Jessica Rose
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first heard Nov 2024
last heard Nov 2024
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But there needs to be a similar way of understanding. That's your next book, Claire. I want you to write the next book about these phenomenon and what we should call them. And please choose a pejorative name. It shouldn't be something lovely. So can you bring me up to date? Go ahead.
Yep, I agree. And certainly infected and infection are different words. Also, I saw on X today, somebody put a headline up. Oh my God, the NHS is reporting that people are vomiting from norovirus in the UK. They're vomiting from the norovirus. And I thought, oh my God. So what is the implication? That we should now shut down society because somebody might throw up? And or...
Is it, and this got a little more fundamental to me, that people are unwilling to accept the fact that they are biological agents and as such get sick, infectious and otherwise. It feels like the very nature of who we are as biological beings is being discarded or at least resisted.
Interesting. Oh, it's your next book. Let's put that in the ledger book. So before we get into the replicating mRNA vaccines, do you have any updates for us on vaccines in general?
Well, I know you're always in the zone in these topics. So whatever is on your mind and whatever you need to update people about.
And so what you get in this country is tons of pushback on that observation as having been caused by COVID virus itself. So the question becomes, how do we tease out what's COVID? I've been asking this question since 2020, which is what's COVID? What's vaccine? What's vaccine plus COVID?
And then the mechanism for the myocardial, or again, what do you imagine the pathophysiology is at the cardiac level that's creating this spike in cardiac events? I hear varying different theories about it. Well, I hear yours. I won't adulterate it.
Yeah, I do believe that the spike generally causes an endothelitis. And so it makes sense to me that both COVID and the vaccine and the two together, maybe the worst, would cause coronary disease. But I don't see where the virus itself is infecting the heart. And yet we do see spike from the vaccine, right? Would that be a reasonable way to frame that?
That's interesting. And by the way, no pericarditis from COVID that I'm aware of. And I remember when I had COVID, I've told this very many times, I had my fever like 103 and I was climbing stairs and my pulse was 60. I went, uh-oh, I think this thing is affecting the heart. But that was COVID itself.
But let's quickly, we're going to take a break in a minute, but give us a little sketch on these self-replicating mRNA vaccines. That just sounds odd and spooky to me. What's going on there?
I want to... I want to get into this further because I love that frame. So I want to say it again so people understand it, that a virus is a code, a DNA or RNA code, surrounded typically by a protein sheath or shell that allows it to get in the cells. The mRNA vaccines...
are a protein, are a RNA code that is encapsulated in a, this case, a liquid nanoparticle that allows it to go inside the cell and take over the machinery, which is what a virus does. That they are the same is a fascinating construct. And I want to talk about it in the context of the ethics of doing so, of creating these things.
And now that it's replicating, it fully is a viral particle, essentially. I mean, the whole idea of viruses
being viral is that it replicates uh it is a viral particle uh and why we don't apply the same standards to this as say we do to crisper and and monkeying with dna why should it to me it should be almost identically the same but let's take a little break we'll talk about that we have jessica rose in about 15 minutes dr claire craig is here you can follow her on claire craig path
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