Jerry Holman

We were able to identify everybody, interview them.

We knew they saw a white male, but the descriptions were slightly different.

looking like he was waiting for somebody. As she's walking back towards the trailhead where she parked, she sees two girls, later identified as Abby and Libby, walking towards the bridge.

He did not see anybody or notify us of anything unusual.

Yeah.

Exactly.

We were definitely able to tell... Pretty good description of the person, white male, blue coat, sweatshirt, head covering, blue jeans.

And, you know, we interviewed Ron. He would deny all that. He would deny any of that, those accusations.

So we followed up. He said he had the cousin drive him to the fish store. So we located the cousin. The cousin backed up Logan's alibi.

Initially, the cousin was covering for him. But then during a separate interview, he said no.

Because he... Why? Yeah, exactly. That's what we thought.

No, not to my opinion. He's very tall, older than the photo.

Yes.

This Anthony Schatz was soliciting young girls for nude photos and videos. And some of the girls were friends of Liberty, and one was Liberty as well.

It's bad, yep.

No, no. And the problem with social media, we could tell that they're communicating together, but we don't always get the content of it. But we do know that he was asking for those because she had told people that he was asking and she wasn't sending them.

Yeah, absolutely.

He's definitely a bad person, was doing bad things.

Yes.

Kegan Klein is the person that was using the Anthony Schatz profile to solicit girls to send them pornographic photos.

He's a bad guy. He's a pathological liar. He would tell us something we'd look into and it'd be a lie. He lied a lot.

That is true. They checked it, and they thought he was in Vegas. But we knew shortly after that he wasn't in Vegas.

Yeah, absolutely. He was definitely someone who we believed that could have been capable of doing that.

We could never put his phone or any technology of him being in Delphi. During the time of the murders, he was actually at his grandmother's house.

We conducted a thorough investigation and ruled him out.

Another dead end.

I knew it wasn't from lack of effort. We had a great team. We were working extremely hard, you know, 10, 12, 15 hours a day, a lot of sleepless nights. We were really focused on finding the killer, and we weren't going to give up.

So it was misfiled as cleared, so no one followed up on it.

Absolutely.

I thought that, you know, that's bridge guy. So I'm like, we need to talk to that guy. That's the guy that we were missing.

He had a lot of knives, a lot of clothing that matched the description. That matched?

Once we got the result back that the round matched his gun, we decided to call him back in for another interview.

Why is your round from your gun at the crime scene and he just denied it and could never give us an explanation?

He just made the comment that I was going to pay for this, and I told him, no, you're going to pay for this.

It was definitely investigated very thoroughly by multiple people. No stone unturned. We did not have tunnel vision. Multiple officers spent multiple hours, multiple months looking into that connection.