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John Nunemaker

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478 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

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The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
The Moneyball approach (Interview)

If somebody came along with the right price, we'd be like, sure, that happens. Now I've got some cash flow. So maybe I pay off the loan, get the lien off my house, and then I loan it back to the business at a lower interest rate or something like that so that the lien is basically gone from my house.

The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
The Moneyball approach (Interview)

If somebody came along with the right price, we'd be like, sure, that happens. Now I've got some cash flow. So maybe I pay off the loan, get the lien off my house, and then I loan it back to the business at a lower interest rate or something like that so that the lien is basically gone from my house.

The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
The Moneyball approach (Interview)

But there's still some amount of leverage of using other people's money to make money, which is kind of an interesting concept, I guess. Yeah. Again, I'm all a rookie. I don't, I don't know any of this stuff. I'm just flapping the stuff that I've been researching for, you know, a couple of years and then heavily for a month or so. So I don't, I don't know, but that's just what I think in my head.

The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
The Moneyball approach (Interview)

But there's still some amount of leverage of using other people's money to make money, which is kind of an interesting concept, I guess. Yeah. Again, I'm all a rookie. I don't, I don't know any of this stuff. I'm just flapping the stuff that I've been researching for, you know, a couple of years and then heavily for a month or so. So I don't, I don't know, but that's just what I think in my head.

The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
The Moneyball approach (Interview)

Yeah, I think it's, there's a lot of ways to get capital. And it doesn't hurt, like, I mean, I probably have, I mean, I've got the GitHub, you know, founders, other people in my phone. I mean, I could text them, but I'm like, I don't need to.

The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
The Moneyball approach (Interview)

Yeah, I think it's, there's a lot of ways to get capital. And it doesn't hurt, like, I mean, I probably have, I mean, I've got the GitHub, you know, founders, other people in my phone. I mean, I could text them, but I'm like, I don't need to.

The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
The Moneyball approach (Interview)

I don't know. And even just for the reason that the, again, I don't want to keep going back to the other guy, but I just, it's fresh in my brain. Cause I just listened to it and it was like, yes, I like what you're doing. I'm headed to the ER cause my neck hurts, but like, cause I've been nodding my head, you know, profusely, but I'm like, I like this again. Exactly. Pop another hernia.

The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
The Moneyball approach (Interview)

I don't know. And even just for the reason that the, again, I don't want to keep going back to the other guy, but I just, it's fresh in my brain. Cause I just listened to it and it was like, yes, I like what you're doing. I'm headed to the ER cause my neck hurts, but like, cause I've been nodding my head, you know, profusely, but I'm like, I like this again. Exactly. Pop another hernia.

The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
The Moneyball approach (Interview)

But I'm like, I like that idea of like not running like a fund because a fund has to receive the capital and then deploy the capital. And so you're kind of under constraints because you've got to deploy the capital in a certain amount of time. But that means you're going to maybe have to deploy the capital into a deal that you're like not super excited about because it's like, well, it's time.

The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
The Moneyball approach (Interview)

But I'm like, I like that idea of like not running like a fund because a fund has to receive the capital and then deploy the capital. And so you're kind of under constraints because you've got to deploy the capital in a certain amount of time. But that means you're going to maybe have to deploy the capital into a deal that you're like not super excited about because it's like, well, it's time.

The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
The Moneyball approach (Interview)

Otherwise, you know, the fund is going to run out, et cetera. Whereas, you know, this model is like, look, we get people to commit, but then they don't have to give their capital up until the deal is actually here. And we know it's a really good deal because we have just been, you know, vetting them profusely.

The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
The Moneyball approach (Interview)

Otherwise, you know, the fund is going to run out, et cetera. Whereas, you know, this model is like, look, we get people to commit, but then they don't have to give their capital up until the deal is actually here. And we know it's a really good deal because we have just been, you know, vetting them profusely.

The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
The Moneyball approach (Interview)

And so this is like, yes, this is, you know, their range was 500,000 to 2 million EBITDA. They're going to do X multiple and they're going to, again, shard their investors, shard their individual personal guarantees. And I'm like, that's just a really cool model. If you can make it work, it probably takes a lot more smarts than I currently have, but I think that's cool.

The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
The Moneyball approach (Interview)

And so this is like, yes, this is, you know, their range was 500,000 to 2 million EBITDA. They're going to do X multiple and they're going to, again, shard their investors, shard their individual personal guarantees. And I'm like, that's just a really cool model. If you can make it work, it probably takes a lot more smarts than I currently have, but I think that's cool.

The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
The Moneyball approach (Interview)

I like that idea of like, yeah, that, that process.

The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
The Moneyball approach (Interview)

I like that idea of like, yeah, that, that process.

The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
The Moneyball approach (Interview)

Yes. That I'm, I'll be, I'll be super interested in. And that's even why, like the first thing I did is I reached out to Adam cause I, not even about investing, but just cause I was like, he's in podcasting, you know, and everybody knows you guys are killing it. So, you know, I was like, well, Hey Adam, like, no, I'm just kidding. Just killing it, crushing it.

The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
The Moneyball approach (Interview)

Yes. That I'm, I'll be, I'll be super interested in. And that's even why, like the first thing I did is I reached out to Adam cause I, not even about investing, but just cause I was like, he's in podcasting, you know, and everybody knows you guys are killing it. So, you know, I was like, well, Hey Adam, like, no, I'm just kidding. Just killing it, crushing it.

The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
The Moneyball approach (Interview)

Then I was like, again, you know, podcasting, you know, this kind of stuff. Cause I'm like, he told you he was going to go to zero. You called him and he's like, this thing's going to zero. Here's what happened though. That was the first five minutes. And then by the end, he's like, well, how do I get in on this? You know, not really, not really, but kind of.

The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
The Moneyball approach (Interview)

Then I was like, again, you know, podcasting, you know, this kind of stuff. Cause I'm like, he told you he was going to go to zero. You called him and he's like, this thing's going to zero. Here's what happened though. That was the first five minutes. And then by the end, he's like, well, how do I get in on this? You know, not really, not really, but kind of.