look at Martin Bormann and his financial machinations in Latin America in the 19, from the 50s to the 70s, and you look at Otto Skorzeny and how he was operating at an international level in that same time period.

So an anecdote about the Hitler thing is when you look at Martin Bormann and his financial machinations in Latin America in the 19, from the 50s to the 70s, and you look at Otto Skorzeny and how he was operating at an international level in that same time period.

It seems that if Hitler survived decades past the end of the war, which there's evidence he did, he wasn't doing anything important. I think the guy was put out to pasture. I think basically they said to him, you know, thank you very much, Herr Hitler, but please paint your sunsets. Go back. You wanted to be a painter, right? Enjoy painting your sunsets. We've got everything under control, sir.

It seems that if Hitler survived decades past the end of the war, which there's evidence he did, he wasn't doing anything important. I think the guy was put out to pasture. I think basically they said to him, you know, thank you very much, Herr Hitler, but please paint your sunsets. Go back. You wanted to be a painter, right? Enjoy painting your sunsets. We've got everything under control, sir.

We've got everything under control. And eventually Eva Braun even left him. And so I think the guy lived a pretty desperate and miserable life, having been given the cold shoulder by the people who were actually in charge of what they were conceiving of as a coming fourth Reich. People like Bormann, Skorzeny, younger, more shrewd, competent people. And people with a more... dynamic vision.

We've got everything under control. And eventually Eva Braun even left him. And so I think the guy lived a pretty desperate and miserable life, having been given the cold shoulder by the people who were actually in charge of what they were conceiving of as a coming fourth Reich. People like Bormann, Skorzeny, younger, more shrewd, competent people. And people with a more... dynamic vision.

I'll give you an example, which really is a mindfuck. There's a lot of evidence that Skorzeny played a huge role after the end of the war in tactical operations for these people. Remember, Skorzeny was the guy who thought of using saucers in the 50s as part of a PSYOP against America. Same Otto Skorzeny, fencing scar guy, died in 1975. Shortly before he died in the early 70s, he worked with Mossad.

I'll give you an example, which really is a mindfuck. There's a lot of evidence that Skorzeny played a huge role after the end of the war in tactical operations for these people. Remember, Skorzeny was the guy who thought of using saucers in the 50s as part of a PSYOP against America. Same Otto Skorzeny, fencing scar guy, died in 1975. Shortly before he died in the early 70s, he worked with Mossad.

This sergeant can't help himself, and he breaks protocol, and he shows Carl Wolf the photographs that have been coming off this machine he was brought in to repair. And they're mosaic photographs where the orbiter will take a bunch of images, a bunch of shots, and then they'll lay them next to each other and form a mosaic of a larger site that's been targeted for satellite photography.

This sergeant can't help himself, and he breaks protocol, and he shows Carl Wolf the photographs that have been coming off this machine he was brought in to repair. And they're mosaic photographs where the orbiter will take a bunch of images, a bunch of shots, and then they'll lay them next to each other and form a mosaic of a larger site that's been targeted for satellite photography.

Yeah, I think Eichmann was prosecuted because he ceased to be useful. Right. He probably pissed off the wrong guy.

Yeah, I think Eichmann was prosecuted because he ceased to be useful. Right. He probably pissed off the wrong guy.

And they said, okay, give him to the Israelis.

And they said, okay, give him to the Israelis.

Okay, that's a complex question, right? A multi-part question. First of all, how are they crashing these things with psychic abilities? Well, consider this. If the pilot is part of the guidance system of a UFO and the pilot is integrated into the airframe psychokinetically, if you fuck with the pilot's mind, you're going to crash the airframe.

Okay, that's a complex question, right? A multi-part question. First of all, how are they crashing these things with psychic abilities? Well, consider this. If the pilot is part of the guidance system of a UFO and the pilot is integrated into the airframe psychokinetically, if you fuck with the pilot's mind, you're going to crash the airframe.

Okay?

Okay?

So you had a powerful enough psychic get into the head of a UFO pilot. Right. Okay. You can bring a saucer down.

So you had a powerful enough psychic get into the head of a UFO pilot. Right. Okay. You can bring a saucer down.

One of these Nordics, you know, in some cases with a bunch of these gray robots on board who handle the abductees. The Nordics don't like to handle the abductees. Right. Because you see this in the Travis Walton case. Travis Walton case, they sent the robots to deal with him.

One of these Nordics, you know, in some cases with a bunch of these gray robots on board who handle the abductees. The Nordics don't like to handle the abductees. Right. Because you see this in the Travis Walton case. Travis Walton case, they sent the robots to deal with him.

Then he beat up the robots. Right. big strapping guy that he was, beat up the robots, right? And he went out into the hallway, and then the Nordics were like, man, we got to deal with this guy. We got to deal really seriously. We have to deal with this guy now. So it's like they used the Greys. And then Whitley Strieber.

Then he beat up the robots. Right. big strapping guy that he was, beat up the robots, right? And he went out into the hallway, and then the Nordics were like, man, we got to deal with this guy. We got to deal really seriously. We have to deal with this guy now. So it's like they used the Greys. And then Whitley Strieber.

So Whitley Strieber, look, he's very clear that the people, the people who put the implant in were people, European-looking people. Mm-hmm. Two guys and a woman who came into his house. One stayed outside or something. Two of them came in and they did this thing. Put the implant in his ear. People.

So Whitley Strieber, look, he's very clear that the people, the people who put the implant in were people, European-looking people. Mm-hmm. Two guys and a woman who came into his house. One stayed outside or something. Two of them came in and they did this thing. Put the implant in his ear. People.

There's a Nordics. They use the greys to handle terrified abductees because who wants to do that job?

There's a Nordics. They use the greys to handle terrified abductees because who wants to do that job?

I read his work like 20 years ago or something like that. It's been a very long, but when I read it, I really read it. Like I read most things.

I read his work like 20 years ago or something like that. It's been a very long, but when I read it, I really read it. Like I read most things.

Well, yeah, because I mean, it was horrific child abuse managed by Nazis. In Mexico. They had a huge presence in Mexico. Remember what I was saying earlier?

Well, yeah, because I mean, it was horrific child abuse managed by Nazis. In Mexico. They had a huge presence in Mexico. Remember what I was saying earlier?

Is that paperclip rocket scientists would come to the border towns between Texas and Mexico and do data drops, handing classified information to their fellow Nazis.

Is that paperclip rocket scientists would come to the border towns between Texas and Mexico and do data drops, handing classified information to their fellow Nazis.

Yep.

Yep.

Who operated more freely in Mexico and throughout Latin America.

Who operated more freely in Mexico and throughout Latin America.

So MK ultra was like the light, the Bud light version. They had shit before MK ultra that was even worse. Bluebird and other things before that, that are basically extensions of the experiments on children that were done in concentration camps. That's what it is.

So MK ultra was like the light, the Bud light version. They had shit before MK ultra that was even worse. Bluebird and other things before that, that are basically extensions of the experiments on children that were done in concentration camps. That's what it is.

Okay. Now, I heard this very clearly. He has this Dreamland radio program. Yeah. It's been going on for, I don't know, 25 years or something like that. I heard him describe this in detail. So I don't know whether he wants to now not talk about it or say something. It was another way, but I remember very clearly what he described. And he did this in more than one conversation.

Okay. Now, I heard this very clearly. He has this Dreamland radio program. Yeah. It's been going on for, I don't know, 25 years or something like that. I heard him describe this in detail. So I don't know whether he wants to now not talk about it or say something. It was another way, but I remember very clearly what he described. And he did this in more than one conversation.

Once might have been a monologue and once was in an interview with somebody. And he basically said they were taken to a mansion in Mexico that was run by the same people as this Nazi doctor in Texas associated with Randolph Air Force Base. Right.

Once might have been a monologue and once was in an interview with somebody. And he basically said they were taken to a mansion in Mexico that was run by the same people as this Nazi doctor in Texas associated with Randolph Air Force Base. Right.

And the sergeant says, we found a city. And he starts showing him these mosaics, putting them next to each other. And they're high-resolution photographs of a megalithic city on the dark side of the moon. Spherical buildings, polygonal buildings, obelisks like the needles in Egypt, and dishes, he said, that looked like radio telescope dishes.

And the sergeant says, we found a city. And he starts showing him these mosaics, putting them next to each other. And they're high-resolution photographs of a megalithic city on the dark side of the moon. Spherical buildings, polygonal buildings, obelisks like the needles in Egypt, and dishes, he said, that looked like radio telescope dishes.

And he said they were put in, these children were put in situations where they were shown mutilated bodies and horrific sounds were played to them in the dark and they were made to believe that they had killed these people. Mm-hmm. Okay. Put in cages, shown mutilated body parts, exposed to chainsaws, made to hold chains, like just horrific shit.

And he said they were put in, these children were put in situations where they were shown mutilated bodies and horrific sounds were played to them in the dark and they were made to believe that they had killed these people. Mm-hmm. Okay. Put in cages, shown mutilated body parts, exposed to chainsaws, made to hold chains, like just horrific shit.

That's basically meant to produce extreme dissociation and a fragmentation of the psyche.

That's basically meant to produce extreme dissociation and a fragmentation of the psyche.

Dissociation combined with absorption. These are two somewhat counter-intuitively connected psychological processes. One, dissociation because you don't want to deal with a traumatic situation. And second, absorption, extreme attention. And you would think like these are opposite things. But there's a way to induce dissociation more or less simultaneously with absorption.

Dissociation combined with absorption. These are two somewhat counter-intuitively connected psychological processes. One, dissociation because you don't want to deal with a traumatic situation. And second, absorption, extreme attention. And you would think like these are opposite things. But there's a way to induce dissociation more or less simultaneously with absorption.

And the state of mind that that produces is extremely psi-conducive. Wow. So you might perceive things that other people don't perceive. Right. And you might be able to unconsciously exercise abilities that other people, that are only latent in most people. Okay. So that's what it is. It's a catalyzing of dissociation and absorption.

And the state of mind that that produces is extremely psi-conducive. Wow. So you might perceive things that other people don't perceive. Right. And you might be able to unconsciously exercise abilities that other people, that are only latent in most people. Okay. So that's what it is. It's a catalyzing of dissociation and absorption.

Here's one of my problems with Whitney's account, okay, is that he says that while one of these greys was on top of him, and I believe this was in his cabin. Right. He says this grey's on top of him. I won't get into the details, but he said in the moments where he could even focus on anything but her, he sees that there's all these people standing around in the cabin room.

Here's one of my problems with Whitney's account, okay, is that he says that while one of these greys was on top of him, and I believe this was in his cabin. Right. He says this grey's on top of him. I won't get into the details, but he said in the moments where he could even focus on anything but her, he sees that there's all these people standing around in the cabin room.

And one of them is a CIA officer. Right. Who he knew and recognized. Right. Okay. I mean, does that mean that there's some agreement between some of the grays and the CIA? Maybe. Or does it mean that he was given drugs and there was some elaborately staged scenario. Right. Where he was made to believe that. Right. It was an encounter. Yeah. I don't know. Take your pick.

And one of them is a CIA officer. Right. Who he knew and recognized. Right. Okay. I mean, does that mean that there's some agreement between some of the grays and the CIA? Maybe. Or does it mean that he was given drugs and there was some elaborately staged scenario. Right. Where he was made to believe that. Right. It was an encounter. Yeah. I don't know. Take your pick.

In any case, it doesn't look good. It doesn't look good. No, it does not look good.

In any case, it doesn't look good. It doesn't look good. No, it does not look good.

Good. So the cover of my new book is still up there. Well, at least part of the cover. It's called Metapolemos. Metapolemos, it's Uberkampf in German, sort of super war. And it refers to a metaphysical ontological idea, destructive departure and worldview warfare, which is kind of my reverse engineering of the basic concept behind the breakaway civilization.

Good. So the cover of my new book is still up there. Well, at least part of the cover. It's called Metapolemos. Metapolemos, it's Uberkampf in German, sort of super war. And it refers to a metaphysical ontological idea, destructive departure and worldview warfare, which is kind of my reverse engineering of the basic concept behind the breakaway civilization.

My reverse engineering, the concept that motivates their activities. And that's a huge breakthrough in understanding the nature of psychological warfare. But it's basically, as I said at the outset, No, no, no. That's Philosophy of the Future.

My reverse engineering, the concept that motivates their activities. And that's a huge breakthrough in understanding the nature of psychological warfare. But it's basically, as I said at the outset, No, no, no. That's Philosophy of the Future.

And the reason that there's a similarity in cover is that I intend Metapolemos.

And the reason that there's a similarity in cover is that I intend Metapolemos.

No, no, no. Satanion is my last book.

No, no, no. Satanion is my last book.

I write at a rather rapid pace. So Satanion came out in November.

I write at a rather rapid pace. So Satanion came out in November.

We're recording now in February. February.

We're recording now in February. February.

End of February. So my latest book, the one that you have the cover up there on, part of the cover, is going to be out within, let's say, two, three weeks. Okay. And the reason that the, yeah, if you can put the whole cover up there, it'd be good.

End of February. So my latest book, the one that you have the cover up there on, part of the cover, is going to be out within, let's say, two, three weeks. Okay. And the reason that the, yeah, if you can put the whole cover up there, it'd be good.

Anyway, the reason the cover has a similarity to the graphics for Philosophy of the Future is that it's meant to be a kind of companion volume to this. In Philosophy of the Future, I present an overview of my entire philosophical project in terms of my original concepts. And in Metapolemos, I give an executive summary of my whole project, but in terms of the different domains of philosophy.

Anyway, the reason the cover has a similarity to the graphics for Philosophy of the Future is that it's meant to be a kind of companion volume to this. In Philosophy of the Future, I present an overview of my entire philosophical project in terms of my original concepts. And in Metapolemos, I give an executive summary of my whole project, but in terms of the different domains of philosophy.

So my thoughts, yeah, there it is. My thoughts in the domain of ontology, my epistemology, my view on ethics, aesthetics, and political philosophy. So it's divided up into those domains and gives you either an introductory overview or a kind of executive summary of my philosophical project.

So my thoughts, yeah, there it is. My thoughts in the domain of ontology, my epistemology, my view on ethics, aesthetics, and political philosophy. So it's divided up into those domains and gives you either an introductory overview or a kind of executive summary of my philosophical project.

The last thing I want to say about this book is that I've included in this book, which is now, I think, my 14th book, journals which I wrote 20 years ago. So back when I was, you know... reading Whitley Strieber 25 years ago, whatever, 20 years ago.

The last thing I want to say about this book is that I've included in this book, which is now, I think, my 14th book, journals which I wrote 20 years ago. So back when I was, you know... reading Whitley Strieber 25 years ago, whatever, 20 years ago.

Huge structures, which I guess the resolution of the photographs was so good that he could tell that they weren't made of metal. They were made of something like a poured stone, kind of like concrete, which is interesting because a lot of ancient sites on Earth are made from that type of material, right?

Huge structures, which I guess the resolution of the photographs was so good that he could tell that they weren't made of metal. They were made of something like a poured stone, kind of like concrete, which is interesting because a lot of ancient sites on Earth are made from that type of material, right?

He sent me a photo of you guys when you were- That was when I, exactly. That's when I met Jack Sarfati.

He sent me a photo of you guys when you were- That was when I, exactly. That's when I met Jack Sarfati.

Yeah, that's right. So back in those days, for about three years, I kept a journal. It was a black notebook. And it's really the matrix of my philosophical thought. It's the substrate from out of which my ideas emerge. The genesis of my career as a philosopher is in those notebooks.

Yeah, that's right. So back in those days, for about three years, I kept a journal. It was a black notebook. And it's really the matrix of my philosophical thought. It's the substrate from out of which my ideas emerge. The genesis of my career as a philosopher is in those notebooks.

And I've included a pretty large selection of the entries from in there, which is a very dangerous and revealing thing to do. And it'll give people a lot of insight into what motivated my philosophical project.

And I've included a pretty large selection of the entries from in there, which is a very dangerous and revealing thing to do. And it'll give people a lot of insight into what motivated my philosophical project.

That's a UFO, but it's interesting.

That's a UFO, but it's interesting.

I thought it was Saturn. But it's interesting that it read as Saturn to you.

I thought it was Saturn. But it's interesting that it read as Saturn to you.

Well, that's interesting because Saturn is Kronos. And the Nazis called the Bell Project, Project Kronos. Our project time. Wow. The Saturn project.

Well, that's interesting because Saturn is Kronos. And the Nazis called the Bell Project, Project Kronos. Our project time. Wow. The Saturn project.

Thank you, Danny. It's been a pleasure again.

Thank you, Danny. It's been a pleasure again.

These enigmatic, megalithic structures on Earth seem to have a similar construction as what Karl Wolf made. at least what was, you know, presented to him as a city on the dark side of the moon.

These enigmatic, megalithic structures on Earth seem to have a similar construction as what Karl Wolf made. at least what was, you know, presented to him as a city on the dark side of the moon.

And so he's looking at this thing, and he... Then basically somebody walked in, and so the sergeant cuts off his, you know, cuts off this, you know, illegally volunteering this classified information to Wolf, and he goes to work repairing the photography machine.

And so he's looking at this thing, and he... Then basically somebody walked in, and so the sergeant cuts off his, you know, cuts off this, you know, illegally volunteering this classified information to Wolf, and he goes to work repairing the photography machine.

The general idea of satanic. Well, the term means the aeon of Satan. The aeon of Satan. Or the aeon of satana. And so I'm playing with this term satana. It's the name of a, I guess you could call her a goddess. Really, she's more a titaness. You know, there was this distinction between the gods and the titans, which you see in Greek culture.

The general idea of satanic. Well, the term means the aeon of Satan. The aeon of Satan. Or the aeon of satana. And so I'm playing with this term satana. It's the name of a, I guess you could call her a goddess. Really, she's more a titaness. You know, there was this distinction between the gods and the titans, which you see in Greek culture.

But anyway, he said he went home and he expected that either that night or like sometime in the next week or sometime in the next year, we would hear about this city that had been photographed on the dark side of the moon. And of course, it was never revealed, right?

But anyway, he said he went home and he expected that either that night or like sometime in the next week or sometime in the next year, we would hear about this city that had been photographed on the dark side of the moon. And of course, it was never revealed, right?

65. A few years before Apollo. And what's really disturbing is that this disclosure wave that we're in the midst of right now began in 2017, right, with that New York Times piece. Right. So around about 2018, there are serious discussions about subpoenaing people to get testimony from them.

65. A few years before Apollo. And what's really disturbing is that this disclosure wave that we're in the midst of right now began in 2017, right, with that New York Times piece. Right. So around about 2018, there are serious discussions about subpoenaing people to get testimony from them.

And then later than that, Grush now, you know, spearheaded this initiative to have people come and testify in front of Congress and release individuals from their security oaths, right? Poor Carl Wolf met with an untimely end. 2018, one year after disclosure starts, his bike was run over by a truck. How old was he? young, I mean, relatively. Can you find the story of Carl Wolf?

And then later than that, Grush now, you know, spearheaded this initiative to have people come and testify in front of Congress and release individuals from their security oaths, right? Poor Carl Wolf met with an untimely end. 2018, one year after disclosure starts, his bike was run over by a truck. How old was he? young, I mean, relatively. Can you find the story of Carl Wolf?

He might have been in his 50s or something. Wow. And, I mean, this is what happened to John Mack, too. This is how they murdered John Mack. They had him run over on the road.

He might have been in his 50s or something. Wow. And, I mean, this is what happened to John Mack, too. This is how they murdered John Mack. They had him run over on the road.

Yeah, I do think so. I do think so.

Yeah, I do think so. I do think so.

Well, he was in good enough shape that he was riding his bike regularly. Can you click on it?

Well, he was in good enough shape that he was riding his bike regularly. Can you click on it?

Just search Carl Wolf with a K. Oh, it's not this one? No, well, it has a correct underneath there.

Just search Carl Wolf with a K. Oh, it's not this one? No, well, it has a correct underneath there.

So I think it's awfully convenient that just when people are going to be subpoenaed to testify under oath and released from their security clearances, this guy has an accident. Okay. So let's go further down this path to the moon.

So I think it's awfully convenient that just when people are going to be subpoenaed to testify under oath and released from their security clearances, this guy has an accident. Okay. So let's go further down this path to the moon.

So they had these photographs, right? Those photographs went somewhere. I mean, there was a whole room full of international scientists that Karl Wolf ran into on his way to repair that machine. So these photographs went somewhere. Well, guess what? These photographs show up again later in the history of military intelligence.

So they had these photographs, right? Those photographs went somewhere. I mean, there was a whole room full of international scientists that Karl Wolf ran into on his way to repair that machine. So these photographs went somewhere. Well, guess what? These photographs show up again later in the history of military intelligence.

In the 1970s, when Ingo Swann started to work for the Stanford Research Institute on contract for the CIA... Some guy who identified himself as Lambert Dolphin, which is probably a pseudonym or codename. This Lambert Dolphin basically... he pulled Ingo Swann from out of the unit that he was working with. This unit that was basically a CIA unit, right?

In the 1970s, when Ingo Swann started to work for the Stanford Research Institute on contract for the CIA... Some guy who identified himself as Lambert Dolphin, which is probably a pseudonym or codename. This Lambert Dolphin basically... he pulled Ingo Swann from out of the unit that he was working with. This unit that was basically a CIA unit, right?

So this Lambert Dolphin, whoever he was, and Swann was never able to figure out what outfit in the US government this guy was really working for, he had the authority to take a CIA asset out of the CIA remote viewing program and put him on another task. And Swan was blindfolded. He was flown in a helicopter to a classified facility. It was one of these deep underground facilities.

So this Lambert Dolphin, whoever he was, and Swann was never able to figure out what outfit in the US government this guy was really working for, he had the authority to take a CIA asset out of the CIA remote viewing program and put him on another task. And Swan was blindfolded. He was flown in a helicopter to a classified facility. It was one of these deep underground facilities.

You see it in ancient Hindu culture as well with the devas and the asuras. Satana is a Titaness who was conceived of as the mother of the Gorgons. You know Medusa? Yeah, I just read your article. These ferocious, snake-haired, feminine deities.

You see it in ancient Hindu culture as well with the devas and the asuras. Satana is a Titaness who was conceived of as the mother of the Gorgons. You know Medusa? Yeah, I just read your article. These ferocious, snake-haired, feminine deities.

And he recounts having gone down in an elevator, like Lord knows how deep. This is in Swan's book, Penetration. So Swan says he goes down there and they want his talent as a remote viewer. And they start targeting him on these photographs that are inside envelopes. And he basically starts describing the moon. But he's standing in the middle of a nexus of roads inside a city on the moon.

And he recounts having gone down in an elevator, like Lord knows how deep. This is in Swan's book, Penetration. So Swan says he goes down there and they want his talent as a remote viewer. And they start targeting him on these photographs that are inside envelopes. And he basically starts describing the moon. But he's standing in the middle of a nexus of roads inside a city on the moon.

And he describes these gargantuan buildings, huge, titanic scale of construction. He sees the same obelisks that Carl Wolf describes, you know, like the needles in ancient Egypt. And he said, by the way, I got the impression that those were purely ceremonial. They didn't have any particular function.

And he describes these gargantuan buildings, huge, titanic scale of construction. He sees the same obelisks that Carl Wolf describes, you know, like the needles in ancient Egypt. And he said, by the way, I got the impression that those were purely ceremonial. They didn't have any particular function.

But he saw other buildings that looked like reactor domes, like as if they were nuclear power plants or something like that, and receiving dishes and antennas and so forth. So he describes this titanic city. And, you know, it stands to reason that whatever was in those envelopes were probably the photographs. Right.

But he saw other buildings that looked like reactor domes, like as if they were nuclear power plants or something like that, and receiving dishes and antennas and so forth. So he describes this titanic city. And, you know, it stands to reason that whatever was in those envelopes were probably the photographs. Right.

that were taken by the orbiter back in 65 before Apollo, the photographs that Carl Wolf had reported seeing while he was repairing that machine. So now you have a second point of confirmation. Now here's the really creepy thing, Danny. What else Ingo Swann saw on the dark side of the moon? were masses of people huddled together in ramshackle shelters.

that were taken by the orbiter back in 65 before Apollo, the photographs that Carl Wolf had reported seeing while he was repairing that machine. So now you have a second point of confirmation. Now here's the really creepy thing, Danny. What else Ingo Swann saw on the dark side of the moon? were masses of people huddled together in ramshackle shelters.

People who were naked and who were being used as slave labor. This is what he said. He said that, and now the fact that they were naked and apparently breathing while working inside craters on the moon...

People who were naked and who were being used as slave labor. This is what he said. He said that, and now the fact that they were naked and apparently breathing while working inside craters on the moon...

who knows maybe mining helium-3 or whatever suggests that there was some kind of an artificial atmosphere that maybe where they were working was underneath a transparent dome that wasn't you know visible to swan sure but in any case that that's not the important point the important point and the disturbing one is that he saw slave labor on the moon and the people who were directing it were these tall nordic looking fellows

who knows maybe mining helium-3 or whatever suggests that there was some kind of an artificial atmosphere that maybe where they were working was underneath a transparent dome that wasn't you know visible to swan sure but in any case that that's not the important point the important point and the disturbing one is that he saw slave labor on the moon and the people who were directing it were these tall nordic looking fellows

one of whom could see Swan. And this has been reported by other remote viewers, where sometimes when they're sent to a target, whether it's a contemporaneous target or whether it's some event in the past, they're witnessed by whoever's there, as if like they're a ghost, and those people are seeing a ghost. Well, this Nordic on the dark side of the moon saw... Swan.

one of whom could see Swan. And this has been reported by other remote viewers, where sometimes when they're sent to a target, whether it's a contemporaneous target or whether it's some event in the past, they're witnessed by whoever's there, as if like they're a ghost, and those people are seeing a ghost. Well, this Nordic on the dark side of the moon saw... Swan.

And he got the distinct impression, like the guy was telling him telepathically, why the fuck are you here? You don't belong here. Right. Get out of here. Interesting. Okay? Now, that fits with something else that I was told. I was told this by an officer in the CIA who had read my book, Closer Encounters. And he wanted to have a conversation with me because he told me that... When was this?

And he got the distinct impression, like the guy was telling him telepathically, why the fuck are you here? You don't belong here. Right. Get out of here. Interesting. Okay? Now, that fits with something else that I was told. I was told this by an officer in the CIA who had read my book, Closer Encounters. And he wanted to have a conversation with me because he told me that... When was this?

This was in... two years ago, two and a half years ago.

This was in... two years ago, two and a half years ago.

He's like, yeah, I work for the CIA. Can we talk? He knew someone I know. Oh, okay. And he got in touch through that person. And he... Anyway, I don't want to go off on a tangent, but long story short, he was like, how did you put all these... jigsaw puzzle pieces together. He was looking to see if there was a leak and whether it needed to be plugged.

He's like, yeah, I work for the CIA. Can we talk? He knew someone I know. Oh, okay. And he got in touch through that person. And he... Anyway, I don't want to go off on a tangent, but long story short, he was like, how did you put all these... jigsaw puzzle pieces together. He was looking to see if there was a leak and whether it needed to be plugged.

Well, no. Medea was the chief priestess of them.

Well, no. Medea was the chief priestess of them.

She was a witch who basically did the most to institutionalize and organize the cult of these Gorgons. And the chief Gorgon, the kind of mother of the Coven of Gorgons, is Satana. This was a cult that existed in the Caucasus going back to probably at least 1000 BC. And what's interesting about... First of all, the name originally, Satana, in old Iranian language, it means mother of a hundred.

She was a witch who basically did the most to institutionalize and organize the cult of these Gorgons. And the chief Gorgon, the kind of mother of the Coven of Gorgons, is Satana. This was a cult that existed in the Caucasus going back to probably at least 1000 BC. And what's interesting about... First of all, the name originally, Satana, in old Iranian language, it means mother of a hundred.

Because he said that there were too many things in my book that were the same conclusions that they had reached based on having access to classified information. And he was wondering how the hell I put these same pieces together in the same way. But this moon stuff? All kinds of things. The subjects that I discuss in this book, Closer Encounters. But the moon came up, among other things.

Because he said that there were too many things in my book that were the same conclusions that they had reached based on having access to classified information. And he was wondering how the hell I put these same pieces together in the same way. But this moon stuff? All kinds of things. The subjects that I discuss in this book, Closer Encounters. But the moon came up, among other things.

Writing.

Writing.

And he said, listen, after Swan was sent, we kept sending people to the moon. Remote viewers. And we distinctly got the message from these guys on the moon, do not keep sending people here. This is off limits. And we didn't listen to them. And the last viewer that we sent up there, his soul is trapped on the moon. His body is in a coma in a special medical facility run by the CIA.

And he said, listen, after Swan was sent, we kept sending people to the moon. Remote viewers. And we distinctly got the message from these guys on the moon, do not keep sending people here. This is off limits. And we didn't listen to them. And the last viewer that we sent up there, his soul is trapped on the moon. His body is in a coma in a special medical facility run by the CIA.

And his family has been given medical compensation or whatever. They told his family that the guy had died in the line of duty or whatever. And he's been held in stasis for years and years as they wait for his soul to come back from the moon, where apparently there's the capacity to lure and trap somebody's consciousness.

And his family has been given medical compensation or whatever. They told his family that the guy had died in the line of duty or whatever. And he's been held in stasis for years and years as they wait for his soul to come back from the moon, where apparently there's the capacity to lure and trap somebody's consciousness.

Which they finally did to one of these CIA remote viewers after repeatedly telling them not to surveil whatever's going on up there.

Which they finally did to one of these CIA remote viewers after repeatedly telling them not to surveil whatever's going on up there.

I read his book, Psychic Warrior.

I read his book, Psychic Warrior.

You know, I mean, one of the few silver linings to being banned from academia is it leaves you all your time to do writing.

You know, I mean, one of the few silver linings to being banned from academia is it leaves you all your time to do writing.

I don't know whether he was being blocked or what, but I can tell you some other things about the moon that are much creepier than a city on the dark side of it.

I don't know whether he was being blocked or what, but I can tell you some other things about the moon that are much creepier than a city on the dark side of it.

Well, because that side faces away from us all the time.

Well, because that side faces away from us all the time.

Of course. Of course. That's the convenient place to put it. There's also another reason that's technical, which is that if you put, you know, we've been studying this in terms of potential lunar colonization.

Of course. Of course. That's the convenient place to put it. There's also another reason that's technical, which is that if you put, you know, we've been studying this in terms of potential lunar colonization.

that if you put listening telescopes, like the Arecibo dish, stuff that's meant to convey signals across space, if you put it on the side of the moon that faces the Earth, there's too much interference with radio signals coming from the Earth.

that if you put listening telescopes, like the Arecibo dish, stuff that's meant to convey signals across space, if you put it on the side of the moon that faces the Earth, there's too much interference with radio signals coming from the Earth.

So if you want to have basically interspace communication from the moon to elsewhere, it's better to put something on the side that always faces away from us so that you're not bombarded with radio signals that are being transmitted from the earth. That's a technical reason why you would do it. But mainly I think it's for concealment purposes.

So if you want to have basically interspace communication from the moon to elsewhere, it's better to put something on the side that always faces away from us so that you're not bombarded with radio signals that are being transmitted from the earth. That's a technical reason why you would do it. But mainly I think it's for concealment purposes.

Okay, but the story of what's going on on the moon is a lot more... it's a lot more startling than finding a city on the dark side of it, right? Because you could be dealing with a natural satellite that has been colonized at who knows what time by whatever space-faring civilization. No, it looks like there's a much more disturbing scenario here.

Okay, but the story of what's going on on the moon is a lot more... it's a lot more startling than finding a city on the dark side of it, right? Because you could be dealing with a natural satellite that has been colonized at who knows what time by whatever space-faring civilization. No, it looks like there's a much more disturbing scenario here.

And our government became aware of this during Apollo 12 and 13. During Apollo 12, I think it was the lander that impacted the moon. in a way that set off a seismometer that had been pre-positioned there. There was a seismograph that was pre-positioned on the moon. And when the Apollo 12 lander hit the surface of the moon...

And our government became aware of this during Apollo 12 and 13. During Apollo 12, I think it was the lander that impacted the moon. in a way that set off a seismometer that had been pre-positioned there. There was a seismograph that was pre-positioned on the moon. And when the Apollo 12 lander hit the surface of the moon...

The signal that came from the seismograph was consistent with the ringing or vibration of a hollow object. Right. So the way that the shockwave passed through the moon suggested that there was very little inside the moon. Right. Okay? It rang like a bell, as they described it. For a while, right? In the first case, it was for almost an hour. Mm-hmm.

The signal that came from the seismograph was consistent with the ringing or vibration of a hollow object. Right. So the way that the shockwave passed through the moon suggested that there was very little inside the moon. Right. Okay? It rang like a bell, as they described it. For a while, right? In the first case, it was for almost an hour. Mm-hmm.

So then they got curious about this, and in Apollo 13, they deliberately crashed the third stage of Apollo 13 into the surface of the moon to carry out a test to see whether this was a repeatable phenomenon, right? And this time, the seismograph not only confirmed the resonance passing through a hollow object, but the moon rang like a bell for three hours, right?

So then they got curious about this, and in Apollo 13, they deliberately crashed the third stage of Apollo 13 into the surface of the moon to carry out a test to see whether this was a repeatable phenomenon, right? And this time, the seismograph not only confirmed the resonance passing through a hollow object, but the moon rang like a bell for three hours, right?

Because she was believed to be the initiatrix of heroes. She would take these champions under the Caspian Sea into what was believed to be an underwater city. And she would train them and initiate them and confer a broadsword on them and also potentially allow them to look into this grail that she was the keeper of.

Because she was believed to be the initiatrix of heroes. She would take these champions under the Caspian Sea into what was believed to be an underwater city. And she would train them and initiate them and confer a broadsword on them and also potentially allow them to look into this grail that she was the keeper of.

And they were able to tell how much, more or less, of the moon is apparently hollow. Right. And it's really shocking. It's like the moon goes down for about 20 miles as a solid structure, and then on the inside... There's a distance of about 1,000 miles radially, 1,000 miles from the interior of the shell to the core, radially in every direction.

And they were able to tell how much, more or less, of the moon is apparently hollow. Right. And it's really shocking. It's like the moon goes down for about 20 miles as a solid structure, and then on the inside... There's a distance of about 1,000 miles radially, 1,000 miles from the interior of the shell to the core, radially in every direction.

In other words, the distance between Los Angeles and Seattle or New York and St. Louis or Paris and Prague.

In other words, the distance between Los Angeles and Seattle or New York and St. Louis or Paris and Prague.

i suspect that it's not natural caverns but that what they're seeing are the hollows between all kinds of com complex machinery that are inside that structure one of the other things that they noted with these impact tests was that the moon sort of it seemed to compensate and correct for the impact in a way that suggested there were oscillators inside the structure right

i suspect that it's not natural caverns but that what they're seeing are the hollows between all kinds of com complex machinery that are inside that structure one of the other things that they noted with these impact tests was that the moon sort of it seemed to compensate and correct for the impact in a way that suggested there were oscillators inside the structure right

So I think probably there's machinery inside this thing. Now, another data point that corroborates that, going back to the remote viewers, is that... Joe McMoneagle was tasked with remote viewing Mars in 1984, and this was a CIA operation run at the Monroe Institute. So it was the CIA. He was working on contract for the CIA, and this was done at the Monroe Institute.

So I think probably there's machinery inside this thing. Now, another data point that corroborates that, going back to the remote viewers, is that... Joe McMoneagle was tasked with remote viewing Mars in 1984, and this was a CIA operation run at the Monroe Institute. So it was the CIA. He was working on contract for the CIA, and this was done at the Monroe Institute.

I think he might have been. Well, no, I think Ingo Swann was the first remote viewer. Okay. But I think he had the designation 001 or something like that.

I think he might have been. Well, no, I think Ingo Swann was the first remote viewer. Okay. But I think he had the designation 001 or something like that.

Yeah. But in any case, in 1984, Monroe Institute, and this has since been released. This is one of these classified documents that has since been declassified. It's called, like, Mars 1,000,000 B.C. You can look it up. Joe McMoneagle. Mars 1,000,000 B.C. Yeah, Joe McMoneagle. And so, look, Joe McMoneagle... is tasked to look at He doesn't know, of course. He's working blind to the target.

Yeah. But in any case, in 1984, Monroe Institute, and this has since been released. This is one of these classified documents that has since been declassified. It's called, like, Mars 1,000,000 B.C. You can look it up. Joe McMoneagle. Mars 1,000,000 B.C. Yeah, Joe McMoneagle. And so, look, Joe McMoneagle... is tasked to look at He doesn't know, of course. He's working blind to the target.

That's how remote viewing is, right? But what's inside these envelopes are the photographs that the Viking probe took on Mars in 1976, where we got back these images of the pyramids and the fort and the face, infamously, right? So there are all these apparent... man-made megalithic structures in the Cydonia region of Mars, which were first photographed by the Viking mission in 1976.

That's how remote viewing is, right? But what's inside these envelopes are the photographs that the Viking probe took on Mars in 1976, where we got back these images of the pyramids and the fort and the face, infamously, right? So there are all these apparent... man-made megalithic structures in the Cydonia region of Mars, which were first photographed by the Viking mission in 1976.

And that's what was inside these envelopes when McMoneagle was doing this remote viewing session. And he described being in the midst of the ruins of a megalithic city, With gigantic pyramids, he said they seemed like they were maybe three times the size of the Great Pyramid in Giza. Wow. And he described... Part of the Stargate Project.

And that's what was inside these envelopes when McMoneagle was doing this remote viewing session. And he described being in the midst of the ruins of a megalithic city, With gigantic pyramids, he said they seemed like they were maybe three times the size of the Great Pyramid in Giza. Wow. And he described... Part of the Stargate Project.

Yeah, he described a maze of structures under these pyramids, like subterranean tunnels and hallways. Mm-hmm. At one point, he walks through one of these hallways, and it leads to an opening, and he finds himself on the outside of the pyramid looking up at it.

Yeah, he described a maze of structures under these pyramids, like subterranean tunnels and hallways. Mm-hmm. At one point, he walks through one of these hallways, and it leads to an opening, and he finds himself on the outside of the pyramid looking up at it.

So much, much later, like 1,500 years, 1,800 years later, this mythos would eventually make its way into Europe together with the migration of the Scythian and Sarmatian people, and it would become what's known as the Arthurian mythos in Europe, where this figure Satana becomes the Lady of the Lake, and then Arthur, King Arthur, becomes the archetypal hero of...

So much, much later, like 1,500 years, 1,800 years later, this mythos would eventually make its way into Europe together with the migration of the Scythian and Sarmatian people, and it would become what's known as the Arthurian mythos in Europe, where this figure Satana becomes the Lady of the Lake, and then Arthur, King Arthur, becomes the archetypal hero of...

looking up across the face of the pyramid. And he describes also these... these highways that are trenches. They're these perfectly geometric trenches cut across miles and miles of Mars' surface. And he said his impression was that they were used for a craft. Like, you know, there are bad storms on Mars, right?

looking up across the face of the pyramid. And he describes also these... these highways that are trenches. They're these perfectly geometric trenches cut across miles and miles of Mars' surface. And he said his impression was that they were used for a craft. Like, you know, there are bad storms on Mars, right?

So if you had hovercraft, hovercars or whatever, you would want them to be transiting through something that had high walls on either side. That was a, you know, sunken... Channel to avoid a sandstorm avoid a sandstorm passing over the top of your head. Yeah, like some Star Wars This is basically he describes this okay during his remote viewing session.

So if you had hovercraft, hovercars or whatever, you would want them to be transiting through something that had high walls on either side. That was a, you know, sunken... Channel to avoid a sandstorm avoid a sandstorm passing over the top of your head. Yeah, like some Star Wars This is basically he describes this okay during his remote viewing session.

Yeah, but he says look the civilization is long dead I'm seeing you know the ruins of a civilization that once was Eons before this and he was tasked at 1 million BC So they said to him okay, so go back to when these people were still alive and thriving and he goes way way back and Now, we can infer from another data point that I'll come to, you know, how far back he went.

Yeah, but he says look the civilization is long dead I'm seeing you know the ruins of a civilization that once was Eons before this and he was tasked at 1 million BC So they said to him okay, so go back to when these people were still alive and thriving and he goes way way back and Now, we can infer from another data point that I'll come to, you know, how far back he went.

But he doesn't say in the session. But he goes back to when these people were around. And then he describes Nordic-looking, super tall people in skin-tight jumpsuits. People. People. who looked like Scandinavians, except he said they had more like, I don't know, like between an Olympic swimmer and a football player's physique with very broad shoulders, not an ounce of body fat.

But he doesn't say in the session. But he goes back to when these people were around. And then he describes Nordic-looking, super tall people in skin-tight jumpsuits. People. People. who looked like Scandinavians, except he said they had more like, I don't know, like between an Olympic swimmer and a football player's physique with very broad shoulders, not an ounce of body fat.

He said he could see all their musculature through their skin-tight suits. And what McMoneagle relates is that these people were facing the end of their civilization. And some of them had this, what he describes as very philosophical sense of resignation, where they were like, well, we had our time. It's not fair for us to ask for more time.

He said he could see all their musculature through their skin-tight suits. And what McMoneagle relates is that these people were facing the end of their civilization. And some of them had this, what he describes as very philosophical sense of resignation, where they were like, well, we had our time. It's not fair for us to ask for more time.

We've had more time than we should have had, some of them. And some of them are still trying to survive and endure. And the ones who are trying to survive, he says, they've looked for a way out. And no matter what they do, they can't seem to find a way out. Just pin that somewhere, right? Then he says, they designed and got into a spacecraft that was cylindrical.

We've had more time than we should have had, some of them. And some of them are still trying to survive and endure. And the ones who are trying to survive, he says, they've looked for a way out. And no matter what they do, they can't seem to find a way out. Just pin that somewhere, right? Then he says, they designed and got into a spacecraft that was cylindrical.

which is very much the description of a lot of these cylinder-shaped, cigar-shaped UFOs, metallic cigar-shaped craft. And they went to another planet, which they were scouting out to see whether it was a viable world for them to relocate to. And this other planet was nothing like Mars. It was very green. overgrown with vegetation, in fact.

which is very much the description of a lot of these cylinder-shaped, cigar-shaped UFOs, metallic cigar-shaped craft. And they went to another planet, which they were scouting out to see whether it was a viable world for them to relocate to. And this other planet was nothing like Mars. It was very green. overgrown with vegetation, in fact.

But there were constant storms on it, electrical storms, typhoons. There was a lot of volcanic activity on this planet. And they basically concluded that they couldn't settle there without altering the planet, without terraforming it in some way to make it more habitable. So... This is a long conversation to have during a remote viewing session. Yeah, so they got all this out of him, right?

But there were constant storms on it, electrical storms, typhoons. There was a lot of volcanic activity on this planet. And they basically concluded that they couldn't settle there without altering the planet, without terraforming it in some way to make it more habitable. So... This is a long conversation to have during a remote viewing session. Yeah, so they got all this out of him, right?

I think those are all the important points. Very detailed. Yes. So now you put this next to what Dr. John Brandenburg discovered regarding Mars. Dr. Brandenburg, who I got to spend a few days with in New Mexico a number of years ago, he worked on the Clementine mission for NASA. And at one point he was working at Sandia Labs, which is where I think a lot of the nuclear weapons are designed.

I think those are all the important points. Very detailed. Yes. So now you put this next to what Dr. John Brandenburg discovered regarding Mars. Dr. Brandenburg, who I got to spend a few days with in New Mexico a number of years ago, he worked on the Clementine mission for NASA. And at one point he was working at Sandia Labs, which is where I think a lot of the nuclear weapons are designed.

who is initiated by this grail mistress and who's given the broadsword and so forth. So the mythos of Satana is the most primordial form of what later becomes the Arthurian grail mysticism of Europe, of Gothic Europe. And Celtic Europe. And it's brought there by these Caucasian Iranian people, these northern Iranian people called the Scythians and Sarmatians.

who is initiated by this grail mistress and who's given the broadsword and so forth. So the mythos of Satana is the most primordial form of what later becomes the Arthurian grail mysticism of Europe, of Gothic Europe. And Celtic Europe. And it's brought there by these Caucasian Iranian people, these northern Iranian people called the Scythians and Sarmatians.

Mm-hmm. And he was looking at isotopic data from Mars. So every planet has certain amount of isotopes of different materials and metals and so forth on it. Right. And apparently the isotopic ratio of xenon-129 is consistent across the entire solar system, except for on Mars and our thermonuclear test sites on Earth.

Mm-hmm. And he was looking at isotopic data from Mars. So every planet has certain amount of isotopes of different materials and metals and so forth on it. Right. And apparently the isotopic ratio of xenon-129 is consistent across the entire solar system, except for on Mars and our thermonuclear test sites on Earth.

There's a deviation from the norm of the isotopic signature of xenon-129 at our thermonuclear test sites on Earth. And we find the same thing at Cydonia on Mars. Why is it different on nuclear test sites? Something happens when, and it has to be not an atomic bomb, but a thermonuclear bomb. When a thermonuclear bomb is detonated, that leaves a trace of xenon-129 in that area where...

There's a deviation from the norm of the isotopic signature of xenon-129 at our thermonuclear test sites on Earth. And we find the same thing at Cydonia on Mars. Why is it different on nuclear test sites? Something happens when, and it has to be not an atomic bomb, but a thermonuclear bomb. When a thermonuclear bomb is detonated, that leaves a trace of xenon-129 in that area where...

which is not the normal, basically, distribution of that isotope that you would find on Earth or on any of the other rocky bodies in the solar system. And according to Brandenburg, it's a very distinct signature. It's unmistakable, and it's very specifically associated with thermonuclear weapons detonation.

which is not the normal, basically, distribution of that isotope that you would find on Earth or on any of the other rocky bodies in the solar system. And according to Brandenburg, it's a very distinct signature. It's unmistakable, and it's very specifically associated with thermonuclear weapons detonation.

Then, after he discussed this with one of the scientists at Sandia Labs, whose expertise is working on nuclear weapons... He checked for other isotopes, and he saw that the isotopic ratio of thorium and uranium was also off at Cydonia in a way that matched thermonuclear test sites.

Then, after he discussed this with one of the scientists at Sandia Labs, whose expertise is working on nuclear weapons... He checked for other isotopes, and he saw that the isotopic ratio of thorium and uranium was also off at Cydonia in a way that matched thermonuclear test sites.

And so he came to the conclusion that, and even did the math, like how many nukes would you have had to detonate in this place to produce this kind of a deviation? Turns out that an empire state building's worth of our highest yield thermonuclear warheads would have had to have been detonated there to produce this kind of isotopic signature.

And so he came to the conclusion that, and even did the math, like how many nukes would you have had to detonate in this place to produce this kind of a deviation? Turns out that an empire state building's worth of our highest yield thermonuclear warheads would have had to have been detonated there to produce this kind of isotopic signature.

And this is exactly the same place where we find these blasted megalithic structures on the surface of Mars. So there's a nuclear war on Mars. So Brandenburg's thesis is that there was a nuclear war on Mars.

And this is exactly the same place where we find these blasted megalithic structures on the surface of Mars. So there's a nuclear war on Mars. So Brandenburg's thesis is that there was a nuclear war on Mars.

It would definitely have been a contributing factor. I want to come around to what I think might have been another factor in that. Okay. But definitely would have been a contributing factor. But we were on about the moon. So why am I going on this detour to Mars? Yeah. Because when you put Brandenburg's research next to what Joe McMoneagle saw.

It would definitely have been a contributing factor. I want to come around to what I think might have been another factor in that. Okay. But definitely would have been a contributing factor. But we were on about the moon. So why am I going on this detour to Mars? Yeah. Because when you put Brandenburg's research next to what Joe McMoneagle saw.

And by the way, while we're on this subject, Ingo Swann was also tasked, independently of Joe McMoneagle, to look at Mars twice. Once was in 1976, I think, and the other was in 1984, same year that McMoneagle did his, But Swan's team and McMoneagle were unaware of each other. Obviously, this makes sense as protocol. They wanted two sets of remote viewers on the same target to get corroboration.

And by the way, while we're on this subject, Ingo Swann was also tasked, independently of Joe McMoneagle, to look at Mars twice. Once was in 1976, I think, and the other was in 1984, same year that McMoneagle did his, But Swan's team and McMoneagle were unaware of each other. Obviously, this makes sense as protocol. They wanted two sets of remote viewers on the same target to get corroboration.

And Swan did his with a whole team of people. McMoneagle worked alone at the Monroe Institute. Swan had like five or six people working with him. And in 1984, and also in the viewing in, I think, 76 or so, Ingo Swann and his team described exactly the same thing as Joe McMoneagle. They described a civilization on Mars.

And Swan did his with a whole team of people. McMoneagle worked alone at the Monroe Institute. Swan had like five or six people working with him. And in 1984, and also in the viewing in, I think, 76 or so, Ingo Swann and his team described exactly the same thing as Joe McMoneagle. They described a civilization on Mars.

most of which was in ruins and was vastly ancient, but other parts of which still survived under the surface.

most of which was in ruins and was vastly ancient, but other parts of which still survived under the surface.

He described a honeycomb of cities under the surface of Mars and some structures on the surface, which were like relaying information and being used as transportation beacons and had been built by this civilization that is still active under the surface of Mars, cities that are subterranean. So, okay, but this all came from out of discussing the moon.

He described a honeycomb of cities under the surface of Mars and some structures on the surface, which were like relaying information and being used as transportation beacons and had been built by this civilization that is still active under the surface of Mars, cities that are subterranean. So, okay, but this all came from out of discussing the moon.

The Greeks also called the Sarmatians Amazons. Their whole legends about warrior women come from this culture because they had female warriors. In fact, I mean, they were arguably a matriarchal culture with female rulers and female warriors. Very unusual culture because they also... I think were the first people to invent iron warfare implements and chainmail armor.

The Greeks also called the Sarmatians Amazons. Their whole legends about warrior women come from this culture because they had female warriors. In fact, I mean, they were arguably a matriarchal culture with female rulers and female warriors. Very unusual culture because they also... I think were the first people to invent iron warfare implements and chainmail armor.

When you put the remote viewing data next to Brandenburg's thesis, what it suggests, oh, and Brandenburg, his estimation was that this nuclear event in Cydonia took place maybe 100 million years ago. Maybe 100 million years ago.

When you put the remote viewing data next to Brandenburg's thesis, what it suggests, oh, and Brandenburg, his estimation was that this nuclear event in Cydonia took place maybe 100 million years ago. Maybe 100 million years ago.

65 million years ago. Right? So it's a ballpark. And when you put these two sets of data together, as I did in my book Closer Encounters, the conclusion that emerges is that the moon was constructed by these survivors of some kind of apocalypse on Mars. And it probably had at least two functions initially. One was to transport a shit ton of people over here. The moon?

65 million years ago. Right? So it's a ballpark. And when you put these two sets of data together, as I did in my book Closer Encounters, the conclusion that emerges is that the moon was constructed by these survivors of some kind of apocalypse on Mars. And it probably had at least two functions initially. One was to transport a shit ton of people over here. The moon?

And the other one was to act as a terraforming device. So if we didn't have the moon where it is in this extremely stable orbit that it's in, right?

And the other one was to act as a terraforming device. So if we didn't have the moon where it is in this extremely stable orbit that it's in, right?

We would have eight-hour days. The Earth would be spinning much faster than it is right now. The Earth would also not be as stable as it is. There have been calculations done that show that the Earth would be prone to toppling over at odd intervals. Well, all planets have moons, right? Yes, but only our moon stabilizes a planet to the extent...

We would have eight-hour days. The Earth would be spinning much faster than it is right now. The Earth would also not be as stable as it is. There have been calculations done that show that the Earth would be prone to toppling over at odd intervals. Well, all planets have moons, right? Yes, but only our moon stabilizes a planet to the extent...

Only our moon stabilizes our planet in the way that it does, and only our moon has as stable an orbit as it does, and none of the other moons in the solar system create the beautiful eclipses that we have here, because the moon is, get this, 1 400th the size of the sun, and it's 1 400th the distance to the sun. Right.

Only our moon stabilizes our planet in the way that it does, and only our moon has as stable an orbit as it does, and none of the other moons in the solar system create the beautiful eclipses that we have here, because the moon is, get this, 1 400th the size of the sun, and it's 1 400th the distance to the sun. Right.

Yes, yes. As you're famously accused of. Being defamed in both of those ways simultaneously. Never had any dealings with Nazis as far as I'm aware. Did meet with probably four different Mossad agents, but I never accepted their offer for shekels. So I'm a free agent.

Yes, yes. As you're famously accused of. Being defamed in both of those ways simultaneously. Never had any dealings with Nazis as far as I'm aware. Did meet with probably four different Mossad agents, but I never accepted their offer for shekels. So I'm a free agent.

So the fact that it's 1 400th the size of the sun and 1 400th distance to the sun produces this perfect eclipse.

So the fact that it's 1 400th the size of the sun and 1 400th distance to the sun produces this perfect eclipse.

But what's even more significant is that our moon has an extremely stable orbit. No other moon in the solar system orbits its planet with as little deviation as our moon does.

But what's even more significant is that our moon has an extremely stable orbit. No other moon in the solar system orbits its planet with as little deviation as our moon does.

And so it appears there's something inside the moon stabilizing that orbit, which is also stabilizing the Earth. And what did it give us? It gave us a climate, an environment, a biosphere that... rendered this planet habitable for humans. Remember what McMoneagle said. He said, they sent a scout ship to another planet. It was overgrown with vegetation. It wasn't arid like Mars.

And so it appears there's something inside the moon stabilizing that orbit, which is also stabilizing the Earth. And what did it give us? It gave us a climate, an environment, a biosphere that... rendered this planet habitable for humans. Remember what McMoneagle said. He said, they sent a scout ship to another planet. It was overgrown with vegetation. It wasn't arid like Mars.

There were volcanoes going off. There were electrical storms. And they were like, this place is too volatile. We can't settle here the way that it is now. So the moon was probably used in order to terraform the earth into a habitat that humans could, humans, Martians could settle in to become the human race. So now there are other pieces of data.

There were volcanoes going off. There were electrical storms. And they were like, this place is too volatile. We can't settle here the way that it is now. So the moon was probably used in order to terraform the earth into a habitat that humans could, humans, Martians could settle in to become the human race. So now there are other pieces of data.

100 to 65 million years ago. Now look, the dinosaurs would probably have had to have been killed off for this, right? So one hypothesis that follows from this is that the impact that killed off the dinosaurs was deliberate, not some accidental asteroid impact. It wouldn't have been very easy to coexist with them, right? Right, mm-hmm.

100 to 65 million years ago. Now look, the dinosaurs would probably have had to have been killed off for this, right? So one hypothesis that follows from this is that the impact that killed off the dinosaurs was deliberate, not some accidental asteroid impact. It wouldn't have been very easy to coexist with them, right? Right, mm-hmm.

Okay, but look, there are other data points that really nail this case. For example, the craters on the moon. On Earth, when you have impact craters from meteorites, for example, right? The craters are roughly proportionally deep as they are wide. They dig into the Earth, right?

Okay, but look, there are other data points that really nail this case. For example, the craters on the moon. On Earth, when you have impact craters from meteorites, for example, right? The craters are roughly proportionally deep as they are wide. They dig into the Earth, right?

On the moon, you have these utterly bizarre craters, which are like over 100 miles wide, like the Gregarion Crater or the Clavius Crater. You could fit Switzerland and Luxembourg together inside some of these craters. They're over 100 miles wide. They're never more than four or five miles deep. That doesn't make any sense.

On the moon, you have these utterly bizarre craters, which are like over 100 miles wide, like the Gregarion Crater or the Clavius Crater. You could fit Switzerland and Luxembourg together inside some of these craters. They're over 100 miles wide. They're never more than four or five miles deep. That doesn't make any sense.

In any case, they worshipped this figure, Satana. And around about, I think, 700, 800 BC, they mass invaded the Middle East. And it's said they went all the way up to Egypt. Right. So I've made an argument in some of my work that what we believe is the Hebrew term Satan, Ha-Satan, the adversary, probably comes from this Satana in origin.

In any case, they worshipped this figure, Satana. And around about, I think, 700, 800 BC, they mass invaded the Middle East. And it's said they went all the way up to Egypt. Right. So I've made an argument in some of my work that what we believe is the Hebrew term Satan, Ha-Satan, the adversary, probably comes from this Satana in origin.

The inside of these crater basins are all convex, like the surface of a contact lens. So think about this. Why would a meteor impact, meteorite impact, produce a crater that's so much wider than it is deep, and then in the especially wide craters like Clavius, you see that the surface of that crater is convex?

The inside of these crater basins are all convex, like the surface of a contact lens. So think about this. Why would a meteor impact, meteorite impact, produce a crater that's so much wider than it is deep, and then in the especially wide craters like Clavius, you see that the surface of that crater is convex?

It's because it's hitting a hard shell that's underneath the regolith, and the regolith is like astroturf that's been put on the surface of that space station to make it look like it's a moon.

It's because it's hitting a hard shell that's underneath the regolith, and the regolith is like astroturf that's been put on the surface of that space station to make it look like it's a moon.

There wasn't any. We didn't have seasons. That's a product of the moon. The equinox is only because of the moon. This 23-degree deviation that we have between our equator and the celestial equator that produces the equinoxes and the solstices is a function of the moon.

There wasn't any. We didn't have seasons. That's a product of the moon. The equinox is only because of the moon. This 23-degree deviation that we have between our equator and the celestial equator that produces the equinoxes and the solstices is a function of the moon.

So first of all, there's the extremely bizarre ratio that you just mentioned, right? Where this 1 400th size of the sun, 1 400th distance from the sun. And that's what produces these eclipses. Then there's an incredible stability of the orbit of the moon. Then as we mentioned, these craters don't make any sense, right? These craters don't make any sense.

So first of all, there's the extremely bizarre ratio that you just mentioned, right? Where this 1 400th size of the sun, 1 400th distance from the sun. And that's what produces these eclipses. Then there's an incredible stability of the orbit of the moon. Then as we mentioned, these craters don't make any sense, right? These craters don't make any sense.

And the basin of them seems like it's revealing a shell of some kind, a spherical shell. Then there's the impact tests, right? Right? The Apollo 12 and Apollo 13, where the moon on a seismograph registered like a hollow object. And by the way, there's no moon that's a hollow object.

And the basin of them seems like it's revealing a shell of some kind, a spherical shell. Then there's the impact tests, right? Right? The Apollo 12 and Apollo 13, where the moon on a seismograph registered like a hollow object. And by the way, there's no moon that's a hollow object.

Back before Carl Sagan became such a skeptic, he even commented on this and said that it's terrifying because no natural satellite is hollow.

Back before Carl Sagan became such a skeptic, he even commented on this and said that it's terrifying because no natural satellite is hollow.

How do we know? It's just not what moons are. Moons are like... You know, they're like rocky bodies that are trapped by a planet and they're rocky all the way through.

How do we know? It's just not what moons are. Moons are like... You know, they're like rocky bodies that are trapped by a planet and they're rocky all the way through.

Yeah. We have detailed, like for example, Phobos and the moons of Mars, we have detailed images of them.

Yeah. We have detailed, like for example, Phobos and the moons of Mars, we have detailed images of them.

It has two. Two moons. Saturn and Jupiter have a bunch. Right. And, you know, the other thing about these moons are they're all weird shaped. They look like deformed potatoes, you know, a lot of them. They're not beautiful spherical objects like ours is. But there is another interesting thing. And that's the mass cons.

It has two. Two moons. Saturn and Jupiter have a bunch. Right. And, you know, the other thing about these moons are they're all weird shaped. They look like deformed potatoes, you know, a lot of them. They're not beautiful spherical objects like ours is. But there is another interesting thing. And that's the mass cons.

So there are these – you know, the moon has a lower gravity than Earth generally, right? Remember the golf ball thing? Yep. So – and the Apollo astronauts.

So there are these – you know, the moon has a lower gravity than Earth generally, right? Remember the golf ball thing? Yep. So – and the Apollo astronauts.

We'll get to them too, the Apollo astronauts. Hopping around, you know, in the lower – but there are places on the moon where there's a much stronger gravity. There's Earth-like gravity or stronger than Earth-like gravity. And it's actually a problem for navigation because when they pass satellites over, they can't fly too low because – the craft will be pulled by these gravity wells.

We'll get to them too, the Apollo astronauts. Hopping around, you know, in the lower – but there are places on the moon where there's a much stronger gravity. There's Earth-like gravity or stronger than Earth-like gravity. And it's actually a problem for navigation because when they pass satellites over, they can't fly too low because – the craft will be pulled by these gravity wells.

There are places on the moon, they call them mass cons, mass concentrations, where the gravity deviates from the standard on the moon. And guess what? They're all perfectly circular. So one thing I hypothesized in Closer Encounters was that if this thing is a space station, it's possible that they built saucers into the surface of it

There are places on the moon, they call them mass cons, mass concentrations, where the gravity deviates from the standard on the moon. And guess what? They're all perfectly circular. So one thing I hypothesized in Closer Encounters was that if this thing is a space station, it's possible that they built saucers into the surface of it

Yeah, they have to compensate for those when they fly anything around the moon. Anyway, look, here's the thing.

Yeah, they have to compensate for those when they fly anything around the moon. Anyway, look, here's the thing.

So... We can't be just letting George Johnny fly by the seat of his pants here. One possibility is that when they built the space station... They built saucers into the surface of it. Remember, all the Mascons are circular. A saucer is going to have a zero-point energy drive generating a local- A flying saucer? Yeah, a flying saucer is going to have a local gravitational field.

So... We can't be just letting George Johnny fly by the seat of his pants here. One possibility is that when they built the space station... They built saucers into the surface of it. Remember, all the Mascons are circular. A saucer is going to have a zero-point energy drive generating a local- A flying saucer? Yeah, a flying saucer is going to have a local gravitational field.

And if there's people in the saucer, it's 1G, which is greater gravity than the rest of the moon. So one possibility is that what these Mascons are, are saucers embedded in the space station underneath the regolith as a potential evacuation protocol. Suppose there's a danger, like some giant asteroid is coming that might hit the Earth or it might hit the moon.

And if there's people in the saucer, it's 1G, which is greater gravity than the rest of the moon. So one possibility is that what these Mascons are, are saucers embedded in the space station underneath the regolith as a potential evacuation protocol. Suppose there's a danger, like some giant asteroid is coming that might hit the Earth or it might hit the moon.

And they need to evacuate the station, right? Well, these saucers could just peel off the surface. So that's one possibility of what these Mascons are. It are, you know, saucers with zero point energy drives running embedded into the surface of the object.

And they need to evacuate the station, right? Well, these saucers could just peel off the surface. So that's one possibility of what these Mascons are. It are, you know, saucers with zero point energy drives running embedded into the surface of the object.

Because the serpent symbolism associated with Satan from the book of Genesis onward... In various aesthetic representations has a distinctly female connotation. Like the serpent in Eden was depicted in female form often throughout the history of art. And the serpents are, of course, associated with the Gorgons. They have serpents in their hair, right?

Because the serpent symbolism associated with Satan from the book of Genesis onward... In various aesthetic representations has a distinctly female connotation. Like the serpent in Eden was depicted in female form often throughout the history of art. And the serpents are, of course, associated with the Gorgons. They have serpents in their hair, right?

This is where I want it to go next. We mentioned the astronaut, right. So, you know, these guys don't even remember what they did up there.

This is where I want it to go next. We mentioned the astronaut, right. So, you know, these guys don't even remember what they did up there.

When you ask them, they've done interviews with these astronauts. And when you ask them, you know, so what did you do on such and such a day? They basically rehearse a mission log. We did this. And then we went, no, no, no. I mean, how did you feel like when you were standing on the edge of that? And then they freeze up. They start to look ill.

When you ask them, they've done interviews with these astronauts. And when you ask them, you know, so what did you do on such and such a day? They basically rehearse a mission log. We did this. And then we went, no, no, no. I mean, how did you feel like when you were standing on the edge of that? And then they freeze up. They start to look ill.

And so like you're saying in that press conference, right? They don't look like national heroes coming back from having been the first men on the moon. They look like hostages. They look like they've had the shit scared out of them or, you know, yeah. So I think that these people saw some terrifying things up there. And that's also what Soviet intelligence thought.

And so like you're saying in that press conference, right? They don't look like national heroes coming back from having been the first men on the moon. They look like hostages. They look like they've had the shit scared out of them or, you know, yeah. So I think that these people saw some terrifying things up there. And that's also what Soviet intelligence thought.

In Timothy Good's book, Above Top Secret, British UFO researcher. It was close to Admiral Norton, Admiral Lord Hill Norton, British Navy, was one of the people who endorsed Timothy Good's work. And in his book, Above Top Secret, Timothy Good recounts a meeting between British intelligence and Soviet intelligence back during the Cold War.

In Timothy Good's book, Above Top Secret, British UFO researcher. It was close to Admiral Norton, Admiral Lord Hill Norton, British Navy, was one of the people who endorsed Timothy Good's work. And in his book, Above Top Secret, Timothy Good recounts a meeting between British intelligence and Soviet intelligence back during the Cold War.

And the Soviets said, we were listening to the medical channel during Apollo. They had a channel that they would use to report back like medical emergencies, things they didn't want the public to hear. A separate channel from the one that was being broadcast across television. And, you know, unsurprisingly, the KGB had found access to this. Okay. They weren't supposed to have access.

And the Soviets said, we were listening to the medical channel during Apollo. They had a channel that they would use to report back like medical emergencies, things they didn't want the public to hear. A separate channel from the one that was being broadcast across television. And, you know, unsurprisingly, the KGB had found access to this. Okay. They weren't supposed to have access.

Which is really a reference to the fact that viper venom was used in this cult. Right. So the title comes from that, okay? It's a play on the cult of Satana. But... The way I use this from the opening chapter onward is in terms of the contemporary debate over whether the UFO phenomenon is demonic. So you have these Collins elite people who think that, you know,

Which is really a reference to the fact that viper venom was used in this cult. Right. So the title comes from that, okay? It's a play on the cult of Satana. But... The way I use this from the opening chapter onward is in terms of the contemporary debate over whether the UFO phenomenon is demonic. So you have these Collins elite people who think that, you know,

Even our ham radio operators were listening to this in America. Some ham radio operators said that they were able to pick up on this too. So the Soviets said, we heard Armstrong and Apollo 11.

Even our ham radio operators were listening to this in America. Some ham radio operators said that they were able to pick up on this too. So the Soviets said, we heard Armstrong and Apollo 11.

say these babies are huge they're huge they're warning us off they're on the edge of the crater and there's this whole conversation on the medical channel about how the apollo 11 astronauts were effectively assaulted and scared off by a huge spacecraft on the moon which were not there to greet them they got the sense that they were there to say get the hell out of here

say these babies are huge they're huge they're warning us off they're on the edge of the crater and there's this whole conversation on the medical channel about how the apollo 11 astronauts were effectively assaulted and scared off by a huge spacecraft on the moon which were not there to greet them they got the sense that they were there to say get the hell out of here

So, you know, people have all these... Who was the person that said this? And this was... It was somebody... It was a conversation between British intelligence, a British intelligence officer. You can find it in Timothy Good's book, Above Top Secret. Above Top Secret, okay.

So, you know, people have all these... Who was the person that said this? And this was... It was somebody... It was a conversation between British intelligence, a British intelligence officer. You can find it in Timothy Good's book, Above Top Secret. Above Top Secret, okay.

And it was a British intelligence operative who during, I think, toward the end of the Cold War was meeting with a Soviet counterpart.

And it was a British intelligence operative who during, I think, toward the end of the Cold War was meeting with a Soviet counterpart.

And the Soviet said, we have the record of this. conversation between Armstrong and ground control on the medical channel where they were saying they saw the... Now, that would scare the shit out of you. Moreover, by 1969, 70, they had already done this MKUltra.

And the Soviet said, we have the record of this. conversation between Armstrong and ground control on the medical channel where they were saying they saw the... Now, that would scare the shit out of you. Moreover, by 1969, 70, they had already done this MKUltra.

stuff yes right so you think they you think they wiped their memory somehow exactly exactly we had already done this mk ultra stuff and i think these poor guys were mk ultra when they came back to try to get them to forget as much of what happened on the moon as possible and that would also explain why they all wound up with dysfunctional lives these guys all became alcoholics their wives divorced them all their their personal lives became a disaster

stuff yes right so you think they you think they wiped their memory somehow exactly exactly we had already done this mk ultra stuff and i think these poor guys were mk ultra when they came back to try to get them to forget as much of what happened on the moon as possible and that would also explain why they all wound up with dysfunctional lives these guys all became alcoholics their wives divorced them all their their personal lives became a disaster

So yeah, that's another piece of corroboration that, you know, the moon is inhabited and it's also probably an artificial satellite. And why haven't we been back since? Exactly.

So yeah, that's another piece of corroboration that, you know, the moon is inhabited and it's also probably an artificial satellite. And why haven't we been back since? Exactly.

What I find profoundly disturbing about that is that humiliation is the worst thing in Chinese culture, the worst thing. Okay. So the Chinese are not about to go up to the moon and have their asses handed to them. Moreover, the Chinese are going to the moon in collaboration and cooperation with the Russians.

What I find profoundly disturbing about that is that humiliation is the worst thing in Chinese culture, the worst thing. Okay. So the Chinese are not about to go up to the moon and have their asses handed to them. Moreover, the Chinese are going to the moon in collaboration and cooperation with the Russians.

The Chinese and the Russians plan to build a space station that orbits the moon and then send astronauts from the space station down to the surface of the moon, right? If there's that degree of cooperation between Russia and China on the moon, it means the Soviet dossier has been handed over to the Chinese. The Soviet dossier? Yeah, the Soviet dossier on the moon. Oh. Okay? Okay. Yeah.

The Chinese and the Russians plan to build a space station that orbits the moon and then send astronauts from the space station down to the surface of the moon, right? If there's that degree of cooperation between Russia and China on the moon, it means the Soviet dossier has been handed over to the Chinese. The Soviet dossier? Yeah, the Soviet dossier on the moon. Oh. Okay? Okay. Yeah.

What's in that? Right. Everything the Americans encountered on the moon, which is why the Soviets never went to the moon. Remember, we were competing with the Soviet Union to go to the moon. Yeah. Why is it that we went up there and then all the Soviets just decided to cancel their moon program? No. They knew. Of course they knew. They knew.

What's in that? Right. Everything the Americans encountered on the moon, which is why the Soviets never went to the moon. Remember, we were competing with the Soviet Union to go to the moon. Yeah. Why is it that we went up there and then all the Soviets just decided to cancel their moon program? No. They knew. Of course they knew. They knew.

And also there were discussions in the Soviet Union at that time that, okay, if America makes it to the moon first, we'll go to Mars first. They figured it out.

And also there were discussions in the Soviet Union at that time that, okay, if America makes it to the moon first, we'll go to Mars first. They figured it out.

neither are for the taking neither the moon nor mars so what's really disturbing about the chinese initiative is that if the chinese of all people are planning to go up there and i don't know if not colonize at least do some scientific research or whatever right it means they've gotten clearance from the people that are there that's right that's right now what and notice how the balance of power is shifting in the world toward china

neither are for the taking neither the moon nor mars so what's really disturbing about the chinese initiative is that if the chinese of all people are planning to go up there and i don't know if not colonize at least do some scientific research or whatever right it means they've gotten clearance from the people that are there that's right that's right now what and notice how the balance of power is shifting in the world toward china

Is it really? It is.

Is it really? It is.

Look, I mean, it has been. Now, whether that can be reversed is another question. But... If you wanted to manage a global totalitarian state with ubiquitous surveillance and an extremely technocratic form of government with little personal freedom, a control society on a global scale, the Chinese would be the optimal people to put in charge for that because it fits the values of Confucianism.

Look, I mean, it has been. Now, whether that can be reversed is another question. But... If you wanted to manage a global totalitarian state with ubiquitous surveillance and an extremely technocratic form of government with little personal freedom, a control society on a global scale, the Chinese would be the optimal people to put in charge for that because it fits the values of Confucianism.

Either angels or more probably demons are what's behind the whole- What do you call them? Collins elite? The Collins elite. Yeah, the Collins elite. I think we got into this briefly the last time I was here. Okay.

Either angels or more probably demons are what's behind the whole- What do you call them? Collins elite? The Collins elite. Yeah, the Collins elite. I think we got into this briefly the last time I was here. Okay.

Okay? So if someone... on the moon, potentially also on Mars, wants to impose a totalitarian world government on Earth, they're not going to make a deal with the United States. They're going to make a deal with China. That's what I find most disturbing about Chinese plans to go to the moon.

Okay? So if someone... on the moon, potentially also on Mars, wants to impose a totalitarian world government on Earth, they're not going to make a deal with the United States. They're going to make a deal with China. That's what I find most disturbing about Chinese plans to go to the moon.

I actually don't think we would even be going back there if it weren't for the fact that Chinese already are.

I actually don't think we would even be going back there if it weren't for the fact that Chinese already are.

You know, I'm not sure. It's very easy to make these kinds of moral judgments. If I were in Lockheed at a high level with security clearance to the special programs that are dealing with zero point energy, electro-gravitic drives. Yeah. I'm not so sure that considering the kind of society we have in this country, let alone in the world at large, I would publicly disclose that technology.

You know, I'm not sure. It's very easy to make these kinds of moral judgments. If I were in Lockheed at a high level with security clearance to the special programs that are dealing with zero point energy, electro-gravitic drives. Yeah. I'm not so sure that considering the kind of society we have in this country, let alone in the world at large, I would publicly disclose that technology.

But some people think that the Collins elite was an unofficial interagency organization with representation from the CIA, the Air Force, and various other military intelligence organizations. Hmm. that was formed, they think, some people argue, like Nick Redfern, I think, in his book on, what was that book called?

But some people think that the Collins elite was an unofficial interagency organization with representation from the CIA, the Air Force, and various other military intelligence organizations. Hmm. that was formed, they think, some people argue, like Nick Redfern, I think, in his book on, what was that book called?

I mean, we talked about this last time, I think. The weaponization implications and dual use potential of such technology is extremely socially destabilizing. So the thing is, with China, you can manage technology.

I mean, we talked about this last time, I think. The weaponization implications and dual use potential of such technology is extremely socially destabilizing. So the thing is, with China, you can manage technology.

technology and control information in that way yes totally based on the ideals of the bill of rights and the united states constitution you can't it makes it way harder right so they have a good negotiating partner in china oh yes that makes a ton of sense so even if you're in lockheed you're you know you're stuck behind all these walls of classification and these security oaths that you've taken you might still believe in the ideals of the bill of rights and you might not be ready to sell out you know at least the american citizenry to a uh

technology and control information in that way yes totally based on the ideals of the bill of rights and the united states constitution you can't it makes it way harder right so they have a good negotiating partner in china oh yes that makes a ton of sense so even if you're in lockheed you're you know you're stuck behind all these walls of classification and these security oaths that you've taken you might still believe in the ideals of the bill of rights and you might not be ready to sell out you know at least the american citizenry to a uh

foreign power or an alien power that intends to subjugate the planet and you know subject us to a global tyranny so yeah I'm not convinced that even people in the the deepest strata of the deep state are so, how can I put it, callous and nihilistic and self-serving that they would make a deal with people who want tyranny over the planet.

foreign power or an alien power that intends to subjugate the planet and you know subject us to a global tyranny so yeah I'm not convinced that even people in the the deepest strata of the deep state are so, how can I put it, callous and nihilistic and self-serving that they would make a deal with people who want tyranny over the planet.

In fact, I wouldn't be at all surprised if for a long time they've kept these technologies close to the chest in order to develop some kind of a... deterrence capability or to approach parody, technological and military parody. With what? With them? Yeah, with the people on the moon.

In fact, I wouldn't be at all surprised if for a long time they've kept these technologies close to the chest in order to develop some kind of a... deterrence capability or to approach parody, technological and military parody. With what? With them? Yeah, with the people on the moon.

Okay, great question. Permit me to answer it in a little bit of a roundabout way, because I want to give you a substantive answer, right? And so here's where I want to go into the idea of the simulation theory. Because the deepest, darkest secret that somebody in that position, in Lockheed or Northrop or

Okay, great question. Permit me to answer it in a little bit of a roundabout way, because I want to give you a substantive answer, right? And so here's where I want to go into the idea of the simulation theory. Because the deepest, darkest secret that somebody in that position, in Lockheed or Northrop or

Even at some of – let's say at IBM and some of these computer companies, tech giants that have been in bed with the defense contractors and the government for decades, the deepest, darkest secret that they would know isn't even – Anything to do with zero-point energy drives or even with the psionic aspects of, say, piloting UFOs, which is another whole thing.

Even at some of – let's say at IBM and some of these computer companies, tech giants that have been in bed with the defense contractors and the government for decades, the deepest, darkest secret that they would know isn't even – Anything to do with zero-point energy drives or even with the psionic aspects of, say, piloting UFOs, which is another whole thing.

This is one of the reasons why that guy in the CIA contacted me after Closer Encounters came out. Because one of the things that I argued throughout this whole book, actually, it goes back to even my first book, Prometheus and Atlas, is that I said, that book was published in 2016. Right. I said, there's not going to be any UFO disclosure without disclosure of psychic abilities.

This is one of the reasons why that guy in the CIA contacted me after Closer Encounters came out. Because one of the things that I argued throughout this whole book, actually, it goes back to even my first book, Prometheus and Atlas, is that I said, that book was published in 2016. Right. I said, there's not going to be any UFO disclosure without disclosure of psychic abilities.

And there's not going to be any substantive scientific mainstream acceptance of psychic abilities without UFO disclosure. These two things are completely inextricable. They're going to find that there are psionic aspects to the guidance systems of UFOs. And that basically the pilot interacting telepathically with the system is part of how the thing is piloted.

And there's not going to be any substantive scientific mainstream acceptance of psychic abilities without UFO disclosure. These two things are completely inextricable. They're going to find that there are psionic aspects to the guidance systems of UFOs. And that basically the pilot interacting telepathically with the system is part of how the thing is piloted.

We'll come to that. So that goes to your question about what's the ethics of a person who's deep inside the system, right? How has their worldview been shaped by the horrific things that they've been apprised of? Right. So to me, the most horrific thing isn't...

We'll come to that. So that goes to your question about what's the ethics of a person who's deep inside the system, right? How has their worldview been shaped by the horrific things that they've been apprised of? Right. So to me, the most horrific thing isn't...

You say that probably more than half-jokingly. No, I don't think Tucker's part of the Collins elite, but I think that they've gotten to his head. I think that these are the people who put this in Tucker Carlson's head, and he's been talking to too many of these folks. So anyway, some people think they were formed in 1947.

You say that probably more than half-jokingly. No, I don't think Tucker's part of the Collins elite, but I think that they've gotten to his head. I think that these are the people who put this in Tucker Carlson's head, and he's been talking to too many of these folks. So anyway, some people think they were formed in 1947.

Yeah, you've got to develop a split personality.

Yeah, you've got to develop a split personality.

Very much so. Or like the doctor in Stranger Things, the one who works closely with Eleven.

Very much so. Or like the doctor in Stranger Things, the one who works closely with Eleven.

You know, the papa figure.

You know, the papa figure.

Some of these guys are family men, and they go home, they have to deal with their wives, they have to deal with their kids, and they have to somehow dissociate from what it is they do at work every day. Right. In any case, what are the deepest, darkest secrets that these people have been apprised of?

Some of these guys are family men, and they go home, they have to deal with their wives, they have to deal with their kids, and they have to somehow dissociate from what it is they do at work every day. Right. In any case, what are the deepest, darkest secrets that these people have been apprised of?

You remember how I said in remote viewing of Mars by Joe McMoneagle, there was this very curious thing he reported about how these people on Mars kept trying to find a way out. Yeah. And they couldn't find a way out no matter what they did. What were they trying to find a way out of?

You remember how I said in remote viewing of Mars by Joe McMoneagle, there was this very curious thing he reported about how these people on Mars kept trying to find a way out. Yeah. And they couldn't find a way out no matter what they did. What were they trying to find a way out of?

so they they got to earth i mean if the theory that i'm proposing is correct they made it to earth and they used the moon to terraform the earth and so forth right so they weren't trying to get out of mars or get off of mars what were they trying to get out of that's a good opener to this question of you know the simulation and what evidence there is that we might be living inside of a simulation

so they they got to earth i mean if the theory that i'm proposing is correct they made it to earth and they used the moon to terraform the earth and so forth right so they weren't trying to get out of mars or get off of mars what were they trying to get out of that's a good opener to this question of you know the simulation and what evidence there is that we might be living inside of a simulation

So this is something that I discuss at length in my book, Citanion. And, you know, I've discussed simulation theory in Closer Encounters and other books of mine before, but I discovered something recently that's much more rigorous from a mathematics and physics perspective and consequently also more compelling and disturbing. And that's this. Okay, so bear with me.

So this is something that I discuss at length in my book, Citanion. And, you know, I've discussed simulation theory in Closer Encounters and other books of mine before, but I discovered something recently that's much more rigorous from a mathematics and physics perspective and consequently also more compelling and disturbing. And that's this. Okay, so bear with me.

This gets a little bit complicated. So we start building computers in the 1940s, right? Alan Turing, the big wall-sized computers, and we're competing with the Nazis.

This gets a little bit complicated. So we start building computers in the 1940s, right? Alan Turing, the big wall-sized computers, and we're competing with the Nazis.

Yeah, and ENIAC. At that time in the 1940s, when we're building the first computers, there was this guy, Claude Shannon, who developed a science known as information theory, subsequently came to be known as information theory. Because before computers were built, nobody thought of mathematically formalizing the transfer of information. We had phones at that time. We had radio transmissions.

Yeah, and ENIAC. At that time in the 1940s, when we're building the first computers, there was this guy, Claude Shannon, who developed a science known as information theory, subsequently came to be known as information theory. Because before computers were built, nobody thought of mathematically formalizing the transfer of information. We had phones at that time. We had radio transmissions.

But nobody thought about what was being transmitted over phone lines or over telegraph lines as data transfer. That concept didn't exist. But once they started building computers, it stands to reason that somebody would mathematically formulize what data is and what it means to transmit and transfer data. So this guy, Claude Shannon, does this. And he comes up with the idea of a binary digit.

But nobody thought about what was being transmitted over phone lines or over telegraph lines as data transfer. That concept didn't exist. But once they started building computers, it stands to reason that somebody would mathematically formulize what data is and what it means to transmit and transfer data. So this guy, Claude Shannon, does this. And he comes up with the idea of a binary digit.

to basically, between 45 and 47, to spy on Jack Parsons and investigate what Jack Parsons, the occultist and rocket scientist, was doing, you know, with L. Ron Hubbard and others in the middle of the western desert, right?

to basically, between 45 and 47, to spy on Jack Parsons and investigate what Jack Parsons, the occultist and rocket scientist, was doing, you know, with L. Ron Hubbard and others in the middle of the western desert, right?

Binary digit. Bit. where data is conceived of according to the binary of one and zero. You know, data as being a construct built from out of sequences of ones and zeros. Claude Shannon is the first person to conceptualize this. And Shannon also makes the point that, look, we live in a universe bound by the two laws of thermodynamics.

Binary digit. Bit. where data is conceived of according to the binary of one and zero. You know, data as being a construct built from out of sequences of ones and zeros. Claude Shannon is the first person to conceptualize this. And Shannon also makes the point that, look, we live in a universe bound by the two laws of thermodynamics.

The first law of thermodynamics is that energy can never be created or destroyed. Energy equals MC squared. This is going to be important for what I'm about to say. So as Einstein, you know, showed us, energy and mass are interconvertible. E equals MC squared. So energy can become mass and mass can become energy. Right.

The first law of thermodynamics is that energy can never be created or destroyed. Energy equals MC squared. This is going to be important for what I'm about to say. So as Einstein, you know, showed us, energy and mass are interconvertible. E equals MC squared. So energy can become mass and mass can become energy. Right.

But we can't identify anywhere in the physical universe energy being created or destroyed. That's the first law of thermodynamics.

But we can't identify anywhere in the physical universe energy being created or destroyed. That's the first law of thermodynamics.

Net total energy remains the same. Yep. Okay. So... Then the second law of thermodynamics is that we notice everywhere in nature, even when you pour a dye into a glass of water, that there's a tendency toward disorder in the cosmos over time. And so the second law of thermodynamics is that in a closed system, The level of disorder or entropy either remains constant or increases.

Net total energy remains the same. Yep. Okay. So... Then the second law of thermodynamics is that we notice everywhere in nature, even when you pour a dye into a glass of water, that there's a tendency toward disorder in the cosmos over time. And so the second law of thermodynamics is that in a closed system, The level of disorder or entropy either remains constant or increases.

It's never the case that entropy decreases in nature. You never have more order emerge over time in large-scale physical processes. As things age. As things age, more disorder.

It's never the case that entropy decreases in nature. You never have more order emerge over time in large-scale physical processes. As things age. As things age, more disorder.

It happens to our bodies. It happens to the whole universe. Okay.

It happens to our bodies. It happens to the whole universe. Okay.

and so this is where they postulate the so-called heat depth of the universe that at a certain point the entropy will become so great that first you know galaxies are pulled apart then solar systems are pulled apart then planets are pulled apart and eventually atomic structures are pulled apart and life becomes non-viable in the universe heat death of the universe at victory of entropy that's the second law of thermodynamics so shannon says look

and so this is where they postulate the so-called heat depth of the universe that at a certain point the entropy will become so great that first you know galaxies are pulled apart then solar systems are pulled apart then planets are pulled apart and eventually atomic structures are pulled apart and life becomes non-viable in the universe heat death of the universe at victory of entropy that's the second law of thermodynamics so shannon says look

If bits, binary digits, meaning information, is flowing through a computer system, that computer system is in the physical world, meaning it's bound by the laws of entropy. Meaning it's bound by the laws of entropy. Okay? So... Then there's this German Jewish physicist, Rolf Landauer. He came over with the other German Jews who were fleeing the Nazis.

If bits, binary digits, meaning information, is flowing through a computer system, that computer system is in the physical world, meaning it's bound by the laws of entropy. Meaning it's bound by the laws of entropy. Okay? So... Then there's this German Jewish physicist, Rolf Landauer. He came over with the other German Jews who were fleeing the Nazis.

And in 1961, Rolf Landauer builds upon Claude Shannon's groundwork in information theory. And he comes up with this equation, which I have in Satanion. He comes up with this very short, elegant equation, extrapolated from out of the second law of thermodynamics, which says that If you delete one bit of information, there should be an increase of entropy outside of the computer system.

And in 1961, Rolf Landauer builds upon Claude Shannon's groundwork in information theory. And he comes up with this equation, which I have in Satanion. He comes up with this very short, elegant equation, extrapolated from out of the second law of thermodynamics, which says that If you delete one bit of information, there should be an increase of entropy outside of the computer system.

So think about it this way. On a microchip or a magnetic tape, when it's blank, when it's blank, you've got the equivalent of 00000 or 1111111. There's no data. Right. When you record data on it, you get 010011101. So actually, the blank tape has more order than when you start encoding information on it, when conceived in physical terms.

So think about it this way. On a microchip or a magnetic tape, when it's blank, when it's blank, you've got the equivalent of 00000 or 1111111. There's no data. Right. When you record data on it, you get 010011101. So actually, the blank tape has more order than when you start encoding information on it, when conceived in physical terms.

Matter of fact, I think it was in Florida that Hubbard, you know, the founder of Scientology, stole...

Matter of fact, I think it was in Florida that Hubbard, you know, the founder of Scientology, stole...

So because information is meaningful to us and like a file has a book on it, text on it, and the text has meaning to us, or a photographic image has a meaning content to us, we think of information as, let's say, decreasing entropy because we think of it as highly ordered because it's meaningful to us.

So because information is meaningful to us and like a file has a book on it, text on it, and the text has meaning to us, or a photographic image has a meaning content to us, we think of information as, let's say, decreasing entropy because we think of it as highly ordered because it's meaningful to us.

But when you think of it as a bunch of ones and zeros, sequences of ones and zeros, when you think of it inside of a physical system,

But when you think of it as a bunch of ones and zeros, sequences of ones and zeros, when you think of it inside of a physical system,

the blank magnetic tape or the blank microchip has more order in it than when you start to record ones and zeros on it right that's more chaotic yes zero zero one one one zero zero so rolf landauer was saying if we erase the data we're increasing uh i'm sorry if we erase the data we're decreasing entropy inside the computer

the blank magnetic tape or the blank microchip has more order in it than when you start to record ones and zeros on it right that's more chaotic yes zero zero one one one zero zero so rolf landauer was saying if we erase the data we're increasing uh i'm sorry if we erase the data we're decreasing entropy inside the computer

Now, according to the laws of thermodynamics, if you decrease entropy inside, somewhere inside a closed system, meaning the universe, you have to pay for it with an increase of entropy outside the computer. So you're decreasing entropy inside the computer. By deleting shit. By deleting shit.

Now, according to the laws of thermodynamics, if you decrease entropy inside, somewhere inside a closed system, meaning the universe, you have to pay for it with an increase of entropy outside the computer. So you're decreasing entropy inside the computer. By deleting shit. By deleting shit.

uh parsons yacht and his girlfriend what i think that was off the coast of florida that he did that yeah they had a bad falling out i told you right that the flag building for scientology their primary headquarters where he parked his yacht is like 20 minutes from here i think that makes sense yeah yeah yeah i think he used this as a launching point for his uh various off the radar activities in the oceans of the world later in his life right yeah so anyway but let's not go into hubbard land

uh parsons yacht and his girlfriend what i think that was off the coast of florida that he did that yeah they had a bad falling out i told you right that the flag building for scientology their primary headquarters where he parked his yacht is like 20 minutes from here i think that makes sense yeah yeah yeah i think he used this as a launching point for his uh various off the radar activities in the oceans of the world later in his life right yeah so anyway but let's not go into hubbard land

That's got to result in more entropy outside the computer. Okay. Because the net energy has to remain the same.

That's got to result in more entropy outside the computer. Okay. Because the net energy has to remain the same.

so he came up with an equation that expresses this where if you delete one bit of information certain amount of energy is released got it okay now here's where it's going to get weird and creepy okay but that was all necessary background so we we think that information is this abstract thing we think we think it's like not physical right that's in the realm of ideas yeah but what this equation is saying is the following

so he came up with an equation that expresses this where if you delete one bit of information certain amount of energy is released got it okay now here's where it's going to get weird and creepy okay but that was all necessary background so we we think that information is this abstract thing we think we think it's like not physical right that's in the realm of ideas yeah but what this equation is saying is the following

That if you amass enough data, like on these huge server farms that we have in Silicon Valley, that we have in China, right? And you're amassing not bytes or megabytes, not terabytes, petabytes, whatever, right? Of data, and you erase all that data, you're going to have to give off a shit ton of energy. That's what Landauer's equation is saying.

That if you amass enough data, like on these huge server farms that we have in Silicon Valley, that we have in China, right? And you're amassing not bytes or megabytes, not terabytes, petabytes, whatever, right? Of data, and you erase all that data, you're going to have to give off a shit ton of energy. That's what Landauer's equation is saying.

is that if you erase a large amount of data, terabytes of data, there's a significant measurable energy release that's going to take place. Now, according to E equals MC squared, right? The interconvertibility of matter and energy. Yeah. What does that mean, conversely? It means that if energy comes out of the computer when the data is released, terabytes and terabytes on some server, right? Yeah.

is that if you erase a large amount of data, terabytes of data, there's a significant measurable energy release that's going to take place. Now, according to E equals MC squared, right? The interconvertibility of matter and energy. Yeah. What does that mean, conversely? It means that if energy comes out of the computer when the data is released, terabytes and terabytes on some server, right? Yeah.

What was it when it was inside the computer? Mass, right? It was mass. So it's been proposed that we could weigh a hard drive before data is encoded on it, and then again after data is encoded on it. Or take a hard drive that has data encoded on it, weigh it, erase the data, and then weigh it again. Right. There will be a mass differential. Right.

What was it when it was inside the computer? Mass, right? It was mass. So it's been proposed that we could weigh a hard drive before data is encoded on it, and then again after data is encoded on it. Or take a hard drive that has data encoded on it, weigh it, erase the data, and then weigh it again. Right. There will be a mass differential. Right.

So there's mass inside a computer that's not anything to do with the microchips or the transistors or magnetic tapes or anything. It's a hidden mass. This has been done? This weighing? No. Here's why. Because currently, according to Landauer's equation, if you were to...

So there's mass inside a computer that's not anything to do with the microchips or the transistors or magnetic tapes or anything. It's a hidden mass. This has been done? This weighing? No. Here's why. Because currently, according to Landauer's equation, if you were to...

calculate the mass of all of the information in the world today, on all of the largest server farms that we have here and that AI is being run off of in China, the total mass, according to that equation, comes to one kilogram. Less than one kilogram. Less than one kilogram.

calculate the mass of all of the information in the world today, on all of the largest server farms that we have here and that AI is being run off of in China, the total mass, according to that equation, comes to one kilogram. Less than one kilogram. Less than one kilogram.

meaning that we don't have sensitive enough weighing equipment to weigh a hard drive let alone even a server right i mean we couldn't even weigh a server let alone a hard drive because the mass currently is too little however the rate of data increase per year the the rate at which we're accumulating information per year is approximately 25 percent okay

meaning that we don't have sensitive enough weighing equipment to weigh a hard drive let alone even a server right i mean we couldn't even weigh a server let alone a hard drive because the mass currently is too little however the rate of data increase per year the the rate at which we're accumulating information per year is approximately 25 percent okay

and if you think about where we're going technologically we're headed toward this technological singularity where we're going to have artificial intelligence artificial intelligence inside of robots like the tesla robots we're going to have these systems constantly accumulating all kinds of data right and so it stands to reason that as we approach the technological singularity

and if you think about where we're going technologically we're headed toward this technological singularity where we're going to have artificial intelligence artificial intelligence inside of robots like the tesla robots we're going to have these systems constantly accumulating all kinds of data right and so it stands to reason that as we approach the technological singularity

The rate of data increase per year is going to exponentially take off way beyond 25%, maybe close to 100%. But get this, even if it were to stay 25%, which it won't, but even if it were, I did the calculations. They're in my book, Citanion. In something like 340 years...

The rate of data increase per year is going to exponentially take off way beyond 25%, maybe close to 100%. But get this, even if it were to stay 25%, which it won't, but even if it were, I did the calculations. They're in my book, Citanion. In something like 340 years...

the amount of information that will exist in the world, at the current rate of data production, will equal the mass of the moon. Now go back to our conversation about the moon. The moon was brought here to terraform the planet potentially. In other words, the moon has massive gravitational effects on the earth. Massive. It took us from having eight hour days to having 24 hour days.

the amount of information that will exist in the world, at the current rate of data production, will equal the mass of the moon. Now go back to our conversation about the moon. The moon was brought here to terraform the planet potentially. In other words, the moon has massive gravitational effects on the earth. Massive. It took us from having eight hour days to having 24 hour days.