John Nunemaker

and like get to where we can start moving more quickly. And then, you know, next year probably be like, okay, here's some new features and things like that. And so as far as like what we have actually picked out to work on and stuff, we've definitely got some ideas. I wouldn't say we've like said, this is what we're going to do first. The goal is not all in.

and like get to where we can start moving more quickly. And then, you know, next year probably be like, okay, here's some new features and things like that. And so as far as like what we have actually picked out to work on and stuff, we've definitely got some ideas. I wouldn't say we've like said, this is what we're going to do first. The goal is not all in.

The goal is not like, I'm just not that again, I always have like two or three things. So my goals never be all in my goals always, which has always felt wrong because everyone's always like, you got to focus on one thing. And if you're doing two things, you're stupid, you know? And I'm like, I can work at 110% if I do 80% on this and 30% on another, but I can't work at 110% on one thing.

The goal is not like, I'm just not that again, I always have like two or three things. So my goals never be all in my goals always, which has always felt wrong because everyone's always like, you got to focus on one thing. And if you're doing two things, you're stupid, you know? And I'm like, I can work at 110% if I do 80% on this and 30% on another, but I can't work at 110% on one thing.

I just can't do it. It's boring. I just, I get, you get locked up once in a while on an issue and you, you know, your brain's got to process that in the background. Sometimes there's just no way past it. And so then I can just move on to another thing and it's like my brain, let's go. And then it can solve that other thing while I'm doing something else.

I just can't do it. It's boring. I just, I get, you get locked up once in a while on an issue and you, you know, your brain's got to process that in the background. Sometimes there's just no way past it. And so then I can just move on to another thing and it's like my brain, let's go. And then it can solve that other thing while I'm doing something else.

It's not full multitasking, but it kind of, I find it, it's helpful for me. I'm able to kind of stay more engaged in things for a longer period of time because there's more things to keep my brain busy. So, so it's not an all in thing. So Garrett will be a couple of weeks on box out a couple of weeks on fireside.

It's not full multitasking, but it kind of, I find it, it's helpful for me. I'm able to kind of stay more engaged in things for a longer period of time because there's more things to keep my brain busy. So, so it's not an all in thing. So Garrett will be a couple of weeks on box out a couple of weeks on fireside.

I'll be, you know, like my hours that I've, you know, worked with my partners that they're okay with me doing on box out every week. And then I'll, the rest will put towards, you know, fireside and flipper and stuff like that. And then the goal is definitely to grow it. Like I would say conservatively, um, You know, like I've never worked on a SaaS that hasn't grown at like 20% consistently.

I'll be, you know, like my hours that I've, you know, worked with my partners that they're okay with me doing on box out every week. And then I'll, the rest will put towards, you know, fireside and flipper and stuff like that. And then the goal is definitely to grow it. Like I would say conservatively, um, You know, like I've never worked on a SaaS that hasn't grown at like 20% consistently.

And so I'm like, you know, maybe Fireside's the first where I can't do that because there's just so many people in the space. I have no idea. We'll find out. But in my head, I think 5% is totally reasonable. And, you know, at that rate, I've done the math based on, you know, the capital we started with and we financed a lot of it. Like based on those two things, like I think I can have...

And so I'm like, you know, maybe Fireside's the first where I can't do that because there's just so many people in the space. I have no idea. We'll find out. But in my head, I think 5% is totally reasonable. And, you know, at that rate, I've done the math based on, you know, the capital we started with and we financed a lot of it. Like based on those two things, like I think I can have...

Even at 0%, you know, we could pay off the loan in, you know, five years. At, you know, 15, let's say 5% growth. At 5% growth, we could pay off the loan in like four years. At 10%, it's like the end of year three, you know, whereas maybe it was the middle of year four at like 15%. It's like three years and it's paid off, if we want to. Again, from free cash flow.

Even at 0%, you know, we could pay off the loan in, you know, five years. At, you know, 15, let's say 5% growth. At 5% growth, we could pay off the loan in like four years. At 10%, it's like the end of year three, you know, whereas maybe it was the middle of year four at like 15%. It's like three years and it's paid off, if we want to. Again, from free cash flow.

And that's with taking money out of the business to pay ourselves some money as well. So that's like, if we can just grow a little bit and take a little bit of... So let's say, whatever, we have... You have $100,000 in free cash flow. You do some amount each for some salary to work on it, and then you take out some more. It has more than that, but let's just say it's that.

And that's with taking money out of the business to pay ourselves some money as well. So that's like, if we can just grow a little bit and take a little bit of... So let's say, whatever, we have... You have $100,000 in free cash flow. You do some amount each for some salary to work on it, and then you take out some more. It has more than that, but let's just say it's that.

It's easy to do some math and say, okay, we're going to take 50% out for the people working on it, and the other 50% will go towards... dividends and paying off like the loan early. So that's kind of like how we look at it. We're like, look, we don't have to be full time all in. We don't have to beat Transistor, Buzzsprout, any of the other, you know, whatever.

It's easy to do some math and say, okay, we're going to take 50% out for the people working on it, and the other 50% will go towards... dividends and paying off like the loan early. So that's kind of like how we look at it. We're like, look, we don't have to be full time all in. We don't have to beat Transistor, Buzzsprout, any of the other, you know, whatever.

There's a million out there that do this kind of stuff. All we got to do is like do the things we know how to do on every SaaS we've ever worked on. And the likelihood of us growing is good. Perhaps that's naive. Perhaps that's just like 20 years of experience and it will be accurate and it's not naive. I don't know on that.

There's a million out there that do this kind of stuff. All we got to do is like do the things we know how to do on every SaaS we've ever worked on. And the likelihood of us growing is good. Perhaps that's naive. Perhaps that's just like 20 years of experience and it will be accurate and it's not naive. I don't know on that.