Jocelyn Frank

Hi, Hannah. Thanks for having me.

Hi, Hannah. Thanks for having me.

Hi, Hannah. Thanks for having me.

Yeah. I recently interviewed quite a number of pilots, and one of them has really got me thinking differently about flight safety. His name is Chris Finlayson. He's been a pilot for 13 years. He's married, he has two young daughters, and he's a first officer with one of the major airlines in the U.S., It's a job that comes with a lot of responsibility. You know, a few flights every day.

Yeah. I recently interviewed quite a number of pilots, and one of them has really got me thinking differently about flight safety. His name is Chris Finlayson. He's been a pilot for 13 years. He's married, he has two young daughters, and he's a first officer with one of the major airlines in the U.S., It's a job that comes with a lot of responsibility. You know, a few flights every day.

Yeah. I recently interviewed quite a number of pilots, and one of them has really got me thinking differently about flight safety. His name is Chris Finlayson. He's been a pilot for 13 years. He's married, he has two young daughters, and he's a first officer with one of the major airlines in the U.S., It's a job that comes with a lot of responsibility. You know, a few flights every day.

He's probably responsible for a few hundred people every time he shows up for work. So when he got COVID, he had no hesitation about being grounded. He immediately stopped flying.

He's probably responsible for a few hundred people every time he shows up for work. So when he got COVID, he had no hesitation about being grounded. He immediately stopped flying.

He's probably responsible for a few hundred people every time he shows up for work. So when he got COVID, he had no hesitation about being grounded. He immediately stopped flying.

Even after most of his COVID symptoms subsided, his anxiety just kept going. And then he got anxiety about his anxiety.

Even after most of his COVID symptoms subsided, his anxiety just kept going. And then he got anxiety about his anxiety.

Even after most of his COVID symptoms subsided, his anxiety just kept going. And then he got anxiety about his anxiety.

For most people in a similar situation, having stress, anxiety, even panic attacks, it would lead them to some behavioral therapy or medication. And then ideally, you just get back to a stable, typical, healthy life. But Chris Finlayson is a pilot. And for pilots, there's a different calculation.

For most people in a similar situation, having stress, anxiety, even panic attacks, it would lead them to some behavioral therapy or medication. And then ideally, you just get back to a stable, typical, healthy life. But Chris Finlayson is a pilot. And for pilots, there's a different calculation.

For most people in a similar situation, having stress, anxiety, even panic attacks, it would lead them to some behavioral therapy or medication. And then ideally, you just get back to a stable, typical, healthy life. But Chris Finlayson is a pilot. And for pilots, there's a different calculation.

When pilots do seek out mental health care, they risk derailing their careers, disrupting their livelihoods, and ultimately, sometimes their permission to fly. And if they don't seek help, they could be putting their lives and the lives of hundreds of passengers at risk.

When pilots do seek out mental health care, they risk derailing their careers, disrupting their livelihoods, and ultimately, sometimes their permission to fly. And if they don't seek help, they could be putting their lives and the lives of hundreds of passengers at risk.

When pilots do seek out mental health care, they risk derailing their careers, disrupting their livelihoods, and ultimately, sometimes their permission to fly. And if they don't seek help, they could be putting their lives and the lives of hundreds of passengers at risk.

In 2015, there was a terrible crash, an airline called Germanwings. And it turned out that the co-pilot intentionally crashed the plane.

In 2015, there was a terrible crash, an airline called Germanwings. And it turned out that the co-pilot intentionally crashed the plane.